Holly Warlick Raise

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ivyleague said:
One, this is more or less how Holly dresses.

Two, Pat's suit is nice but is somewhat out of style now; the jacket is too long.

Three, and most importantly, why the hell does it matter how Holly dresses? And what, specifically, do you have a problem with? Would you criticize a male coach in the same manner?
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Pats suit was probably in style when this picture was taken!!!
 
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508mikey said:
The long jackets look alot better and they NEVER go out of style --
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Wrong. But then, you have the mentality of a 14-year-old boy, so you probably don't know any better . . . do you, Mikey?

(P.S. "A lot" is two words. The more you know . . . )

508mikey said:
as for male coaches yes I would -- ex Billy Donovan never wore a suit (sloppy) -- Calipari on the other hand looks like he makes 7 million in his Brioni suits
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Calipari oozes sleaze, but hey, so do you. So . . .
 
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ivyleague said:
Explain why you think Holly is "going nowhere." How did you arrive at this conclusion? Try to articulate some sort of reasonable response.
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Because she sat here for 27 years shunning all other opportunities for this 1 job. She's in her hometown. Hell, they could probably cut her pay in half and she'd stay. It's simply about this job for her. She will retire here regardless of pay. Her loyalty lessens her market value if simple business principles are applied with these facts in mind.
 
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reverseosmosis said:
Because she sat here for 27 years shunning all other opportunities for this 1 job. She's in her hometown. Hell, they could probably cut her pay in half and she'd stay. It's simply about this job for her. She will retire here regardless of pay. Her loyalty lessens her market value if simple business principles are applied with these facts in mind.
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Well, this is one of the most ignorant things I've read on here. What you don't realize is the reason you think (incorrectly) that she is "going nowhere" is exactly WHY she deserves to be the head coach of this program. She's obviously exactly where she wants to be, doing something she loves, in a place she loves, and doing a damn good job at it. People are paid based on performance, not loyalty and not whether they would stay in a job anyway regardless of pay. The fact is, Holly is the most successful head coach at UT at this point. If you don't like that fact, too damn bad.
 
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ivyleague said:
Well, this is one of the most ignorant things I've read on here. What you don't realize is the reason you think (incorrectly) that she is "going nowhere" is exactly WHY she deserves to be the head coach of this program. She's obviously exactly where she wants to be, doing something she loves, in a place she loves, and doing a damn good job at it. People are paid based on performance, not loyalty and not whether they would stay in a job anyway regardless of pay. The fact is, Holly is the most successful head coach at UT at this point. If you don't like that fact, too damn bad.
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Deserves to be paid and has to be paid are worlds apart. The amount of that raise falls in neither realm. Could have moved more reasonably by increments. Now when she accomplishes something great, they have set themselves up for tremendous overpayment. This is a national championship level raise. And the fact is that many coaches are rewarded to avoid moving to another job. Pay attention. It happens dozens of times in every sport every year. See Jimmy Sexton's career. Nothing I said disputed anything you said here. You seem to be arguing with yourself in a separate conversation. Pay attention and stay on topic.
 
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reverseosmosis said:
Deserves to be paid and has to be paid are worlds apart. The amount of that raise falls in neither realm. Could have moved more reasonably by increments. Now when she accomplishes something great, they have set themselves up for tremendous overpayment. This is a national championship level raise. And the fact is that many coaches are rewarded to avoid moving to another job. Pay attention. It happens dozens of times in every sport every year. See Jimmy Sexton's career. Nothing I said disputed anything you said here. You seem to be arguing with yourself in a separate conversation. Pay attention and stay on topic.
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Holly and Dawn Staley are the two most successful women's basketball coaches in the SEC at this point, yet Holly still ranks fourth in salary, even with this raise. The fact that she would have (likely) stayed at UT even without a raise is irrelevant.
 
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Well since we're talking about it lol. McGraw is the best dressed coach in women's college basketball. Just being honest lol. Nikki Caldwell comes in 2nd and Sherri Cole rounds out the top 3. :) Not that it matters what they are wearing since it's not their jobs to put on a fashion show on the sideline during a game. Honestly though Muffet takes the cake when it comes to style.
 
