Honest opinion on Selby...

#51
#51
Coaching and winning a tourney is the same no matter where you are. The USA dream team was beaten by GREECE 2 years ago. Coaching, competition, and winning is intense no matter where you are. Coaching a tourny was good for CBP.

Selby never knew whose junk he wanted to ride anyways. If we play him one day, I can't wait to see how many times he turns it over to UT's full court press

Your belief that coaching in and winning a tourney is, "the same no matter where you are", is nearly as nonsensical as your comparing the Macabee and Olympic Games.

Like BP, Coach K's position as HC of Team USA undoubtedly required some of his time and attention away from the Duke program. However, the resulting benefits which such provided to their respective programs is, by any measure, incomparable.

Coach K's service allows him the advantage of telling potential recruits that he is the only current college coach who has not only coached both Kobe and LeBron, but then lead these players to Olympic gold, and restored USA Basketball to its rightful place at the apex of the basketball world. His efforts were not only universally admired and appreciated by fellow coaches and players, but of most basketball fans across the country. It's unthinkable to believe that such wouldn't both continue and carry over to his continued work with the Duke program, at least in some regard.

Conversely, the diversion of BP's time and attention for the Maccabi Games not only failed to produce similar benefits to the Tennessee program, but in losing Selby, may even have caused it harm, both now and in the foreseeable future.

Of course, all of this is said without mention of how ill-equipped Tennessee's program is to support such a lack of attention at a critical time, regardless as to the reason(s) why it occurred. The Duke program is better able to sustain its prominence and competitive advantages despite missing out on any ten or twenty highly-rated recruits. Conversely, the loss of even a single highly-rated recruit is a critical set-back to Tennessee's program as it continues to seek similar prominence.

BP had to appreciate the importance of landing Selby, both for this team, and the program. As a program, you need to be able to show yourself capable of landing these types of players (see: Brown, Bryce) if you hope to land others. Secondly, as the greatest criticism of BP and the Tennessee program seems to be our inability to advance deep into March, you've got to know how critical a PG will be in breaking that glass ceiling, or simply how pressing of a need it is for this team, otherwise. Simply, the chances of Tennessee taking a step (or two?) deeper into March will be the only means of silencing the small (but growing) number of BP's critics, and the chances of each of those occuring are far better with Selby, than without.

That BP chose to go halfway around the world to coach in a tournament with less talent, media attention and general prestige than that which the Rocky Top League enjoys, is unimportant to most. However, choosing to do this instead of attending the event where Selby was participating - which was sponsored by a rival shoe company, attended by 100+ other schools looking to sign him, and in close proximity to Coach Cal's homosexual lover / life partner (World Wide Wes) - appears foolishly negligent at best, and indefensibly selfish, at worst.

It's ironic that the BP-lovers are those who are most readily rushing to his defense - because it is you who should be most disappointed. His actions have not only ruined your best chance to combat and silence his critic, but worse, it has given them momentum, and grown their numbers.

If, like me, you've grown sick of hearing Tajh Boyd's name invoked throughout Tennessee's many struggles to land a top-flight QB - wait until you've heard the one millionth reference as to how BP lost Selby, and the difference that it would have made to this season, and those which follow. Some of you will be best served by simply cancelling your internet service before the tourneys begin.
 
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#53
#53
Your belief that coaching in and winning a tourney is, "the same no matter where you are", is nearly as nonsensical as your comparing the Macabee and Olympic Games.

Like BP, Coach K's position as HC of Team USA undoubtedly required some of his time and attention away from the Duke program. However, the resulting benefits which such provided to their respective programs is, by any measure, incomparable.

Coach K's service allows him the advantage of telling potential recruits that he is the only current college coach who has not only coached both Kobe and LeBron, but then lead these players to Olympic gold, and restored USA Basketball to its rightful place at the apex of the basketball world. His efforts were not only universally admired and appreciated by fellow coaches and players, but of most basketball fans across the country. It's unthinkable to believe that such wouldn't both continue and carry over to his continued work with the Duke program, at least in some regard.

Conversely, the diversion of BP's time and attention for the Maccabi Games not only failed to produce similar benefits to the Tennessee program, but in losing Selby, may even have caused it harm, both now and in the foreseeable future.

Of course, all of this is said without mention of how ill-equipped Tennessee's program is to support such a lack of attention at a critical time, regardless as to the reason(s) why it occurred. The Duke program is better able to sustain its prominence and competitive advantages despite missing out on any ten or twenty highly-rated recruits. Conversely, the loss of even a single highly-rated recruit is a critical set-back to Tennessee's program as it continues to seek similar prominence.

