Honestly, ready for some roster turnover

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WaywardVol said:
The team needed the seniors and they all disappeared again. No urgency, and no attempt to drive and draw contact. I don’t know how much the problem is personnel or Barne’s offense.
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Yep. I said it before the game. This is a flawed roster...and that was with ZZ. WIthout him, it's a miracle we made the sweet 16. After the Duke win and when I saw our opponent would be the winner of FAU, FDU, any long time UT fan could see what was coming. If we lost this game to purdue instead of FAU, fans wouldn't be so upset, but really, we always seem to find a cinderella on our side of a bracket....or at least is seems that way of late. If someone had told us that we would make the sweet 16 with this team, everyone would have taken it. They over achieved and won a good many games against some very good teams. I'm hoping JJJ didn't rub off on Phillips with his disappearing acts and that we can now focus on the portal and get some serious help for next season. Nothing against the seniors. Appreciate the great times and wish 'em well, but I'm looking forward to the next generation.
 
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D3Athlete said:
Dj Jefferson and Bj Edwards will get more run next year, then add Carr, Dillione, Estrella, and Philips. ZZ returns from injury. Return the pieces that we know are coming back. The athleticism on next year’a team will probably be the best Rick Barnes has had.
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But can any of them shoot a basketball With any consistency? Or more athletes with no basketball IQ?
 
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CAVPUT said:
Yep. I said it before the game. This is a flawed roster...and that was with ZZ. WIthout him, it's a miracle we made the sweet 16. After the Duke win and when I saw our opponent would be the winner of FAU, FDU, any long time UT fan could see what was coming. If we lost this game to purdue instead of FAU, fans wouldn't be so upset, but really, we always seem to find a cinderella on our side of a bracket....or at least is seems that way of late. If someone had told us that we would make the sweet 16 with this team, everyone would have taken it. They over achieved and won a good many games against some very good teams. I'm hoping JJJ didn't rub off on Phillips with his disappearing acts and that we can now focus on the portal and get some serious help for next season. Nothing against the seniors. Appreciate the great times and wish 'em well, but I'm looking forward to the next generation.
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Agree with the over achieving. Hard to win without a single “go to” player that can get a bucket when needed.
 
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We need to hit the transfer portal pretty hard this off season but so far at least we are actually going after legit talent

Three players I'm aware of that we have targeted

Demarcus Sharp: 19 ppg. Unfortunately he's already committed. Austin Peay bound


Graham Ike: 19.5 ppg. Big name. Tennessee has joined in on the sweepstakes to get him


Dayvian McKnight. 16.6 ppg.

This is a good start so far
 
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Would love to see Vescovi playing in an offense with some guys that could shoot and take the ball to the goal. He could light it up. His game is not built to handle being the only guy out there yet he still could hold his on.
 
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I made a comment a few weeks back, and was tagged a “ dumb fan” maybe I am but stand by my original statement. JJJ and ON are just not good enough or consistent to play basketball. Not with any degree of success. Good players show up for big games, they mostly disappear during these games. Plavsic is just a hack man, which has a place on a team, but he doesn’t possess enough basketball smarts to make him serviceable. Kinda like cornbreads players, need to weed some out
 
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One of the more sadder things that come to my mind is how horrible Key was here at Tennessee, his home state

I remember before the season started, we beat Gonzaga in a closed scrimmage and Jon Rothenstein told everyone to buy stock in Key because he scored 20 on the Zags.... boy was it down hill from there or what.

He had the most wackiest style of play I have ever seen from a guard. He would try to back someone up in the paint like he's a big?

The other sad thing that sticks out to me is when JJJ first committed to Tennessee. I remember he was trying to get Grant to stay. He told him "Let's win a national championship "

Bitter sweet memories from this gang. Did a lot of good things over the years, but not much in post season play.
 
