Hopson dropping

#28
#28
BasketVolKid said:
some of those weaknesses were caused by and then exploited by the severe lack of a half-court offense under pearl. scotty has alot of upside... which might be enough for a GM to give him a shot this year. if he'd maintained that late sec stretch of consistency he'd probably be a first rounder.

i'm sure he doesn't realize what playing 36-38 minutes a game in a real half-court offense under CCM might do for his nba stock... and learning to dribble of course.
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A ballplayer with pro aspirations shouldn't have handling issues. That's on the player.
 
#29
#29
Vercingetorix said:
In fairness to Hopson, this was true of everybody else on the team, too. Presumably that's the way Pearl wanted it done.
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Do you honestly think this was the case? Im all for not bashing scotty but i'm calling bs on this excuse.
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#30
#30
Bassmanbruno said:
It's been 3 years - he obviously has some issues that aren't going to be fixed while he's here and may not ever - his draft stock - as low as it may be won't be getting any higher.. he might as well go and play in Europe so no reason to bash him.
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All the more reason to show that he can learn under a new coach and get a degree...
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#31
#31
jewishreggae said:
They really don't talk that well of Scotty. His strengths are about half as long as his weaknesses.

Weaknesses: Must add bulk to his frame ... Was easily knocked off balance on drives to the hoop last season and, despite a quick first step, had difficulty shedding defenders when closely guarded ... Does not currently possess the strength to finish in traffic ... His game is marked by passivity ... Attempted under two free throw attempts per contest ... Too often stands behind the three point line, feet locked to the ground, with his hands out ... Does not make a concerted effort to move without the ball or get open ... Half of his field goal attempts came from distance ... Ball handling is quite questionable ... Very rarely attempts a drive from the three point line to the basket ... Does not create offense for others ... His offensive game lacks imagination and is very predictable and one dimensional at this stage ... His three key areas for improvement: strength, ball handling and aggression, all go hand in hand ... Has worked hard to lower the exceedingly high arch on his jumper which placed restraints on his consistency ... Needs to become more active on the glass where he averaged under 3 boards as a freshman ... Does not battle for position ... Needs to find the fire and desire to compete on defense when his energy level is too low.
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to sum all this up.....he's very LAZY.
 
#32
#32
jp1 said:
Do you honestly think this was the case? Im all for not bashing scotty but i'm calling bs on this excuse.
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Sarcasm, obviously.

Remember when the TV announcer said (during the first Vandy game, I think) that our guys were standing around on offense so much that he couldn't tell if the other team was playing man or zone?
 
#33
#33
Vercingetorix said:
Sarcasm, obviously.

Remember when the TV announcer said (during the first Vandy game, I think) that our guys were standing around on offense so much that he couldn't tell if the other team was playing man or zone?
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I agree that they all stood around..just missed the sarcasm part...my bad.
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#34
#34
I thought Hopson took a step forward last year, but he remains lazy and soft. He lacks intensity and needs major work on his ball-handling, though it is slowly improving. He could benefit significantly from another YEAR if he committed to work hard on his game, but not sure he will....Harris would also benefit from one more year--I'm not sure where he is projected now--20 or higher but he could easily be a top 10 or top 5 pick with another season of hard work.
 
#36
#36
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"Well, bye."
 
#37
#37
the_great_pumpkin said:
to sum all this up.....he's very LAZY.
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I don't know how fair it is for us to sit in the stands or watch on TV and declare that he's just lazy like it's a character flaw. Effort isn't just an inborn trait; it's a skill (or habit, at least) that you have to develop just like any other. I don't really know much about his high school/AAU career, but he strikes me as someone who's so supremely athletically gifted that the game has always been effortless for him, and he's never been put in a situation where's been forced to learn to work hard at it. So he didn't.
 
#38
#38
I feel like there is an echo on this bored with the "I hope he's taking foreign language classes he's going to need them". I know he seems "unmotivated" at times, but the kids a vol so support him. He is getting a chance of lifetime and living up his dream. You sound like a bunch of UK fans...this is Volnation not kittycatpause!
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#40
#40
CardassianVol said:
All the more reason to show that he can learn under a new coach and get a degree...
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why would he need a degree? He's atleast going to play in Europe and make tons more than he could ever make with his, more than likely, stereotypical athlete degree that won't get you far. His draft stock is the highest it will be - a weak draft - he's had 3 years.. he's not going to improve in most of those areas.. same situation as Tyler Smith.. it wasn't like Tyler was magically going to find his 3 point shot when coming back 2 years in a row after being 20+ years old.
 