BP had to appreciate the importance of landing Selby, both for this team, and the program. As a program, you need to be able to show yourself capable of landing these types of players (see: Brown, Bryce) if you hope to land others. Secondly, as the greatest criticism of BP and the Tennessee program seems to be our inability to advance deep into March, you've got to know how critical a PG will be in breaking that glass ceiling, or simply how pressing of a need it is for this team, otherwise. Simply, the chances of Tennessee taking a step (or two?) deeper into March will be the only means of silencing the small (but growing) number of BP's critics, and the chances of each of those occuring are far better with Selby, than without.

That BP chose to go halfway around the world to coach in a tournament with less talent, media attention and general prestige than that which the Rocky Top League enjoys, is unimportant to most. However, choosing to do this instead of attending the event where Selby was participating - which was sponsored by a rival shoe company, attended by 100+ other schools looking to sign him, and in close proximity to Coach Cal's homosexual lover / life partner (World Wide Wes) - appears foolishly negligent at best, and indefensibly selfish, at worst.

It's ironic that the BP-lovers are those who are most readily rushing to his defense - because it is you who should be most disappointed. His actions have not only ruined your best chance to combat and silence his critic, but worse, it has given them momentum, and grown their numbers.


If, like me, you've grown sick of hearing Tajh Boyd's name invoked throughout Tennessee's many struggles to land a top-flight QB - wait until you've heard the one millionth reference as to how BP lost Selby, and the difference that it would have made to this season, and those which follow. Some of you will be best served by simply cancelling your internet service before the tourneys begin.

That is exactly right. I am a BP fan, but in no way can I act like losing Selby is anything but negative.
 
#54
#54
The championships was dead wrong and the piece about his staff was almost funny. As far as getting the program to new heights, he is essentially where Jerry Green was but added a 1 week stint as #1. Anything else?
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Did Jerry Green have a winning record in the NCAA tourney at UT? Not saying CBP is definitely the answer for UT, but saying CBP = CJG is idiotic at best.
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#55
#55
Did Jerry Green have a winning record in the NCAA tourney at UT? Not saying CBP is definitely the answer for UT, but saying CBP = CJG is idiotic at best.
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I would consider myself a Pearl fan, but this is a pretty lame argument in that all you have to do to avoid a losing record in the NCAAT is average one win per appearance. To me, there isn't much difference between losing in the first round as opposed to the second round.

And losing Selby hurts bigtime. No way to sugarcoat it. The damage could be mitigated by landing Jackson, but I'm 99% sure he's going to Tiger High.
 
#56
#56
I would consider myself a Pearl fan, but this is a pretty lame argument in that all you have to do to avoid a losing record in the NCAAT is average one win per appearance. To me, there isn't much difference between losing in the first round as opposed to the second round.

And losing Selby hurts bigtime. No way to sugarcoat it. The damage could be mitigated by landing Jackson, but I'm 99% sure he's going to Tiger High.

Not a lame argument - all I was pointing out was that CBP > CJG. I want more from Pearl too, but it gets ridiculous when the anti- Pearl crowd throws him in with horrible coaches. Also, any winning record in the NCAAs implies Sweet Sixteen appearance(s).
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#57
#57
Green got us to 4 straight NCAATs, and the Sweet 16. Regardless of W-L record, Pearl has done no better yet. Plus Pearl has had 2 #2 seeds that he couldn't get any further. Yeah, Green sucked but the fact is Pearl has taken us just as far in the same time frame.
 
#58
#58
Green got us to 4 straight NCAATs, and the Sweet 16. Regardless of W-L record, Pearl has done no better yet. Plus Pearl has had 2 #2 seeds that he couldn't get any further. Yeah, Green sucked but the fact is Pearl has taken us just as far in the same time frame.

I think you are certainly not taking into account the clearly different situations that Green and Pearl inherited.
 
#59
#59
I think you are certainly not taking into account the clearly different situations that Green and Pearl inherited.

neither one took over loaded teams. By their records JG inherited less than BP did (although KO did leave it in better shape).
 
#60
#60
neither one took over loaded teams. By their records JG inherited less than BP did (although KO did leave it in better shape).
Jerry Green inherited a team a competent coach could have reached the Final Four with.
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#62
#62
Did Jerry Green have a winning record in the NCAA tourney at UT? Not saying CBP is definitely the answer for UT, but saying CBP = CJG is idiotic at best.
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Actually comprehending what you read would help you avoid such silliness.
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#63
#63
I think you are certainly not taking into account the clearly different situations that Green and Pearl inherited.

I'll grant you Green inherited a better situation, but Pearl wasn't exactly inheriting what O'Neil did. What Pearl did with that first team was great but it also proved to me how utterly pathetic Peterson was. Peterson's cupboard wasn't even close to being bare when he came on board and he had enough talent to make the NCAAT. He should have made it at least 2 if not 3 of his seasons.
 
#64
#64
Actually comprehending what you read would help you avoid such silliness.
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I see what you're saying. But I still think that this year under Pearl will be better than a 5th year of Jerry Green. Unfortunately, Pearl's 6th year may be comparable if things don't change.
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