Holly Not Going Anywhere

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All of those wins were not against the weak. and why do you guys just stop being lady vols fans because everything out your mouths is negative . Like it or not the women has sent 5 players to the wbna. 2 elite eights and 3 champion ships. NO COACH AND THE INCLUDES SUMMITS HAS DONE THAT IN THERE FIRST THREE YEARS. PERIOD. CAN SHE GET BETTER YES AND SHE ADMITTED THAT IN HER POST GAME INTERVIEW IN SO MANY WORDS. BUT TO SAY SHE CAN'T COACH IS ASS NINE. SHE IS NOT SUMMIT NEVER WILL BE IF YALL LEAVING IN LALA LAND THEN BYE.
 
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madtownvol said:
There is not much the team or staff can do about past games so wouldn't building a winning streak, after a disappointing start, like be a good thing? Sure these are not the toughest teams but you do have play who is on your schedule and a win is a win.
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I recall Barbara Dooley saying similar things about her coaching son. Or maybe it was Vince. Definitely the part about a win is a win.. And something about proper hygiene..

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armchair said:
Unless this team can really pull it together and roar into national contention this year, which in turn might spark our recruiting, I think the Vols will be mediocre under Warlick. The only success she could claim in prior years was doing well in the SEC--nothing more than that for a program that is used to being in the Final Four. This year, we are not even doing well in the SEC--first ever loss to miss. state; rare loss to arky, loss to florida. And recruiting? It's been going south. I don't think Hart cares all that much about women's bb, truth be told. He comes from bama, which has been the worst program in the league for a long time. Warlick is not a good coach.
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Sadly, Holly supporters are ok with an SEC title. We won't even be competing for those with our current recruiting.
 
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ladyvosl23 said:
All of those wins were not against the weak. and why do you guys just stop being lady vols fans because everything out your mouths is negative . Like it or not the women has sent 5 players to the wbna. 2 elite eights and 3 champion ships. NO COACH AND THE INCLUDES SUMMITS HAS DONE THAT IN THERE FIRST THREE YEARS. PERIOD. CAN SHE GET BETTER YES AND SHE ADMITTED THAT IN HER POST GAME INTERVIEW IN SO MANY WORDS. BUT TO SAY SHE CAN'T COACH IS ASS NINE. SHE IS NOT SUMMIT NEVER WILL BE IF YALL LEAVING IN LALA LAND THEN BYE.
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Wow. This post is disturbing in so many ways.
 
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what crazy you guys suggested nikki cadwell to be the next coach and she has yet to recieve 100 wins, but hey lets get on board will win championships/
 
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therealitytheory said:
I recall Barbara Dooley saying similar things about her coaching son. Or maybe it was Vince. Definitely the part about a win is a win.. And something about proper hygiene..

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The fan police have spoken!!

Oh, the program is in decline so nothing can be a cause for even a momentary bout of enjoyment or positive feeling. Good wins-- like against OSU or a small win streak like the LVs now have going-- are not worthy of celebration or even the slightest glimmer of optimism. From this dire view, a win is no different from a loss; it is all bad because--DOOLEY!

At such a point, I can't understand why one would even be a fan of the LVs because what fun could there be in that joyless approach. Unless of course, someone really gets off from ranting and ranting and ranting that they want Holly fired yesterday because she is SO TERRIBLE AND DON'T YOU EVER FORGET IT!!!!!

Fine, there are plenty of "fire Holly threads" on this board but why not let some fans have just a little space of sunshine where they can simply say, "hey, it was nice to see the LVs get a win!"

Of course, such plurality is intolerable to the joy police:
there will be no moments of happiness for any LV fan under any circumstances until Holly is fired!!

My what an inspiring life mission you and your like minded cohorts have taken on.

One piece of unsolicited advice. You might seek some help for what appears to be a severe case of Post-Dooley Stress Disorder.
 
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madtownvol said:
The fan police have spoken!!

Oh, the program is in decline so nothing can be a cause for even a momentary bout of enjoyment or positive feeling. Good wins-- like against OSU or a small win streak like the LVs now have going-- are not worthy of celebration or even the slightest glimmer of optimism. From this dire view, a win is no different from a loss; it is all bad because--DOOLEY!

