Hiking Thread

Will, just in case you should have some downtime due to serious mountain weather, it never hurts to have contingency plans. Here is a link to museums in the greater Glacier area: http://glaciermt.com/museums.php. The Hockaday Museum of Art in Kalispell (http://www.hockadaymuseum.org/index.cfm?inc=page&page=6) and the Museum of the Plains Indian in Browning (http://www.visitmt.com/listings/general/museum/museum-of-the-plains-indian.html) would certainly provide a pleasant way to wait out the weather.
 
We went to Bays mountain park in Kingsport again yesterday and hiked to the fire tower. It is a beautiful place with over 40 miles of trails. I can't wait to go back and do some of the other trails.
 
Will, just in case you should have some downtime due to serious mountain weather, it never hurts to have contingency plans. Here is a link to museums in the greater Glacier area: http://glaciermt.com/museums.php. The Hockaday Museum of Art in Kalispell (http://www.hockadaymuseum.org/index.cfm?inc=page&page=6) and the Museum of the Plains Indian in Browning (http://www.visitmt.com/listings/general/museum/museum-of-the-plains-indian.html) would certainly provide a pleasant way to wait out the weather.

Making me feel bad... I live 3 miles from Hockaday Museum and have not visited. Putting it on the list of to do's.
 
Will, just in case you should have some downtime due to serious mountain weather, it never hurts to have contingency plans. Here is a link to museums in the greater Glacier area: http://glaciermt.com/museums.php. The Hockaday Museum of Art in Kalispell (http://www.hockadaymuseum.org/index.cfm?inc=page&page=6) and the Museum of the Plains Indian in Browning (http://www.visitmt.com/listings/general/museum/museum-of-the-plains-indian.html) would certainly provide a pleasant way to wait out the weather.

That is an excellent point as well. We do plan on spending at least one day exploring Kalispell or Browning, if you have any suggestions for food or shopping.

Speaking of, we will actually be staying on the Blackfoot Reserve for the latter portion of the trip.
 
Hiked Wildcat Den in Muscatine, IA yesterday with my girlfriend and her 7 year old son. Saw a $5 bill in the tall weeds next to the creek so I instructed the kid to pick it up and keep it for himself... turned out to be a $50. Ugh.
 
With respect to Kalispell proper, I am sure that NEVolFan would be able to provide far better information on food/shopping opportunities, particularly with regard to facilities frequented by locals. The only restaurants that I used there were your typical franchise chains, notably IHOP, Pizza Hut and Subway, all of which are still represented there. By all means, I cannot emphasize enough that you absolutely will want to sample the pastries at Polebridge Mercantile (http://polebridgemerc.com/bakery-mercantile/), up on the North Fork. If timing permits, when you are in the general Lake McDonald area, you will enjoy the ambiance and food at the Lake McDonald Lodge (http://www.glaciernationalparklodges.com/dining/lake-mcdonald-lodge/russells-fireside). I have never dined there, but the Logan’s Bar & Grill, located at the Grouse Mountain Lodge in Whitefish, which is fifteen miles due north of Kalispell (via US 93), appears to offer a nice dining experience in a more upscale setting (http://www.glacierparkinc.com/lodging/grouse-mountain-lodge/logans-bar-grill/).

On the east side, I highly recommend the Snowgoose Grille, which is part of the St. Mary Lodge and Resort complex (http://www.glacierparkinc.com/brewster_travel/media/Shared/Document/Menu/SML-Dinner-WEB.pdf). Directly adjacent to the entrance to the Snowgoose Grille is the St. Mary Gift Shop (http://www.glacierparkinc.com/lodging/st-mary-lodge-resort/dining-shopping/) and a little pastry shop, the name of which I do not remember, that typically offers some scrumptious fudge and other goodies for the sweet tooth, many of which incorporate the ubiquitous huckleberry. We spent a rainy evening at the Many Glacier Lodge and their restaurant (http://www.glaciernationalparklodges.com/dining/many-glacier-hotel/ptarmigan). If Blackfeet history and culture would be of interest, packaged tours by a tribal member are offered out of Browning (http://www.visitmt.com/listings/general/specialty-tour/blackfeet-cultural-history-tours.html).

