Holly Warlick should step down after this season

[Ace]

Try 15 years. Offensive execution has been the achilles hill of this program going back to 2000. Pat knew it to as she sought the advice of current Villanova head coach Harry Perretta on how to run the motion offense. Clearly none of that took hold in the program.

Sometimes when you have been around as long as Holly has (and Pat for the years before Holly) the older you are the harder it is to change and adapt. Pat was always defense and rebounding..its just who she is. Offensive schemes were never her thing.

Pat willed her teams to wins. She also had the fear of the officials until her last 5 years. I am not saying they cheated for her, but they did listened and feared her.

Holly has neither attribute. She is VFL, but the last 3-4 years show that she is unable to push the players to reach their potential.

 

[Sandvol]

At noon Tuesday press conference, Dave Hart gave a glowing affirmation that he thinks Holly is the right person for the job.
You can probably watch it on utsports.com

All the regular posters here realize that Hart will do nothing about Holly. He couldn't care less about women's sports. He is an extension of the attitude of Cheeks, DiPietro, and the BOT.

 

[VOLup2uous]

I said it last year and again this year on fb and was informed they needed time to mesh.. My reply back was, I guess meshing in Chattanooga since they are south of Knoxville happens before it happens in Knoxville... This was after UT Chattanooga played us so close.. I knew if these lower tiered teams played us so tough, when we played a ranked team we would be in trouble.. I personally believe she has been lucky to have the seasons she has had.. Don't think this season's outcome will be so bright..

 

[Volle]

I've voiced my disapproval of Holly as head coach (was perfect as Coach Summitt's assistant because she was a great buffer for the players)...

Folks, Holly is here to stay for at least two more years, to serve Hart's over-inflated ego if nothing else. He took a lot of criticism for the way he forced Pat out (no matter what you may hear or read to the contrary), so he has much invested in the hire of Warlick. And he actually likes Holly.

No matter who our AD is at the time, Tyler Summitt will be the next head coach! Fact. Give him a couple more years to get some HC experience, then he'll be ready to lead us back to glory, and he'll be home and more able to watch over his mother's situation. It's meant to be. And it will be deserved not just for his birth rights, but his ability, drive and charisma. Don't underestimate the latter. It's vital in a sport which needs all the help it can get to draw attention. Tyler already has more national news attention and media interest in the last two years than Holly has had in a 30+ year career.

Agree with this post... Holly will be here two more years at least, Dave Hart is slow to pull the trigger, should've dumped Dooley in year-3.

My positive thought is Holly's teams always start slow as if she is experimenting with team chemistry. I think she has a shot at winning the SEC this year if the team gels and Diamond has a MVP type year.

Negative thought is that Holly just doesn't have the demeanor of a HC... it's apparent in her press conferences, she just doesn't project as an authoritative figure, and I suspect the players tune her out.

I wish she would resign at the end of the year, and ride her Harley gracefully into the sunset, but when so much money is involved, it's hard to induce coaches to resign these days. So I suspect Hart will let her stay another year to avoid a buyout or payment of the 4th year on termination, whatever the contract says.

 

[brassie]

"Try 15 years. Offensive execution has been the achilles hill of this program going back to 2000"

NCAA Stats don't support that. If you look at UT's scoring offense ranking going back 10 years, except for the year after Parker left (39th) the offense has always been in the top 20. The team's offense ranked 4th in D1 at the end of Warlick's 1st year. Since then it appears to be in a free fall.

Average scoring offense

2005/6 to 2012/13 - 14th
2012/13 - 4th
2013/14 - 24th
2014/15 - 47th
Current - 139th

 

[WVU05UT09]

"Try 15 years. Offensive execution has been the achilles hill of this program going back to 2000"

NCAA Stats don't support that. If you look at UT's scoring offense ranking going back 10 years, except for the year after Parker left (39th) the offense has always been in the top 20. The team's offense ranked 4th in D1 at the end of Warlick's 1st year. Since then it appears to be in a free fall.