At such a point, I can't understand why one would even be a fan of the LVs because what fun could there be in that joyless approach. Unless of course, someone really gets off from ranting and ranting and ranting that they want Holly fired yesterday because she is SO TERRIBLE AND DON'T YOU EVER FORGET IT!!!!!

Fine, there are plenty of "fire Holly threads" on this board but why not let some fans have just a little space of sunshine where they can simply say, "hey, it was nice to see the LVs get a win!"

Of course, such plurality is intolerable to the joy police:
there will be no moments of happiness for any LV fan under any circumstances until Holly is fired!!

My what an inspiring life mission you and your like minded cohorts have taken on.

One piece of unsolicited advice. You might seek some help for what appears to be a severe case of Post-Dooley Stress Disorder.
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Fire Holly! NOW!:)

If you're looking for like minded Holly minions why not post on the Summitt? That's where you'll find all things roll with Holly. In the mean time while you're contemplating that roll..FIRE HOLLY! NOW! SHE'S THE WORSE COACH EVER!
 
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T.J. said:
Fire Holly! NOW!:)

If you're looking for like minded Holly minions why not post on the Summitt? That's where you'll find all things roll with Holly. In the mean time while you're contemplating that roll..FIRE HOLLY! NOW! SHE'S THE WORSE COACH EVER!
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Ah, you see that is my point. Nothing in my post was all things roll with Holly or I just want Holy minions; no, I was saying that it is counterproductive when the anti-Holly sentiment is so strong that it becomes contentious to be glad that the LVs have a won game. But for the militant "fire Holly crowd," everything is framed as being for or against Holly. There is no in-between or grey area. If you are glad that the LVs have put together a win streak, or that Tea is starting to find her game and or that Diamond had a much better outing, then YOU ARE A NO GOOD, DIRTY HOLLY SUPPORTER WHO SHOULD POST SOMEWHERE ELSE!!!!!


:hi:
 
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ladyvosl23 said:
All of those wins were not against the weak. and why do you guys just stop being lady vols fans because everything out your mouths is negative . Like it or not the women has sent 5 players to the wbna. 2 elite eights and 3 champion ships. NO COACH AND THE INCLUDES SUMMITS HAS DONE THAT IN THERE FIRST THREE YEARS. PERIOD. CAN SHE GET BETTER YES AND SHE ADMITTED THAT IN HER POST GAME INTERVIEW IN SO MANY WORDS. BUT TO SAY SHE CAN'T COACH IS ASS NINE. SHE IS NOT SUMMIT NEVER WILL BE IF YALL LEAVING IN LALA LAND THEN BYE.
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Ummmmmm.....ok. I guess all I can say is WTH did I just read? As far as ASS NINE, my gf says mine is a 10 :)
 
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madtownvol said:
Ah, you see that is my point. Nothing in my post was all things roll with Holly or I just want Holy minions; no, I was saying that it is counterproductive when the anti-Holly sentiment is so strong that it becomes contentious to be glad that the LVs have a won game. But for the militant "fire Holly crowd," everything is framed as being for or against Holly. There is no in-between or grey area. If you are glad that the LVs have put together a win streak, or that Tea is starting to find her game and or that Diamond had a much better outing, then YOU ARE A NO GOOD, DIRTY HOLLY SUPPORTER WHO SHOULD POST SOMEWHERE ELSE!!!!!


:hi:
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Look I'm bothered by the fact that Holly Warlick is the Lady Vol coach. I'm not stopping you from posting anything positive about the team. In fact I like to read positive stuff about my favorite team. Keep posting positive uplifting stuff. I'll do the same it makes for a much more fun board to read and post on.

In the mean time I have to get a few things off my chest because I'm annoyed with CHW. I want her gone like last yesterday but she ain't going anywhere soon. The word is out. What can I do?

But post my displeasure. I'll try to keep it to a minimum but Holly is going to have to help by having the team keep winning. If not? It's going to be the same ole same ole. Fire Holly! NOW!:)
 
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madtownvol said:
The fan police have spoken!!