Incidentally, a historic part of the Glacier National Park experience for many is the tours provided by “Jammers,” their highly distinctive fleet of red buses, which are kept in vintage 1930s condition. See http://www.glaciernationalparklodges.com/red-bus-tours.

Another option, in the event of bad weather, would be to take the southern route, US2, from West Glacier to East Glacier. The extreme southern part of the park is more heavily timbered and not as visually impressive. However, this option would allow you to poke around in the small tourist shopping venues in West Glacier and East Glacier. Additionally, the Glacier Park Lodge in East Glacier, part of that magnificent network of historic lodges in the park, would offer additional shopping opportunities and a good option for lunch/dinner via the Great Northern Dining Room (http://www.glacierparkinc.com/brewster_travel/media/Shared/Document/Menu/GPL-2016-Dinner-WEB.pdf).
 
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That is an excellent point as well. We do plan on spending at least one day exploring Kalispell or Browning, if you have any suggestions for food or shopping.

Speaking of, we will actually be staying on the Blackfoot Reserve for the latter portion of the trip.

Kalispell eatery that is my go to when I eat out..Famous Dave's... excellent BBQ, they do a great job on their brisket.
 
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Another thing I should check about I suppose. Any other geographic features worth seeing other than peaks? Any rivers, particular views on lakes, waterfalls, etc.? We will be right next to Flathead, and while we acclimate on day one we'll likely explore its shores.
 
Depending on exactly where in the Flathead Lake area you will be staying and how much time you want to devote to “exploring its shores,” one area that you might consider is the National Bison Range near Charlo, MT. Flathead is an enormous lake and, from Kalispell to Polson, at its extreme southwestern corner, comprises a 51-mile drive. From there, “take Highway 93 south of Polson for 18 miles to State Highway 212; travel 12 miles to the entrance” of the Bison Range (https://www.fws.gov/refuge/National_Bison_Range/Plan_Your_Visit/directions.html). So, that would be roughly an 81-mile drive one way, which may well be more than you want to divert your itinerary.

With respect to lakes, you will skirt the shores of Lake McDonald and St. Mary Lake, as well as McDonald Creek, for many miles as you traverse the Going-to-the-Sun Road. The Wild Goose Island pull-off, which overlooks St. Mary Lake is, in my opinion, the signature vista of Glacier NP. Lower Saint Mary Lake is actually on the Blackfeet Reservation, but is absolutely gorgeous in fall, due to the heavy aspen concentrations along its shores. Then, you have Lake Sherburne, which extends up much of the Many Glacier valley’s length, and Swiftcurrent Lake, which is right next to the Many Glacier Hotel. In the Two Medicine valley, you have Lower Two Medicine Lake, which straddles the park/reservation boundary, and Two Medicine Lake, the shores of which abut the terminus of the road into this valley.

Should you decide to take the southern route (US2) around Glacier, you will follow the Middle Fork of the Flathead River for a significant distance east from West Glacier. If you take the combined route of Camas Creek Road and the Outer, then Inner North Fork Road, north from Apgar, you will be rewarded with views of the wild North Fork of the Flathead region and, finally, Kintla Lake, which provides a fitting punctuation mark to your exploration of that area. See this website (http://www.enjoyyourparks.com/GlacierParkNorthForkArea.html) for an overview of the North Fork area and this page (https://www.nps.gov/glac/planyourvisit/maps.htm) for a good map of the entire park.

As for waterfalls, consult this chart (http://www.hikinginglacier.com/hiking-glacier-national-park.htm) with respect to the relative difficulty of trails in the park. According to it, the Running Eagle Falls, Baring Falls, Trail of the Cedars, and St. Mary Falls trails are among the shortest and least challenging trails in Glacier. Trailheads for the Baring Falls and St. Mary Falls trails are directly accessible from the Going-To-The-Sun Road, approximately 10 miles west of the St. Mary Entrance Station. The trailhead for Running Eagle Falls is located 1.1 miles west of the Two Medicine entrance station.