Average scoring offense

2005/6 to 2012/13 - 14th
2012/13 - 4th
2013/14 - 24th
2014/15 - 47th
Current - 139th

Looking at ranking is too simple. That's like looking at the Coaches and AP Top 25 and saying for instance oh South Carolina is #2 therefore they are just a notch below #1 UConn when we all know there is a gap the size of the Atlantic Ocean between the two.

Its a look and feel test for me. In fairness to the Lady Vols no one except Notre Dame and UConn have really mastered the passing-motion offense scheme so its no surprise we are still pretty high in the rankings based on talent alone.

 

[teacherdean]

First off:
She is a great person with a charming personality.
She has shown great loyalty to UT. True VFL.
Local girl at Bearden that grew into great player at UT then wonderful recruiter and assistant to Pat.
I really, really have wanted her to succeed now as head coach.
But, when I take off my orange colored glasses and put my personal feelings for Holly aside, I have big concerns.

Seems we have missed out in some big recruiting battles and we just aren't developing and gelling what we have.
I really thought going into this year that we finally had Final Four type talent again.
If we do, we certainly haven't looked like it yet this year.
I know we are still experimenting with rotations and maybe that's the biggest problem . I hope so.
Frustrated LVfan. :ermm:

I agree with you. Many LV fans are not necessarily anti Holly as a person, most of us were elated to see her become Captain of the ship. However, many of us do not really see the program headed in the direction of the top five college women's basketball programs. Now you can call us Chicken Little, spoiled or that we are expecting too much, that is your prerogative. If wanting your program to be one of the elite, wanting five stars to play like five stars, wanting a coach that is seldom out coached, and wanting a team that plays offense as well as they play defense, makes us all those names then so be it.

I for one would love to see Holly turn this program around and bring out the potential of every player. I DO NOT WANT HOLLY TO FAIL.

 

[photovol]

Will the Lady Vols ever compete with UConn under Warlick, I'd have to say never ever

 

[Darth_Vol]

"Try 15 years. Offensive execution has been the achilles hill of this program going back to 2000"

NCAA Stats don't support that. If you look at UT's scoring offense ranking going back 10 years, except for the year after Parker left (39th) the offense has always been in the top 20. The team's offense ranked 4th in D1 at the end of Warlick's 1st year. Since then it appears to be in a free fall.

Great stuff! Pretty telling of Holly's development (or lack thereof) as a head coach in getting "her players" and putting "her system" into place and the direction this program is trending.

I know Pat wasn't perfect and her offenses often weren't a thing of beauty, but she was a much better X and O's tactition than many (including here) give her credit for...

 

[teacherdean]

Try 15 years. Offensive execution has been the achilles hill of this program going back to 2000. Pat knew it to as she sought the advice of current Villanova head coach Harry Perretta on how to run the motion offense. Clearly none of that took hold in the program.

Sometimes when you have been around as long as Holly has (and Pat for the years before Holly) the older you are the harder it is to change and adapt. Pat was always defense and rebounding..its just who she is. Offensive schemes were never her thing.

You are so right, even Stanford realized their pound it in the middle offense was obsolete and is trying to put in the motion offense. It is sad that we are so committed to an offense that is outdated. If Holly was a smart coach she would realize that. It is just sad that we have the players to run the motion offense and no one to teach them.

 

[teacherdean]

Agree with this post... Holly will be here two more years at least, Dave Hart is slow to pull the trigger, should've dumped Dooley in year-3.

My positive thought is Holly's teams always start slow as if she is experimenting with team chemistry. I think she has a shot at winning the SEC this year if the team gels and Diamond has a MVP type year.

Negative thought is that Holly just doesn't have the demeanor of a HC... it's apparent in her press conferences, she just doesn't project as an authoritative figure, and I suspect the players tune her out.

I wish she would resign at the end of the year, and ride her Harley gracefully into the sunset, but when so much money is involved, it's hard to induce coaches to resign these days. So I suspect Hart will let her stay another year to avoid a buyout or payment of the 4th year on termination, whatever the contract says.

If fans thinks Holly has an awful demeanor at press conference think about how she come across to recruits and their families. Nothing about Holly says saleswomen, and that is what recruiting is all about, selling yourself and your program.

