Here it is. Non existent antifa takes over Seattle neighborhood. No police presence

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n_huffhines said:
First of all, it says HIS STORE IS NOT IN CHAZ! LOL

But either way, how is this any different from what normally happens in the inner city? You found one data point. You might see this kind of headline on any weekend in any given metropolis in the country.
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hUTch2002 said:
On any random weekend in any city you’re going to have rioters demand the release of a guy that broke into a store and was detained by the owner while the police won’t come? Seriously, WTF man? Just admit that maybe, just maybe, this isn’t as rosy a situation as everyone is trying to make it seem.
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Hutch, that’s an incomplete and misleading account of what happened.



“Nobody showed up”: 911 calls bring no response after break in at auto shop near Capitol Hill protest zone

Huff, your sister is right on all points, but I have to disagree with the last comment about this being normal.

Seattle Fire Chief Harold Scoggins stopped by the business late Monday morning to speak with the McDermott. He said they need clearance from SPD to respond inside the CHAZ/ CHOP zone, but should’ve been able to respond to Car Trader, which is outside the zone. He said the fire department is looking into why no one responded.


KIRO7’s Deedee Sun asked the Seattle Police Department about why they never responded.

They replied in an email: “Seattle Police did respond to the incident last night and documented the incident on a report. The case number is #2020-188030. Due to limited staffing, we are unable to provide you with a redacted copy of the narrative.”

The business owner said he never spoke with or saw an officer. Multiple others at the scene said they never saw SPD either.
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landscapingvol said:
That statue needs to go, it probably triggered someone and it led to violence. Amirite?
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I'm torn.

Did the LARP's reach the part of Marxist history curriculum Yuri Bezmenov told us about, 'All the useful idiots were put against the wall after the socialists seized power', before the universities sent them home due to China-Flu?

Maybe we should just let it keep playing out? No. That's wrong. Bless their little usefull idiot LARP'n hearts. Its time to topple Lenin and end their delusion before it goes too far. It's our duty to protect them.

Dey jus don't no no bettah....
 
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Seattle council bans police use of chokeholds and crowd control weapons

The Seattle City Council voted unanimously to ban police from using chokeholds, tear gas, pepper spray and several other crowd control devices after officers repeatedly used them on mostly peaceful demonstrators protesting racism and police brutality. The council also adopted legislation requiring officers to display badge numbers.

The 9-0 vote Monday came amid frustration with the Seattle Police Department, which used tear gas to disperse protesters in the city’s densest neighborhood, Capitol Hill, just days after Mayor Jenny Durkan and Police Chief Carmen Best promised not to.


The Seattle Office of Police Accountability previously said it is reviewing and processing thousands of complaints regarding police misconduct during the George Floyd protests in Seattle. It released a list of 10 incidents it received the most complaints about, including the use of pepper spray on peaceful protesters, the use of flashbangs, and covering badge numbers.

Seattle Mayor Jenny Durkan and Police Chief Carmen Best previously said several policy changes are in the works to hold police accountable.
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Confusion, anger in Seattle Police Dept. after East Precinct exit

Nearly two weeks later, not only has no one claimed responsibility for ordering officers to stay away, but it’s unclear whether there was an order at all. According to two police sources in the East Precinct, they never received any written command to not come to work on Capitol Hill. Instead, they were told by text or phone call from colleagues to head instead to the West Precinct on the north end of downtown Seattle — a sort of organic game of telephone.

“I'm not sure if someone said something to somebody or someone got a call from somebody. We're still trying to track down exactly how it got to be that people were actually leaving the facility,” Seattle Police Chief Carmen Best said in an interview this week. Best repeated that it was not her decision to leave the precinct, and that she wants officers to move back into the building.


Best initially blamed “the city” for the decision to abandon the precinct. She also was forced to walk back comments about businesses being extorted by protesters within the zone. And there have been some semantic disagreements about law enforcement presence in the area.
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One killed, another injured during shooting inside Seattle’s cop-free zone

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One person was killed and another injured when a shooting erupted in Seattle’s autonomous zone early Saturday, and police are now inside the “no-cop” zone investigating, according to reports.

Seattle police remained Saturday afternoon in the so-called Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone, gathering spent shell casings and assembled in riot gear at the border, Newsweek reported.

There were conflicting reports on whether police and fire department were allowed into the zone, with some reports saying that police encountered hostile crowds after a large group assembled on the edge of the protest zone to secure the victim. But both victims had been driven by private vehicles to a local hospital, according to a blog post.

Videos recorded inside CHAZ showed volunteers scrambling to help the victims.

Two gunshot victims were treated at Harborview Medical Center, spokeswoman Susan Gregg told the Seattle Times.

One died, she said, and the other was in critical condition in the Intensive Care Unit.

https://nypost.com/2020/06/20/one-killed-two-injured-during-shooting-inside-seattles-cop-free-zone/
 
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BartW said:
Or just don't assault peaceful protesters. Notice how there hasn't been any "rioting" since the police left?
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Yes.

Just allow peaceful protestors to unlawfully occupy city blocks, keep law enforcement out, vandalizing said property, and they won't riot.

It's not like tthere could be a shooting and someone might get killed.
 
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BartW said:
Or just don't assault peaceful protesters. Notice how there hasn't been any "rioting" since the police left?
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I for one have enjoyed watching this whole social experiment being played out . It’s gone (for the most part) how I expected it to so far . When I was young I thought I knew exactly what I wanted also and had every reason to believe I could handle what went along with what I thought was my “reasonable request “ so my grandfather gave me what I demanded , a big bite off of a Days Work Tobacco plug . 2 days later I realized that getting what you demand and think you’re ready for isn’t all it’s cracked up to be .
 