The Trail of the Cedars, one of two wheelchair-accessible trails in Glacier National Park, is a loop hike that begins and ends on the Going-To-The-Sun Road, located 5.5 miles east of the Lake McDonald Lodge. Since "this is an extremely popular trailhead, parking can be a [problem] during peak travel season. Being situated on the eastern edge of the maritime climate of the Pacific Northwest, the Lake McDonald Valley also marks the extreme eastern limits for western hemlocks and red cedars. The humidity in this valley allows the cedars to grow to heights of 100 feet, and diameters of 4 to 7 feet. Some of the trees in this area are estimated to be more than 500 years old.” In short, this is a tiny little pocket of the Pacific Northwest coast, both climatically and botanically. See https://www.jameskay.com/landscape-...tana.html#NP=608715bfd1456ba659bed5806e812b56 and http://www.hikinginglacier.com/trail-of-the-cedars.htm. If you choose to take the spur trail to Avalanche Lake, your journey will become a bit more challenging, but you ultimately will be rewarded with views of, first, Avalanche Creek, which provides a brilliant contrast between the clarity of its water and the lushness of surrounding vegetation (see https://www.jameskay.com/landscape-...tana.html#NP=608715bfd1456ba659bed5806e812b56), and, then Avalanche Lake, which is fed by no less than five waterfalls.

Obviously, Logan Pass, which is located on the Continental Divide, deserves an extended stop on your way across the Going-To-The-Sun Road. A visitor center is located there, and the Hidden Lake (https://www.jameskay.com/landscape-...tana.html#NP=608715bfd1456ba659bed5806e812b56) and Highline Trails begin there. Among the multitude of magnificent peaks in Glacier, two deserve special notice. Mount Gould is the striking peak that gives the Many Glacier valley its Switzerland-like feel. Chief Mountain, located in the extreme northeastern part of the park, stands like a lone sentinel looking out over the Northern Plains; it remains highly sacred to the Blackfeet.
 
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Bison range is a must... take the long route up and over. Scary downhill stretches but views are amazing. Bison will be lounging on the side of the road and if lucky you will have some crossing close by. Some good hikes at the top... easy 1/2 mile to a great overlook.


A few more... this one is the trail to Tout Lake... you can find it by taking the road just past Lake McDonald Lodge. This trial gives me the willies, as it goes to the lake where the Night of the Grizzly took place... back in1967, a group of hikers were stalked by a grizzly bear and one lost her life to the bear.
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At Logan Pass... goats abound.
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Friend caught this in Lake McDonald...
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Apgar... must see place.
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My ride... a 21 ft Freighter canoe... 20HP very stable in 2-3 seas.
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Bison range is a must... take the long route up and over. Scary downhill stretches but views are amazing. Bison will be lounging on the side of the road and if lucky you will have some crossing close by. Some good hikes at the top... easy 1/2 mile to a great overlook.


A few more... this one is the trail to Tout Lake... you can find it by taking the road just past Lake McDonald Lodge. This trial gives me the willies, as it goes to the lake where the Night of the Grizzly took place... back in1967, a group of hikers were stalked by a grizzly bear and one lost her life to the bear.
TroutLakeTrail_opt3_zps63c9be9b.jpg


At Logan Pass... goats abound.
goat2_zpsc3ddde7b.jpg


Friend caught this in Lake McDonald...
McDonald_Laker_zpsb2ba947f.jpg


Apgar... must see place.
launch_LakeMcDonald-2_800_zpsb5dd5def.jpg


My ride... a 21 ft Freighter canoe... 20HP very stable in 2-3 seas.
9-15-13_canoe1_zps980e3a79.jpg

You sicken me with jealousy :)
 
Ulysses, now you understand why I am so enamored with Montana in general and, more specifically, Glacier National Park.
 
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Ulysses, now you understand why I am so enamored with Montana in general and, more specifically, Glacier National Park.

