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#51
volgrl said:
Urr. Thanks! Ha! I get it. (sigh) Reading it written incorrectly on here so often makes me twitch. I should know better about being a jerk...it is usually the wrong action.
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No worries. You weren't being a jerk.
 
#53
#53
ReelfootVol said:
There is no loyalty to things such as Alma Marta or "Vol for Life" . That stuff just sounds good. Money talks and BS walks my friend , whether it be in football or preachers. The money is the bottom line.
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I didn't know Alma, GA had a Marta system????
 
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SamRebel35 said:
Funny how, two weeks after Graham leaves, we get the two biggest RB commits we have had in a decade. I was bummed when Graham left because I had the same opinion everybody else did in regards to his recruiting. I thought he was our home run recruiter. But it looks like (at least from results from commitments) that Gillespie is at the very least as good of a recruiter (I would say better). Who is the better field coach? That is still to be determined.
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This is true. In his two years, he didn't hit the RB homerun, but he was key in several other recruits. I hated to see him go, but he had his reasons, and I wish him well. Can we truly say one is better than the other at this time? I don't think we can say for a couple of years. I just moved on because Gillespie is our RB coach, and wanted to be at here.
 
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#56
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SamRebel35 said:
He did prove me wrong. I accepted it by saying that BB was a big haul. Were you looking for some sort of heart felt apology for my mis-speaking or something. And furthermore, that part of the post was not really a primary point. The point was that Jay Graham was here for two recruiting classes and got zero high ranked RB's. When he left, we immediately got two highly regarded RB's. In state or not is completely irrelevant imo.
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We got those two recruits because of Butch Jones, not Graham or Gillespie. Of course the recruits had to like the hire, but to give him all the credit for 2 top tier RBs after being on staff for 2 weeks is a bit much. Make no mistake, Butch is why we're pulling these recruits.
 
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SamRebel35 said:
Funny how, two weeks after Graham leaves, we get the two biggest RB commits we have had in a decade. I was bummed when Graham left because I had the same opinion everybody else did in regards to his recruiting. I thought he was our home run recruiter. But it looks like (at least from results from commitments) that Gillespie is at the very least as good of a recruiter (I would say better). Who is the better field coach? That is still to be determined.
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Yep, that guy Graham recruited at USCjr turned out to be a real dud. :unsure:
 
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KingtUT said:
Yep, that guy Graham recruited at USCjr turned out to be a real dud. :unsure:
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Is that relevant somehow? Last time I checked, we are the orange team with no big time running backs on the present roster. Not trying to diminish Grahams contributions in recruiting, but let's get real for a second.
 
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Pope John Vol VI said:
We got those two recruits because of Butch Jones, not Graham or Gillespie. Of course the recruits had to like the hire, but to give him all the credit for 2 top tier RBs after being on staff for 2 weeks is a bit much. Make no mistake, Butch is why we're pulling these recruits.
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I never said Gillespie should have the credit, but we got two huge commits at his coaching position very shortly after making the switch. Based on the commitment of those two players, I am going to go ahead and say that Gillespie has had a bigger impact at RB recruiting than Graham (even if not directly responsible for their recruitment).
 
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KingtUT said:
Yep, that guy Graham recruited at USCjr turned out to be a real dud. :unsure:
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Lattimore was going to USCe regardless and it made Graham's resume look good. I also think Hurd was going to UT with or without Graham. People was also praising Graham for our running game improving but I think Pittman had more to do with it than Graham.
 
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SamRebel35 said:
Funny how, two weeks after Graham leaves, we get the two biggest RB commits we have had in a decade. I was bummed when Graham left because I had the same opinion everybody else did in regards to his recruiting. I thought he was our home run recruiter. But it looks like (at least from results from commitments) that Gillespie is at the very least as good of a recruiter (I would say better). Who is the better field coach? That is still to be determined.
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My thought when accusations were flying around that Jones didn't try to hard to keep him that it had to do with Graham's failure to land one of the top RB targets. North was a big get but I am not sure who else Graham actually made a difference with.

From the 1000 mile vantage point... I wonder if part of Graham's "proof" that he belonged was to land an elite RB.
 
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tnvols72 said:
Lattimore was going to USCe regardless and it made Graham's resume look good. I also think Hurd was going to UT with or without Graham. People was also praising Graham for our running game improving but I think Pittman had more to do with it than Graham.
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I agree. Maturity on the o.line and Pittman are the main reasons our running game was better IMO. You are either a good rb or not IMO, only so much a rb coach can do.
 
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I remember Gillespie getting spiked by raynoch thompson... but that"s about it. I have many great memories from graham's time at UT. I just wish we had more vol alumni involved at UT.
 
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SamRebel35 said:
He did prove me wrong. I accepted it by saying that BB was a big haul. Were you looking for some sort of heart felt apology for my mis-speaking or something. And furthermore, that part of the post was not really a primary point. The point was that Jay Graham was here for two recruiting classes and got zero high ranked RB's. When he left, we immediately got two highly regarded RB's. In state or not is completely irrelevant imo.
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U used the "decade" comment to bring a WOW factor to ur argument and taking it out makes it fall flat. That's why it matters. A person that doesn't know better reads that and then passes it along etc etc.

Let me ask u something...how long was cjg at UT?? He was working on Green and u blame him for not sealing him up?? How do u expect him to get him when he has to sell a brand new coach he doesn't really know??? Or did green not like cbj??? I can go on and on and on and create assumptions like urs.
 
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