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#680
luthervol said:
Not in the least, but feel free to keep struggling.
Maybe go back and read through the thread again, if it's really that important to you.
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I quoted the pertinent posts. I'm not struggling at all, and I didn't ask the initial question looking for contradictions. I asked because you were making a crap point. You just seem to have supplied the contradiction on your own.

In a discussion about manufacturing workers, as compared to management and college educated jobs, you poo-pooed the meat heads in high school that made fun of the kids that cared about education and would go on to be educated. You then correlated "education" to intelligence.

I basically agreed, but cautioned that I believe you are too narrowly defining "education" when correlating with intelligence. You claimed that you had not, and you widened the definition from the obviously narrow definition you'd been using--to that of trade schools, apprenticeships, ***on the job training***, etc...

In other words, you claimed a definition "college or workers" that is the exact opposite of the distinction you'd previously made, and the distinction under discussion.

Then, when I quoted/showed your obviously narrow definition, you switched back to that narrow definition, as though you hadn't denied having used it, and widening it one post earlier.

It's surreal, actually.

The correlation between education and intelligence is probably strongly correlated to people who value learning and continue learning, by whatever means they learn. College obviously will consist of a higher % of people who value learning than the % of people who value and continue learning in the general population. So, it makes sense that there will be a soft correlation to intelligence in University.

In other words, the correlation to intelligence will be with the type of person and not the mode/type of learning.

So, the question becomes, why would you make an argument, get called on it, deny making the argument, get called on it, transition back to your original argument, and expect people not to ask you, "WTH?"
 
#682
#682
utvolpj said:
*Insert zeps money printer meme*
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1 place that you have Trump dead to rights. He has let them spend trillions. What was the alternative though? When BOTH sides of Congress, the body that actually SPENDS money, are calling for multi trillion dollar stimulus ...in the middle of a "novel" "deadly" virus foisted upon him by Dems and their media.. what was he to do???

What was the alternative that you would have done? Refused to sign it? Really?

Nobody here likes Trumps personality. He is brash, etc etc. Nobody here likes trillions in debt. ...but I think if you are gonna hammer somebody about making a wrong decision, shouldn't you have a better one to take its place? Or at least be able to point to someone who would have made a "better" decision? If not...how was he wrong???

The only way he was wrong about the tariff BS is if he isnt reelected and a new Dem rolls over for the Chinese. Not sure that even makes him wrong actually...just ineffective. Trump has done a GREAT JOB at staying focused on who is ACTUALLY the biggest threat to the western world and our way of life....CHINA...and IRAN with nukes. Thankfully this virus has shown most of EUROPE that China is a snake and they are all rethinking their stances on the Chinese.

It seems phony to always rail against Trump about spending money rather than Congress who actually SPENDS our money. Where is all the outrage about the stimulus??? It was enough to give EVERY man woman and child $6k....yet only about 1/6th of that went to us taxpayers at best....84% wasted MINIMUM... I bet it turns out that 90% of that 3T never sees taxpayers hands...THAT is something to post about EVERY DAY ..

You have 2 kids right?? What would $24k free and clear have done for your family? I know what I could do with 24k.

Why aren't you pissed about that? Never hear a word about it
 
#685
#685
utvolpj said:
It's ironic you liked this party @luthervol since you're no different. Just sub reality star with senile, lifelong bureaucrat
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I'm vastly different. I would never in my life vote for a candidate as horrendously despicable as Trump.
Substituting Trump with Biden in your analogy is like substituting arsenic with salt.
It completely changes your whole point, rather or not you realize it.
 
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#686
luthervol said:
I'm vastly different. I would never in my life vote for a candidate as horrendously despicable as Trump.
Substituting Trump with Biden in your analogy is like substituting arsenic with salt.
It completely changes your whole point, rather or not you realize it.
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As long as you are talking about sodium hydroxide, I agree.
 
#687
#687
luthervol said:
I'm vastly different. I would never in my life vote for a candidate as horrendously despicable as Trump.
Substituting Trump with Biden in your analogy is like substituting arsenic with salt.
It completely changes your whole point, rather or not you realize it.
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Bad analogy... you are only switching out Bleach for Draino
 
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#690
Orange_Crush said:
I quoted the pertinent posts. I'm not struggling at all, and I didn't ask the initial question looking for contradictions. I asked because you were making a crap point. You just seem to have supplied the contradiction on your own.

In a discussion about manufacturing workers, as compared to management and college educated jobs, you poo-pooed the meat heads in high school that made fun of the kids that cared about education and would go on to be educated. You then correlated "education" to intelligence.

I basically agreed, but cautioned that I believe you are too narrowly defining "education" when correlating with intelligence. You claimed that you had not, and you widened the definition from the obviously narrow definition you'd been using--to that of trade schools, apprenticeships, ***on the job training***, etc...

In other words, you claimed a definition "college or workers" that is the exact opposite of the distinction you'd previously made, and the distinction under discussion.

Then, when I quoted/showed your obviously narrow definition, you switched back to that narrow definition, as though you hadn't denied having used it, and widening it one post earlier.

It's surreal, actually.

The correlation between education and intelligence is probably strongly correlated to people who value learning and continue learning, by whatever means they learn. College obviously will consist of a higher % of people who value learning than the % of people who value and continue learning in the general population. So, it makes sense that there will be a soft correlation to intelligence in University.

In other words, the correlation to intelligence will be with the type of person and not the mode/type of learning.

So, the question becomes, why would you make an argument, get called on it, deny making the argument, get called on it, transition back to your original argument, and expect people not to ask you, "WTH?"
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So it really was that important to you.
And you basically just supported the point I made which was...
Education makes one more educated. There is no direct correlation between education and intelligence, but there is a strong positive correlation.
 
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#693
0nelilreb said:
Bad analogy... you are only switching out Bleach for Draino
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Not in my mind. (which is ultimately all that matters)
From day one of this catastrophe I have viewed Trump as by far and away the most horrendously despicable human to ever hold the office - with no close second.
That belief has only been confirmed over the past 3.5 years.
Biden is immensely more preferable.
 
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#695
luthervol said:
I'm vastly different. I would never in my life vote for a candidate as horrendously despicable as Trump.
Substituting Trump with Biden in your analogy is like substituting arsenic with salt.
It completely changes your whole point, rather or not you realize it.
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Did you vote for Hillary? Then you just did.
 
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#696
luthervol said:
I'm vastly different. I would never in my life vote for a candidate as horrendously despicable as Trump.
Substituting Trump with Biden in your analogy is like substituting arsenic with salt.
It completely changes your whole point, rather or not you realize it.
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You mean a guy who's been in politics for 4 decades and fixed nothing? A guy who is every bit the creeper on vulnerable girls as trump? A guy who is literally losing his mind in front of you?

However you want to justify your vote
 
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#700
utvolpj said:
You mean a guy who's been in politics for 4 decades and fixed nothing? A guy who is every bit the creeper on vulnerable girls as trump? A guy who is literally losing his mind in front of you?

However you want to justify your vote
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Yea. They are in no way comparable.
 
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