Oh..I get it. I just haven't gotten there yet :) I know you love it, and I'm sure I will too. It will be at least two years before I can go however. I have to take a Arizona trip next year, not just to appease my wife whose folks are in Phoenix, but also because the Grand Canyon us calling and I must go :)
 
Will, a quick question for you and any other board members who might like to chime in on this topic: Have you ever used trekking poles? They add two additional points of contact and, at least in theory, provide stability and enhanced balance/energy efficiency in navigating particularly steep or uneven terrain. I just thought of this in light of the fact that one member of your party is pregnant.
 
Oh..I get it. I just haven't gotten there yet :) I know you love it, and I'm sure I will too. It will be at least two years before I can go however. I have to take a Arizona trip next year, not just to appease my wife whose folks are in Phoenix, but also because the Grand Canyon us calling and I must go :)


Are you, per chance, thinking in terms of taking one of those legendary mule rides into the canyon (https://www.nps.gov/grca/planyourvisit/mule_trips.htm)?
 
Will, a quick question for you and any other board members who might like to chime in on this topic: Have you ever used trekking poles? They add two additional points of contact and, at least in theory, provide stability and enhanced balance/energy efficiency in navigating particularly steep or uneven terrain. I just thought of this in light of the fact that one member of your party is pregnant.

Always. I use two; TO and his brother use one. Makes a real difference on knees long term (per our MD). Also...you should see me pull a hill:)!
 
Will, a quick question for you and any other board members who might like to chime in on this topic: Have you ever used trekking poles? They add two additional points of contact and, at least in theory, provide stability and enhanced balance/energy efficiency in navigating particularly steep or uneven terrain. I just thought of this in light of the fact that one member of your party is pregnant.

I use a really sturdy 5 ft hiking staff that really helps me in getting up and downhill. It is a beautiful honeysuckle wrapped sapling pole stained cherry red. A local craftsman finds and makes them.
 
Will, a quick question for you and any other board members who might like to chime in on this topic: Have you ever used trekking poles? They add two additional points of contact and, at least in theory, provide stability and enhanced balance/energy efficiency in navigating particularly steep or uneven terrain. I just thought of this in light of the fact that one member of your party is pregnant.

I use trekking poles because I carry my daughter. Let me tell you it's a worlds difference between trekking poles and no trekking poles. At first I didn't think there would be much difference but now I'll never hike without them.
 
I use a really sturdy 5 ft hiking staff that really helps me in getting up and downhill. It is a beautiful honeysuckle wrapped sapling pole stained cherry red. A local craftsman finds and makes them.

I used to do that for myself. I wouldn't stain it because I was young and didn't care if it lasted.
 
Ulysses, now you understand why I am so enamored with Montana in general and, more specifically, Glacier National Park.


Did Montana in '97. From Helena to Yellowstone. Couple days at Park Lake above Helena. Fantastic. Wildlife pops up everywhere. Saw Moose, White Tail, Mulies, Griz, Osprey picking up trout, prong horn abundant as cattle. Stunning mountain views. great trout fishing. And the best steak house I have ever eaten at to this day called Marysville Steak House, in Marysville. A tiny semi-ghost town about 10 mile or so outside Helena. we flipped a coin between Glacier and Yellowstone. Both 4 hours from Helena thanks to Montana daytime speed laws. Ended up at Yellowstone. It would be hard to convince me there is a place more stunning than Montana. And there are some gorgeous places that part of the country. One of the buddies wouldn't fly, so he drove and hauled all the gear. He went from Memphis up to the Badlands and across.
 
Second half of August. We are well aware of how much the temperature can vary. As I previously mentioned, my father in law and my sister in law have both been out west or to Glacier itself. The first night we camped in Colorado, it was 30 degrees, the last day we left a week and a half later, it was 90 lol.

LOL. remember that well. Helena was our base in '97. Arrived in short sleeves in July. Left in heavy coat 7 days later. Drove to the top of Mt. Washburn in Yellowstone and played in the summer snow.
 
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