Here it is. Non existent antifa takes over Seattle neighborhood. No police presence

Considering that Lee is a part of Richmond and southern heritage, I fail to see an equivalency. If a particular city or region wants to have or not have these memorials then it is up to them. Just surprised Lenin would warrant a place.

I just find it disingenuous to criticize people that want a statue taken down because they don't agree with the politics, while wanting a statue to be taken down because you disagree with the politics.
 
How are they selling tickets for seats that don’t exist?


I am pretty sure it is just a matter of people who arent insane....who have watched our cities burn and criminals run wild for a couple weeks showing their support for Trump. I read this from the guy in Trumps campaign that manages the events in 1 of the twitter threads that I went down from here .. sorry DC, I dont use social media so I cant get back to it ....but the guy who runs the rallies said it was the most tickets sold by 10x....ever....
 
I'm no fan of Lenin or any other communist, but if you can't see the cognitive dissonance of being upset about a statue of Lenin, while criticizing others for being upset about a statue of a guy who went to war against the US, I can't argue with you.

One was an American general with a famous revolutionary war hero for a father and George Washington’s most famous eulogist that chose to protect his state of Virginia , the other was a tyrannical dictator that killed his on citizens for fun or when he wanted to flex . Yeah you are probably right . No use in arguing with you .
 
I am pretty sure it is just a matter of people who arent insane....who have watched our cities burn and criminals run wild for a couple weeks showing their support for Trump. I read this from the guy in Trumps campaign that manages the events in 1 of the twitter threads that I went down from here .. sorry DC, I dont use social media so I cant get back to it ....but the guy who runs the rallies said it was the most tickets sold by 10x....ever....

Thanks, interesting.
 
I am pretty sure it is just a matter of people who arent insane....who have watched our cities burn and criminals run wild for a couple weeks showing their support for Trump. I read this from the guy in Trumps campaign that manages the events in 1 of the twitter threads that I went down from here .. sorry DC, I dont use social media so I cant get back to it ....but the guy who runs the rallies said it was the most tickets sold by 10x....ever....

 
One was an American general with a famous revolutionary war hero for a father and George Washington’s most famous eulogist that chose to protect his state of Virginia , the other was a tyrannical dictator that killed his on citizens for fun or when he wanted to flex . Yeah you are probably right . No use in arguing with you .

No slave-owner killed his slaves or flexed on them.
 
Thanks Oburst... I dont even Bookface. No tweeting, just not my thing. My kids dont either. My wife has a facebook page, but its purpose is to share pics etc with family, fellowship with Pastor and church, and her real estate.

I think social media is 1 of the worst inventions of my lifetime, probably THE worst. It's right up there with styrofoam....will prove to be 1 of the worst inventions in history of mankind.

I understand that my opinion is not a popular one. That is OK, lol..

Edit..hahaha...blind leading the blind. Thanks for your help man... I am lost on that crap. Either way, go Trump! Go USA
 
No slave-owner killed his slaves or flexed on them.
No snide sarcasm necessary.

If you think the father of a regime that murdered or intentionally starved 10-60 million+ people is of the same moral culpability as a Confederate general, just say so. No need to beat around the bush with your point.
 
Thanks Oburst... I dont even Bookface. No tweeting, just not my thing. My kids dont either. My wife has a facebook page, but its purpose is to share pics etc with family, fellowship with Pastor and church, and her real estate.

I think social media is 1 of the worst inventions of my lifetime, probably THE worst. It's right up there with styrofoam....will prove to be 1 of the worst inventions in history of mankind.

I understand that my opinion is not a popular one. That is OK, lol..

Edit..hahaha...blind leading the blind. Thanks for your help man... I am lost on that crap. Either way, go Trump! Go USA

I obviously do not know how to read a tweet sequence....lol. My Commodore 64 locks up occasionally.
 