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Butch s said:
I made a comment a few weeks back, and was tagged a “ dumb fan” maybe I am but stand by my original statement. JJJ and ON are just not good enough or consistent to play basketball. Not with any degree of success. Good players show up for big games, they mostly disappear during these games. Plavsic is just a hack man, which has a place on a team, but he doesn’t possess enough basketball smarts to make him serviceable. Kinda like cornbreads players, need to weed some out
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Well said
 
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jaguinn5 said:
I'll get roasted for this (again), but the roster is not the whole issue here. Unless Barnes decides to evolve his coaching philosophy on offense, its just going to be more trying to fit square pegs into round holes by forcing players to fit "his system" on offense, rather than shaping his offensive system around his players' strengths.
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Offense has to change. Analytics have changed all sports for good reason. Most NBA teams either take point blank shots or shoot 3's, as do teams like Bama - those shots are way more efficient - we shoot low percentage mid range shots and we're not very good at shooting, period.

I don't know who drive to the basket on this roster except ZZ, but something has to change on the offensive end and *I think* it can happen with our current make-up.
 
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Tn is a very good team as long as the officials swallow their whistle but that didn't seem to be the case last night, those florida guys were very good at flopping.
 
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Vols till I fall said:
One of the more sadder things that come to my mind is how horrible Key was here at Tennessee, his home state

I remember before the season started, we beat Gonzaga in a closed scrimmage and Jon Rothenstein told everyone to buy stock in Key because he scored 20 on the Zags.... boy was it down hill from there or what.

He had the most wackiest style of play I have ever seen from a guard. He would try to back someone up in the paint like he's a big?

The other sad thing that sticks out to me is when JJJ first committed to Tennessee. I remember he was trying to get Grant to stay. He told him "Let's win a national championship "

Bitter sweet memories from this gang. Did a lot of good things over the years, but not much in post season play.
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I'll have to eat crow on Key as well. I really thought he'd be a tough, physical guard who could be an x factor on this years team. I was totally wrong about him.
 
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The only two I am tired of are JJJ and Olivier. They both have to much talent to so inconsistent. JJJ should be taking it to the hoop with smaller guys guarding him instead of bricking 3's. They count on them to score and they just disappear.
 
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Pmarav23 said:
The only two I am tired of are JJJ and Olivier. They both have to much talent to so inconsistent. JJJ should be taking it to the hoop with smaller guys guarding him instead of bricking 3's. They count on them to score and they just disappear.
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3 times ON spun from 5' in the paint and do 12' Kobe/Michael fall away jumpers that all clanked off iron ... VS A 6-4' 190# POST PLAYER/WING!!! You cannot justify this for a SR post player who looks like Tarzan from all that time in the weight room. We had huge size strength advantage ... but a bigger mental disadvantage!
 
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volforlife15 said:
Do we actually have weapons? We thought Phillips was going to be a weapon and the offense forces him into a shell. Barnes has to be willing to change the offensive philosophy if he wants to have weapons
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I guess Schofield, Williams, Bone and Bowden wern’t weapons. Led the league in offense when they were here. Barnes knows how to coach offense. The problem is these guys are not good offensive players. Also the point guard was out which made a huge difference. A valid criticism in this instance would be his recruitment. That is not to say he did not try to get better offensive players and couldn’t.
 
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Boomer78 said:
But can any of them shoot a basketball With any consistency? Or more athletes with no basketball IQ?
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Carr is a shooter. What he does. Estrella 6”11 with ability to stretch the floor. Watch Dillione in person, he is a driver. 3 point shoot ain’t bad either
 
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Need to hit the portal now and find another PG who can come in from the start of the season and contribute. While I hope Zakai rehabs well from the ACL, it is a serious injury so we need someone else to play minutes at that position. I don't see how Julian should consider the NBA as he's not close to being ready. I'd hope he get in some serious work on his game as we need him to score next year. Be nice to see us get another scoring option from the portal who can add something to the offense.
 
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#100
knoxvol52 said:
Okay Paul Westphal the days of Loyola Marymount are over
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Obviously the day of defense is dead too. Gets you twenty wins and then bounced from the tournament. Offense will always beat defense when it matters most. Top 20 offense and mid tier defense and we’re still playing more than likely.
 
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