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BartW said:
Or just don't assault peaceful protesters. Notice how there hasn't been any "rioting" since the police left?
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Gee, so the Antifastan idiots finally had the earth shattering epiphany that destroying where you live isn’t a very bright idea. Who’d have thunk it...
 
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BartW said:
Or just don't assault peaceful protesters. Notice how there hasn't been any "rioting" since the police left?
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I honestly don't even know what to say to this. So no one will ever riot again or resist arrest ever again? Are criminals on the honor system now? Brilliant stuff.

Also, peaceful protesting is not a free pass to do whatever you want without intervention from the police. You and that article are conflating peaceful with legal.
 
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MemphisVol77 said:
Yes.

Just allow peaceful protestors to unlawfully occupy city blocks, keep law enforcement out, vandalizing said property, and they won't riot.

It's not like tthere could be a shooting and someone might get killed.
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Spoken like someone who hasn’t a clue what’s going on here. Par for the thread.

It’s not a cop-free zone. Police have come and gone this entire time. Sometimes they get heckled but that's about it.

I put riot in quotation marks in the previous post for a reason. What occurred on Capitol Hill for well over a week after the George Floyd murder was separate from the rioting/looting that occurred in the immediate aftermath 24-48 hours after the Floyd murder. Not that anybody had forgotten about Floyd, but the Capitol Hill protests blew up in response to SPD’s actions.

SPD has a long history of excessive force and zero accountability. They’ve been gassing peaceful protesters going back to the 90s. In 2011 Seattle was ordered to reform by DOJ after the police murder of John T. Williams, among several incidents. There is no love lost for SPD; there has been distrust for a long time. Recent events have brought all this back up again, and clearly SPD hasn't made the necessary changes.

My point is, there are different groups with different demographics and motivations here. The rioters/looters (immediate aftermath of Floyd killing) are different from the Seattleites that were marching against police violence, who are different from the larpers that decided to occupy CHAZ after the police vacated.
 
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BartW said:
Spoken like someone who hasn’t a clue what’s going on here. Par for the thread.

It’s not a cop-free zone. Police have come and gone this entire time. Sometimes they get heckled but that's about it.

I put riot in quotation marks in the previous post for a reason. What occurred on Capitol Hill for well over a week after the George Floyd murder was separate from the rioting/looting that occurred in the immediate aftermath 24-48 hours after the Floyd murder. Not that anybody had forgotten about Floyd, but the Capitol Hill protests blew up in response to SPD’s actions.

SPD has a long history of excessive force and zero accountability. They’ve been gassing peaceful protesters going back to the 90s. In 2011 Seattle was ordered to reform by DOJ after the police murder of John T. Williams, among several incidents. There is no love lost for SPD; there has been distrust for a long time. Recent events have brought all this back up again, and clearly SPD hasn't made the necessary changes.

My point is, there are different groups with different demographics and motivations here. The rioters/looters (immediate aftermath of Floyd killing) are different from the Seattleites that were marching against police violence, who are different from the larpers that decided to occupy CHAZ after the police vacated.
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The report is that the police weren't allowed into the scene of the shooting of two victims, one who died.

How's that square with what you have posted above?

Seattle police union chief calls for 'leadership' after fatal shooting in CHOP zone

"On June 20th, at approximately 2:30 AM, East Precinct officers responded to a report of shots fired in Cal Anderson Park," a statement on the blotter said.

"This is inside the area referred to as the Capitol Hill Organized Protest (CHOP). Officers attempted to locate a shooting victim but were met by a violent crowd that prevented officers safe access to the victims. Officers were later informed that the victims, both males, had been transported to Harborview Medical Center by CHOP medics.

"Officers responded to Harborview and were informed that one of the victims, a 19-year-old male, had died from injuries. The other victim, also a male, unknown age, remains in the hospital with life-threatening injuries."
 
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Do we know the shooting motivation yet or did the two victims just disagree with the reallocation of their stuff by the peaceful protestors?
 
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MemphisVol77 said:
Hasn't Lenin's statue stayed standing?

If CHAZ's deep state is worth a damn he'll be a Martyr for their new nation with his own statue by the time his name is released.
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Supposedly it’s on private property but that hasn’t been a deterrent to tearing down anything else.
 
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BartW said:
Spoken like someone who hasn’t a clue what’s going on here. Par for the thread.

It’s not a cop-free zone. Police have come and gone this entire time. Sometimes they get heckled but that's about it.

I put riot in quotation marks in the previous post for a reason. What occurred on Capitol Hill for well over a week after the George Floyd murder was separate from the rioting/looting that occurred in the immediate aftermath 24-48 hours after the Floyd murder. Not that anybody had forgotten about Floyd, but the Capitol Hill protests blew up in response to SPD’s actions.

SPD has a long history of excessive force and zero accountability. They’ve been gassing peaceful protesters going back to the 90s. In 2011 Seattle was ordered to reform by DOJ after the police murder of John T. Williams, among several incidents. There is no love lost for SPD; there has been distrust for a long time. Recent events have brought all this back up again, and clearly SPD hasn't made the necessary changes.

My point is, there are different groups with different demographics and motivations here. The rioters/looters (immediate aftermath of Floyd killing) are different from the Seattleites that were marching against police violence, who are different from the larpers that decided to occupy CHAZ after the police vacated.
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Are you there?
 
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