Here's what Butch can't say

#26
#26
Solid post OP.

You can tell when CBJ is on the sideline that he has to bite his tongue. Probably bleeding by the end of the games. He will not throw a kid under the bus.
 
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CBJ was clear in his postgame evaluations that player performance & coaching were UNACCEPTABLE in the Missouri debacle. His expression on the sideline showed early on that things weren't going well. I imagine practice, coaches' meetings & every facet of the Vol football program are being ramped up this week. I expect a complete turn-around against Auburn. GBO
 
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Ok but he has talent to work with. Our players had offers from multiple BCS schools including Cincinnati. It will get better with his recruits as any new head coach but don't act like we are damn MAC school.
 
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LibertyVolance said:
Butch cannot tell the honest, brutal truth during weekly press conferences or any other time. He is counting on this current roster to sell new recruits on UT's positives and to steer through this particularly tough time.

It's a similar predicament that Coach Majors faced when taking the reins from a squad devoid of sec talent after the Battle tenure. New coaches can do their best to coach up the players they adopt on their arrival, but they have to work with what they have until their own recruiting begins to change the landscape.

No coach or set of coaches would come in and berate the players he is now responsible for inspiring. The very best Butch can do now is to hopefully encourage and inspire them to achieve beyond their ability. I understand what he's striving to do and it isn't easy I'd bet you.
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Good post, but I seem to remember..... a coach?..... who did that?.....Now what was his name....????

Well I'm stumped??? :blink:


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VAVolsFan2009 said:
Josh Smith is like many young receivers. He needs to see the ball all the way into his hands. Make the catch and then go for the extra yardage. But it is so tempting to sneak a peak!!!!!
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I remember a All-Pro receiver (Don't remember who, played for 49ers) making the statement that if a NFL receiver is dropping the ball it is because he is looking to where he is going to run instead of watching the ball between his hands. I believe Mr. Smith is having the same issue, as you pointed out.:thumbsup:
 
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1972 Grad said:
So, you're calling Butch a liar, and Dooley an honest man?
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Umm, no. I think he means to infer is that there is tact in the press conferences. It is the same kind of discretion that a husband shows by not disclosing to all to that can hear that his wife has a pie pan sized wart on her azz. The better part of valor and all that.
 
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VolDave53 said:
Umm, no. I think he means to infer is that there is tact in the press conferences. It is the same kind of discretion that a husband shows by not disclosing to all to that can hear that his wife has a pie pan sized wart on her azz. The better part of valor and all that.
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Pictures of the wart on wife's azz, or it never happened.
 
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VolFan4Life87 said:
That Josh Smith has brick hands, O-line is overrated, defense has low football IQ and/or is slow, etc.

OP is right, Jones looks like an idiot if he gets on TV and says "we're just not very good" which is what Dooley said many times IIRC. Jones is responsible for these players, so he has to get everything out of them that he can - which sadly may not be much.
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You are acting like Midfielder after Bray drilled his girlfriend... Did Josh Smith take your lady down to funky town or something?
 
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LibertyVolance said:
Butch cannot tell the honest, brutal truth during weekly press conferences or any other time. He is counting on this current roster to sell new recruits on UT's positives and to steer through this particularly tough time.

It's a similar predicament that Coach Majors faced when taking the reins from a squad devoid of sec talent after the Battle tenure. New coaches can do their best to coach up the players they adopt on their arrival, but they have to work with what they have until their own recruiting begins to change the landscape.

No coach or set of coaches would come in and berate the players he is now responsible for inspiring. The very best Butch can do now is to hopefully encourage and inspire them to achieve beyond their ability. I understand what he's striving to do and it isn't easy I'd bet you.
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I don't understand the mentality of some people on here. The product on the field this year is much better at the same point in time than it was last year, yet, many on here are ready to declare Coach Jones a bust. You cannot win consistently with what you don't have. As you pointed out, and as I remember with Majors, Jones will need at least three (3) recruiting classes to compete on a level with Alabama and the best teams in the country. I expect that starting next year we will begin winning on the road and we will continue to "upset" ranked teams; however, many of the issues that we are facing now will still be an issue. Lack of depth, too many freshmen on the field, consistency, overall talent and speed. I don't have any desire to berate the current juniors and seniors on this team. They have been through alot during their career. The fact that they are still swinging says alot about them. That being said, Tennessee has to have a major upgrade in talent. I believe that Coach Jones is upgrading even as I write this message (look at our freshmen); but, he needs years not days. Imagine this freshman class in two more years. I can't wait but I know that I am going to have to wait. Good Post!
 