Oh, the program is in decline so nothing can be a cause for even a momentary bout of enjoyment or positive feeling. Good wins-- like against OSU or a small win streak like the LVs now have going-- are not worthy of celebration or even the slightest glimmer of optimism. From this dire view, a win is no different from a loss; it is all bad because--DOOLEY!

At such a point, I can't understand why one would even be a fan of the LVs because what fun could there be in that joyless approach. Unless of course, someone really gets off from ranting and ranting and ranting that they want Holly fired yesterday because she is SO TERRIBLE AND DON'T YOU EVER FORGET IT!!!!!

Fine, there are plenty of "fire Holly threads" on this board but why not let some fans have just a little space of sunshine where they can simply say, "hey, it was nice to see the LVs get a win!"

Of course, such plurality is intolerable to the joy police:
there will be no moments of happiness for any LV fan under any circumstances until Holly is fired!!

My what an inspiring life mission you and your like minded cohorts have taken on.

One piece of unsolicited advice. You might seek some help for what appears to be a severe case of Post-Dooley Stress Disorder.
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Don't know how long you have being a lady vol fan, teams like Alabama, Arkansas, Miss State and on are practice teams for lady vols, since Holly took over we have steadily decline in recruiting, wins over ranked teams, lack of effort from players mostly due to development and on and on. Sorry that long time fan don't find joy in wins over bad team. That makes us smart. We cannot support average.
 
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Volsaaura said:
Don't know how long you have being a lady vol fan, teams like Alabama, Arkansas, Miss State and on are practice teams for lady vols, since Holly took over we have steadily decline in recruiting, wins over ranked teams, lack of effort from players mostly due to development and on and on. Sorry that long time fan don't find joy in wins over bad team. That makes us smart. We cannot support average.
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HUH, What?? You mean Holly's not the first coach of the team? I thought LV basketball just started this season; MIND BLOWN! I will have to google on this. Just give me a second: "Did the LV basketball program exist before the 2015-2016 season? Hmmm, a lot of links are popping up. Well I'll be....

But I do know some folks that were alive way back in the day when the LVs played in the AIAW and could never quite get over the hump against Cheryl Miller and USC (I thought those stories were like, you know ancient Greek myths; Cheryl Miller, Zeus and so on). I guess not...

And those people tell me that times change; there is more parity in women's basketball and that it is not healthy to live in the past. They also acknowledge that LVs have clearly dropped a notch from the program's heyday as evinced by the final four drought and the struggles of this season. And they point out that Holly actually inherited a program that had already dropped a level. Is she the coach to bring them back up to elite status? My more experienced confidants tell me that there is a good reason to have doubts about this. But they also note she is the head coach and that her status is not likely to change in the future. So, it does not hurt to at take some pleasures when positive glimmers appear. In the end, there is not much difference between wishing that Holly gets fired or that she grows into the job. Both positions recognize that things on the coaching side need to improve.

But, if someone says only firing Holly will do, that entrenchment suggest that it is more about personality than results.

And last but not least, my experienced informants say that if someone can't take any pleasure from a conference win or the LV's very recent SEC co-championship or the moments of brilliance that these players sometimes display, then you really should find something else to do.

Okay, I am going to read up on who this Pat Summitt person is.
 
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madtownvol said:
HUH, What?? You mean Holly's not the first coach of the team? I thought LV basketball just started this season; MIND BLOWN! I will have to google on this. Just give me a second: "Did the LV basketball program exist before the 2015-2016 season? Hmmm, a lot of links are popping up. Well I'll be....

But I do know some folks that were alive way back in the day when the LVs played in the AIAW and could never quite get over the hump against Cheryl Miller and USC (I thought those stories were like, you know ancient Greek myths; Cheryl Miller, Zeus and so on). I guess not...