 

[brassie]

You are so right, even Stanford realized their pound it in the middle offense was obsolete and is trying to put in the motion offense. It is sad that we are so committed to an offense that is outdated. If Holly was a smart coach she would realize that. It is just sad that we have the players to run the motion offense and no one to teach them.

VabDerveer played a triangle offense which is more sophisticated than "pound it in the paint." It requires reading the defense, movement of the ball and player movement. Now that she doesn't have the horses for a post oriented offense she has been forced to change the Cardinal offensive strategy.

 

[Martic]

Will the Lady Vols ever compete with UConn under Warlick, I'd have to say never ever

alas They barely did under Pat. Now they are miles apart!!

 

[Franklin Pierce]

This Lady Vols message board has - AGAIN - been taken over by UCONN HUSKIES FANS.

 

[Volfan2012]

Will the Lady Vols ever compete with UConn under Warlick, I'd have to say never ever

Were having trouble competing with Albany, Chattanooga, and Syracuse and we are the home team. UConn squashes those teams.

 

[brassie]

Looking at ranking is too simple. That's like looking at the Coaches and AP Top 25 and saying for instance oh South Carolina is #2 therefore they are just a notch below #1 UConn when we all know there is a gap the size of the Atlantic Ocean between the two.

Its a look and feel test for me. In fairness to the Lady Vols no one except Notre Dame and UConn have really mastered the passing-motion offense scheme so its no surprise we are still pretty high in the rankings based on talent alone.

Harry Perretta comes to mind. I'm sure there are others He has done well with it considering the limited talent pool that can recruit from.

The NCAA stats weren't intended as comparative. I used them to illustrate the trend in offense, particularly during Warlick's tenure. The numbers indicate that UT's offense was reasonably stable relative to other D1 teams until recently.

 

[Franklin Pierce]

Hey, UCONN fans. You play tonight on Fox Sports 1 at Depaul. How many points will UCONN win by?

 

[Martic]

This Lady Vols message board has - AGAIN - been taken over by UCONN HUSKIES FANS.

Not a huskie fan at all, as hard as it is just facing the fact my friend. I thought we has a chance to compete with them this year and after watching part of their(ucon) dismantling of Ohio State and our first real game I knew we were in trouble. There was no talk of them having to gel and excuses like we seem to use. I just don't understand how they from the start come out looking so good and we look so horrible?

 

[Darth_Vol]

This Lady Vols message board has - AGAIN - been taken over by UCONN HUSKIES FANS.

The goal at Tennessee every year is to win the National Championship (or at least it used to be). Right now, whether you like it or not, that goal is synonymous with beating UConn. Ergo, UConn will get discussed often.

You follow?

 

[cwbytruckers]

UCONN UCONN UCONN..... Tennessee is the Jan Brady to UCONN these days.

 

[Silence Dogood]

UCONN would beat the Philadelphia 76's, and it wouldn't be close. UCONN would also beat all of the WNBA teams.

That's just how dominant the HUSKIES are.

 

[brassie]

UCONN would beat the Philadelphia 76's, and it wouldn't be close. UCONN would also beat all of the WNBA teams.

That's just how dominant the HUSKIES are.

UConn probably couldn't score against the 6ers and I seriously doubt that they could beat any WNBA team though they might give San Antonio a game.

 

[Sandvol]

UConn wouldn't beat most good boys high school teams.

 

[BMvol27]

UCONN would beat the Philadelphia 76's, and it wouldn't be close. UCONN would also beat all of the WNBA teams.

That's just how dominant the HUSKIES are.

That's an incredibly stupid comment. No WNBA player is even close to being good enough to play in the NBA, let alone a college player. They can't compete with the size, strength, athleticism, and physicality of an NBA team.
And they certainly could not beat a WNBA team. How many UConn players are stars as soon as they come into the WNBA? Very few. The difference between the college game and the WNBA is huge.

 

[volnationnj]

UCONN would beat the Philadelphia 76's, and it wouldn't be close. UCONN would also beat all of the WNBA teams.

That's just how dominant the HUSKIES are.

It looks to me like a troll post. If you're serious, you need to change medications because something is clouding your judgement.