#41
#41
MikeHamiltonFan said:
But but...he is the best athlete in the draft.
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He may well be. It's kind of sad to think about how phenomenal he could be if he'd ever had a coach at any level who kicked his ass and made him work hard on defense and drilled him into to the ground to improve his weak ballhanding skills.
 
#42
#42
Dear Hopson,

To play in the NBA you will need to come back for your SENIOR year (amazing we're still talking about this) and learn to do the following (in order of importance):

1. Play defense
2. Dribble
3. Hustle at all times
4. Rebound better at your position
5. Increase your assist/turnover ratio
6. Toughen up / Stop wincing and grabbing at yourself every time you take a little contact in the lane
7. Stop sulking anytime things aren't going exactly your way

You have a solid jumper, natural quickness and ability to score in bunches. But you also disappear sometimes when your team needs you (along with the items listed above).

Do yourself a favor. Every time you hear someone else jumping into the draft, that is just another reason for you not to be in it this year. If Tobias is practicing with the team right now, so should you be. Period. He's better than you as a freshman and is guaranteed to be drafted higher than you whether it's this year or next.

There's no reason, with HARD WORK in the offseason, that you can't average 20 pts and 6 rebounds next year at UT. Then, and only then, will you MAYBE be ready for the NBA.

And remember, just because you play in the NBA summer league... doesn't mean you played in the NBA. That's where you're headed right now.

-Bam
 
#44
#44
I would really enjoy the scenario in the OP if it came to fruition. Spurs have a nice track record of turning second round picks into studs.
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#45
#45
MrBamSeydu said:
Dear Hopson,

To play in the NBA you will need to come back for your SENIOR year (amazing we're still talking about this) and learn to do the following (in order of importance):

1. Play defense
2. Dribble
3. Hustle at all times
4. Rebound better at your position
5. Increase your assist/turnover ratio
6. Toughen up / Stop wincing and grabbing at yourself every time you take a little contact in the lane
7. Stop sulking anytime things aren't going exactly your way

You have a solid jumper, natural quickness and ability to score in bunches. But you also disappear sometimes when your team needs you (along with the items listed above).

Do yourself a favor. Every time you hear someone else jumping into the draft, that is just another reason for you not to be in it this year. If Tobias is practicing with the team right now, so should you be. Period. He's better than you as a freshman and is guaranteed to be drafted higher than you whether it's this year or next.

There's no reason, with HARD WORK in the offseason, that you can't average 20 pts and 6 rebounds next year at UT. Then, and only then, will you MAYBE be ready for the NBA.

And remember, just because you play in the NBA summer league... doesn't mean you played in the NBA. That's where you're headed right now.

-Bam
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Yes. This was well said.
 
#47
#47
Bassmanbruno said:
why would he need a degree? He's atleast going to play in Europe and make tons more than he could ever make with his, more than likely, stereotypical athlete degree that won't get you far. His draft stock is the highest it will be - a weak draft - he's had 3 years.. he's not going to improve in most of those areas.. same situation as Tyler Smith.. it wasn't like Tyler was magically going to find his 3 point shot when coming back 2 years in a row after being 20+ years old.
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As usual, in depends on the situation. There are certainly situations where some players do not have much benefit in coming back for another year of college. It depends on what part of their game is weak. I dont see how you can lump Scotty into that category. He is nowhere near his ceiling. He has very concrete weaknesses that CAN BE IMPROVED and developed in a year under a coach that will push him.
 
#48
#48
Scotty's ego has always been bigger than his game, and these stupid mock drafts are stroking his ego like crazy and he's loving it. hate to say it but the boy is gunna go and end up in Europe within a year.
 
#49
#49
orangepeopleeater said:
Granted these mock drafts are not worth much, but is it a sign that Hopson has dropped from the mid-40's to the Spurs at pick 60 .... the last player expected taken. Is the players in the second round even guaranteed a contract?
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I think that it's a sign that Hopson needs to return to school and improve his draft stock. He's too good of a player to hit the wall in the NBA.
 
#50
#50
bigsteve13 said:
Scotty's ego has always been bigger than his game, and these stupid mock drafts are stroking his ego like crazy and he's loving it. hate to say it but the boy is gunna go and end up in Europe within a year.
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I've voiced my displeasure with Hopson's play many times on this board. With that said, that statement is just ridiculous. You have no idea about Scotty's ego, and seeing himself picked dead last in the draft on the NBA draft sites would hardly be stroking his ego.
 
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