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Witch Doctor say very clever post. Witch Doctor kinda feel Butch is showing good loyalty to some players by giving them a chance to prove themselves. Worley did good, Dobbs is the future, Worley can never begrudge we wasnt given a chance, Lane is better than Neil. Neil cant say he wasnt given a fair shake. Witch Doctor say it early but Witch Doctor already having "bro mance" feelings toward Jones...wonder if he likes zombies? haha
BNL
 
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LibertyVolance said:
Butch cannot tell the honest, brutal truth during weekly press conferences or any other time. He is counting on this current roster to sell new recruits on UT's positives and to steer through this particularly tough time.

It's a similar predicament that Coach Majors faced when taking the reins from a squad devoid of sec talent after the Battle tenure. New coaches can do their best to coach up the players they adopt on their arrival, but they have to work with what they have until their own recruiting begins to change the landscape.

No coach or set of coaches would come in and berate the players he is now responsible for inspiring. The very best Butch can do now is to hopefully encourage and inspire them to achieve beyond their ability. I understand what he's striving to do and it isn't easy I'd bet you.
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Post of the week!!! ,This hit the nail on the head. Dooley threw players under the bus, Butch wont do that. Honestly, did anyone think we would win 9 games this year? Just get us to a bowl game and sign our commited players, help is coming. Now I'm ranting...GBO
 
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bigorangekicksazz said:
Post of the week!!! ,This hit the nail on the head. Dooley threw players under the bus, Butch wont do that. Honestly, did anyone think we would win 9 games this year? Just get us to a bowl game and sign our commited players, help is coming. Now I'm ranting...GBO
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Exactly... the aim for the season was not to be 8-4... and the fact that that was in reach is a miracle... I can vividly remember everyone saying that 6-6 is a miracle. Now, it seems as if 5-7 is a disappointment.
All of this mixed with a #2 recruiting class and great improvement... I don't see any reason to question CBJ:salute:
 
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samiam9110 said:
This means The Ole Ball Coach, which is a great Stat Big Orange fans might be missing. Butch 1 - The OBC 0
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Thanks. I saw him play basketball , baseball, and football in high school at Science Hill. I don't think of him as the old ball coach.
 
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samiam9110 said:
This means The Ole Ball Coach, which is a great Stat Big Orange fans might be missing. Butch 1 - The OBC 0
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Not sure about everyone else, but I got very excited when I saw CBJ outsmart OBC when he tried to make us waste timeouts by not being in defensive formation late in the 4th...
Great coaching.
 
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VolFan4Life87 said:
That Josh Smith has brick hands, O-line is overrated, defense has low football IQ and/or is slow, etc.

OP is right, Jones looks like an idiot if he gets on TV and says "we're just not very good" which is what Dooley said many times IIRC. Jones is responsible for these players, so he has to get everything out of them that he can - which sadly may not be much.
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Didn't Zach Rogers have a lot of the same drop problems that Smith is having? Hopefully it is a confidence issue that he can work through because he gets open a lot.
 
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zreeves said:
i believe what dooley said was "jesus we're a bad team" after we lost to Kentucky with a WR playing QB
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When the reality was, he was a horrible coach and leader. He also said he "knew it was coming", etc etc. Like the UK loss was the point they had to get to for things to start looking up. I think losing that game made complete sense to him, which is exactly why he was a disaster at UT
 
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huskyvol said:
Didn't Zach Rogers have a lot of the same drop problems that Smith is having? Hopefully it is a confidence issue that he can work through because he gets open a lot.
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I hope so, but it seems like Smith has had more drops than Rogers did. Rogers really put it all together in his senior season; he only had one crucial drop last year that I can recall.
 
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