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LadyVol1908 said:
Well since we're talking about it lol. McGraw is the best dressed coach in women's college basketball. Just being honest lol. Nikki Caldwell comes in 2nd and Sherri Cole rounds out the top 3. :) Not that it matters what they are wearing since it's not their jobs to put on a fashion show on the sideline during a game. Honestly though Muffet takes the cake when it comes to style.
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I completely disagree (but that's okay! :) ) With rare exception, I just don't care for the way McGraw dresses. Nikki is fashionable, but sometimes I shake my head at what she wears on the sidelines. I've not seen enough of Sherri Cole to form an opinion. Holly isn't flashy, and I don't think you'll ever see her in a pair of stilettos, but she dresses fine for the job she's doing. Her dress is professional and classic, if a bit subdued. If she came out looking like Mulkey, McGraw, or Caldwell, my mouth would hit the floor.
 
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Slydell said:
What about raises for a failing football or basketball or baseball coach?
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Fulmer was the same circumstance. They could have underpaid him versus market per accomplishments because he was going nowhere. Jimmy Sexton played the NFL angle to keep his raises coming, but I think they could have called his bluff. I think his post-UT career shows that. The added buyout given to him was biggest failure of Hamilton's handling of Fulmers dismissal. The Butch extension was same thing. While his loyalty is not at their level, we had no need to prevent a move to Michigan for him last year. Not sure it applies in many other cases right now. Maybe Serrano, but he likely still has demand elsewhere. His value isn't shot and he seems to like it here but not deeply entrenched.
 
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ivyleague said:
I don't like McGraw's style; I don't care who voted her "best dressed." That said, her style is her own, and if that's what she likes to wear, so be it. Like McGraw, Holly has her own style, and she shouldn't feel as if she needs to dress a particular way. A basketball court isn't a New York or Paris runway. The fans aren't there to watch a fashion show; they're there to watch a ballgame. Holly apparently doesn't like flashy clothing or skirts and heels, but so what? Her clothing is classy, it's professional, and it is appropriate for her job. She dresses like countless other female basketball coaches. The only people who have a problem are those who judge her job performance, her skills, her talent, and her ability based on what she wears.

By the way, I have great style.
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And, I like the message of stability we are sending to recruits and fans by saying:

A promotion for Kyra Elzy also was announced. The former Lady Vol standout, who is entering her fourth season on the UT staff, was promoted from assistant coach to associate head coach.

Elzy, a 1999 UT graduate who played collegiately from 1996-2001, has been an assistant coach/recruiting coordinator on Warlick's staff since April 26, 2012. She returned to her alma mater after a four-year stint at the University of Kentucky and also had previous stops at Kansas, Western Kentucky and Virginia Tech.

"I've known Kyra since her playing days here, and her commitment to our program is obvious," Warlick said. "She has done a tremendous job as our recruiting coordinator, and she is relentless in aiding our program's pursuit of excellence. I truly appreciate her passion and drive for Lady Vol basketball."


And the fact that Pat is still on the payroll probably has something to do with Holly's pay. Holly could really careless about the money. ijs All she cares about is the Lady Vols being back on top. And I think all the people on her staff feel the same way.
 
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ivyleague said:
I completely disagree (but that's okay! :) ) With rare exception, I just don't care for the way McGraw dresses. Nikki is fashionable, but sometimes I shake my head at what she wears on the sidelines. I've not seen enough of Sherri Cole to form an opinion. Holly isn't flashy, and I don't think you'll ever see her in a pair of stilettos, but she dresses fine for the job she's doing. Her dress is professional and classic, if a bit subdued. If she came out looking like Mulkey, McGraw, or Caldwell, my mouth would hit the floor.
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I completely agree with your re Muffin's "style". And agree with you again, she is a very good coach...and, that's why she's paid the $$, not for her style of dressing.
 
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governmentmule said:
CHW is doing a very good job,taking her teams to very successful years,I would love for her to have had healthy teams when the tournament came around over her time as the Head Coach

she is still on a learning curve as a head coach too,let's not forget that and I think she has shown an improvement every year,with injury riddled teams

I'm hoping that there are no major injuries this year, wouldn't that be great ? for a change ? I would have liked to seen how well the Vols would have done under CHW with healthy players


and yes armchair, I think Coach Summitt would be kicking some ass as a new coach these days
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ivyleague said:
Well, this is one of the most ignorant things I've read on here. What you don't realize is the reason you think (incorrectly) that she is "going nowhere" is exactly WHY she deserves to be the head coach of this program. She's obviously exactly where she wants to be, doing something she loves, in a place she loves, and doing a damn good job at it. People are paid based on performance, not loyalty and not whether they would stay in a job anyway regardless of pay. The fact is, Holly is the most successful head coach at UT at this point. If you don't like that fact, too damn bad.
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Not meant to embarrass Holly supporters with the reposts - just amazed at the level of unabashed support for her as late as last fall (after the recruiting fiasco).
 
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