Goal post moved .. we were talking about LEE vs Lenin

I agree with you on several things from what I've seen in the limited time I've been posting. But I cant on this. Supporting communism and supporting slavery aren't that different. If you want to keep statues of one that's fine, but both resulted in a lot of deaths.
 
I’m sure that Trump will have the full 20k capacity packing the arena in Tulsa, but these are free tickets and anyone can request two. Essentially, the event will just allow the first 20k people in line to be part of the rally. There might be meaning behind 800k expressing interest in attending, but overall it’s just a figure that doesn’t represent much.
 
No snide sarcasm necessary.

If you think the father of a regime that murdered or intentionally starved 10-60 million+ people is of the same moral culpability as a Confederate general, just say so. No need to beat around the bush with your point.

I don't, but both supported institutions that were antithetical to American ideals. You can support that all you want.
 
I agree with you on several things from what I've seen in the limited time I've been posting. But I cant on this. Supporting communism and supporting slavery aren't that different. If you want to keep statues of one that's fine, but both resulted in a lot of deaths.

I honestly don’t care , I personal think monuments should be moved to the national battlefields and left alone for history’s sake . We learn as much what not to do from history as much as we learn what to do going forward as a correction . Battlefields ( to ) me are sacred , because men willingly gave up their lives for what they believed in at the time , right or wrong . I do find it interesting ( flipping the argument around ) that a statue of Lenin seems safe anywhere on American soil , considering all the millions of lives that socialism/ communism have cost the people crushed under those systems .
 
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I’m sure that Trump will have the full 20k capacity packing the arena in Tulsa, but these are free tickets and anyone can request two. Essentially, the event will just allow the first 20k people in line to be part of the rally. There might be meaning behind 800k expressing interest in attending, but overall it’s just a figure that doesn’t represent much.

Good point. But the significance is knowing their names and contact info for organization, donations, voter registering and networking.
 
Thanks Oburst... I dont even Bookface. No tweeting, just not my thing. My kids dont either. My wife has a facebook page, but its purpose is to share pics etc with family, fellowship with Pastor and church, and her real estate.

I think social media is 1 of the worst inventions of my lifetime, probably THE worst. It's right up there with styrofoam....will prove to be 1 of the worst inventions in history of mankind.

I understand that my opinion is not a popular one. That is OK, lol..

Edit..hahaha...blind leading the blind. Thanks for your help man... I am lost on that crap. Either way, go Trump! Go USA
I pretty much regret getting on Facebook at this point. No way in hell I ever join Twitter.
 
I honestly don’t care , I personal think monuments should be moved to the national battlefields and left alone for history’s sake . We learn as what not to do from history as much as we learn what to do going forward as a correction . Battlefields to me are sacred because men willing gave up their lives for what they believed in at the time , right or wrong . I do find it interesting ( flipping the argument around ) that a statue of Lenin seems safe anywhere on American soil considering all the millions of lives that socialism/ communism have cost the people crushed under those systems .

We agree for the most part. However, I doubt a statue of Lenin is going to make it very far in my hometown.
 
Thanks Oburst... I dont even Bookface. No tweeting, just not my thing. My kids dont either. My wife has a facebook page, but its purpose is to share pics etc with family, fellowship with Pastor and church, and her real estate.

I think social media is 1 of the worst inventions of my lifetime, probably THE worst. It's right up there with styrofoam....will prove to be 1 of the worst inventions in history of mankind.

I understand that my opinion is not a popular one. That is OK, lol..

Edit..hahaha...blind leading the blind. Thanks for your help man... I am lost on that crap. Either way, go Trump! Go USA

You and I should seriously go fishing. You ever make it down this way, I'll give you my email. Trip is on me. I have a good friend who is a charter captain that will put us on top of the fish.

You buy the beer.

Go Vols.
 
We agree for the most part. However, I doubt a statue of Lenin is going to make it very far in my hometown.

I doubt many here would even care or know who he was until it hit the news . The Navy might not like it but it wouldnt matter much to the rest of the population I’d bet .
 
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