And those people tell me that times change; there is more parity in women's basketball and that it is not healthy to live in the past. They also acknowledge that LVs have clearly dropped a notch from the program's heyday as evinced by the final four drought and the struggles of this season. And they point out that Holly actually inherited a program that had already dropped a level. Is she the coach to bring them back up to elite status? My more experienced confidants tell me that there is a good reason to have doubts about this. But they also note she is the head coach and that her status is not likely to change in the future. So, it does not hurt to at take some pleasures when positive glimmers appear. In the end, there is not much difference between wishing that Holly gets fired or that she grows into the job. Both positions recognize that things on the coaching side need to improve.

But, if someone says only firing Holly will do, that entrenchment suggest that it is more about personality than results.

And last but not least, my experienced informants say that if someone can't take any pleasure from a conference win or the LV's very recent SEC co-championship or the moments of brilliance that these players sometimes display, then you really should find something else to do.

Okay, I am going to read up on who this Pat Summitt person is.
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Madtown, as usual, love your posts:). (Feel free to contact me as an experienced informant anytime for historical questions re the LVs. Sat with NightTrain her Prop 48 year and have been in love with the program ever since:air_kiss:.)

Just to help you out, Pat Summitt was at one time a coach in the NCAA. Spent her whole career at UT (because KY made a BAAAAAAAAD error in economics.)
 
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LVJeff said:
Caldwell's record as head coach is 163–90.
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And that only makes my point we would rather take a coach who has not recruited were she is and has almost 100 loses compared to a coach who besides this year has recruited well and only has 28 loses hmmm
 
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JVol76 said:
Surprise, surprise that Holly's girlfriend is on here taking up for her. You are 1 of 2 things, blind or a troll. There is no way you could think that Warlick is the right coach for this team. It's not like this is her first year of coaching and you don't know what you're getting. This middle of the pack junk has been going on for years. We know you've been singing her praises and admitting you're wrong is hard to do for people but it's ok, admitting that she's a hack is ok to do.
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Who would that be. I want a name. If you don't have a name then STFU!
 
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I roll with Holly. She is coaching her ass off this year and personally I haven't seen the SEC this tough in a while, there are some really good coaches and players around our league.
 
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ladyvosl23 said:
...you guys suggested nikki cadwell to be the next coach and she has yet to recieve 100 wins,
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LVJeff said:
Caldwell's record as head coach is 163–90.
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ladyvosl23 said:
And that only makes my point we would rather take a coach who has not recruited were she is and has almost 100 loses compared to a coach who besides this year has recruited well and only has 28 loses hmmm
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Well, I don't know what your point was. What you posted was Cadwell (sic) has yet to recieve (sic) 100 wins. A demonstrably false statement.

To be clear, I did not nor am I suggesting Caldwell for coach. But I know how to look up how many wins she has as HC.
 
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Smallvol#1 said:
Madtown, as usual, love your posts:). (Feel free to contact me as an experienced informant anytime for historical questions re the LVs. Sat with NightTrain her Prop 48 year and have been in love with the program ever since:air_kiss:.)

Just to help you out, Pat Summitt was at one time a coach in the NCAA. Spent her whole career at UT (because KY made a BAAAAAAAAD error in economics.)
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Good to know thanks:p
 
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movinonup said:
Not long ago, there was a big push on here to fire Holly and hire Nikki - anyone see LSU play last night ? I know they have been hit hard by injuries and have no depth (which has never been an excuse for Holly), but can you imagine this board if we put that team on the floor ?
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The last two games was good in that we won both and looked much better, however, let us remember that we have final 4 talent but, for the most part, are playing like a team with middle of the pack talent. The last two wins are great, however, there is no excuse for this team to be hanging on the edge hoping for an NCAA tournament, or even a WNIT, seeding. This team is much better than that.
 
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therealitytheory said:
Holly's not going anywhere and she's getting acclaim for home wins over two mediocre SEC teams.

Meanwhile we continue to lose ground to UConn, ND, Stanford etc. Our status as the top one or two women's bb program grows dimmer. We're like bama football was under Dennis Franchione...winning games, but out of the national conversation. bammers put up with that for all of two years... ...
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Exactly right. The only thing that should matter to this program is how it measures up in comparison to UConn and one or two other programs. By that measure it is no longer successful.
 
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