House Oversight Committee- Biden family money laundering & foreign shakedown thread

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BreatheUT said:
Sadly you are right. Schiff has intentionally deceived the public for years as the lead person to leak, lie and collude with the media about said lies. It wasn't even close how wrong he was, but he knew he wasn't telling the truth.
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I think he is running for Senate. The idiots will probably elect him.
 
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NurseGoodVol said:
Facts listed with sources scare you?
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Are these the sources Jordan cited who are being paid by Repub operatives or the one that Comer cited who he later said he couldn't find, or the suspended FBI agent? Those guys are another episode of Police Academy.
 
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Orangeburst said:
We saw Fox fined a massive amount of money for their lies..Why would Schiff be any different?
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Are you talking about the $797 million?

That was not a fine, it was a settlement of civil litigation where FoxNews paid the plaintiff suing them and basically admitted they lied.

You're going to tell us how the American government should be run and you don't know the difference between a fine and a settlement.
 
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WBO said:
Are you talking about the $797 million?

That was not a fine, it was a settlement of civil litigation where FoxNews paid the plaintiff suing them and basically admitted they lied.

You're going to tell us how the American government should be run and you don't know the difference between a fine and a settlement.
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You want to argue semantics?
 
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Orangeburst said:
You want to argue semantics?
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It's not semantics, it is a real difference.

Fines are based upon some governmental regulatory authority such as speeding while driving or illegal trading in the market. It is typically assessed in a criminal or quasi-criminal proceeding.

A civil litigation settlement as in the Dominion case is strictly civil and is a determination of liability between parties.

It's my understanding that trial procedures are different such as a defendant in a criminal trial can claim the 5th Amendment protections against self-incrimination without having that be used against them. With civil trials you can refuse to testify under the 5th Amendment if that could cause you criminal liability BUT it usually means your entire testimony, even with respect to matters where you did testify, will be thrown out.

Are there any attorneys in here who can verify that?

Funny part is Fox settled the case because there was more to come out at trial and Fox was terrified of that. Can't imagine a top tier trial attorney getting one of Murdock's idiot sons on the witness stand under oath. Would have been very entertaining.
 
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WBO said:
It's not semantics, it is a real difference.

Fines are based upon some governmental regulatory authority such as speeding while driving or illegal trading in the market. It is typically assessed in a criminal or quasi-criminal proceeding.

A civil litigation settlement as in the Dominion case is strictly civil and is a determination of liability between parties.

It's my understanding that trial procedures are different such as a defendant in a criminal trial can claim the 5th Amendment protections against self-incrimination without having that be used against them. With civil trials you can refuse to testify under the 5th Amendment if that could cause you criminal liability BUT it usually means your entire testimony, even with respect to matters where you did testify, will be thrown out.

Are there any attorneys in here who can verify that?

Funny part is Fox settled the case because there was more to come out at trial and Fox was terrified of that. Can't imagine a top tier trial attorney getting one of Murdock's idiot sons on the witness stand under oath. Would have been very entertaining.
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I can't believe I am even responding to this.

Fine
A penalty or forfeiture; in civil cases the fine is paid to the offended party; in criminal cases the fine is paid to the court.

Glossary of Legal Terms | Second District Court

The fine is part of the settlement. Like I said semantics.
 
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WBO said:
Are these the sources Jordan cited who are being paid by Repub operatives or the one that Comer cited who he later said he couldn't find, or the suspended FBI agent? Those guys are another episode of Police Academy.
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You didn’t read it. I knew 600+ pages was a great deal. Then you reference something that’s not even in the reading.
 
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'Why did you ask such a dumb question?' Biden Snaps at Reporter who asks him Why he's referred to as 'Big Guy' in FBI Ukraine file

President Joe Biden on Thursday snapped at a reporter who asked him why he was called 'Big Guy' by an executive of Ukrainian energy company Burisma.

The nickname was revealed in an FBI memo that Republicans claim proves Biden was at the center of a $5 million cash for influence bribery scheme when he was vice president.

DailyMail.com revealed earlier this week that the executive has also kept 17 audio recordings of phone calls with Joe and Hunter as an 'insurance policy.'

'Why did the Ukraine informant file refer to you as the Big Guy?,' the reporter asked during an event at the White House.

'Why did you ask such a dumb question?' Biden snapped back.

According to a 'highly credible' whistleblower, an internal FBI FD-1023 memo created in 2020 based on information from a well-paid informant apparently details a $5 million 'arrangement' in exchange for policy decisions between then-Vice President Joe Biden and a foreign national.

A source familiar with the case confirmed to DailyMail.com that the foreign national - an executive from Ukrainian gas company Burisma Holdings Limited - referred to Joe Biden as the 'Big Guy'.

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A Burisma executive allegedly called Joe Biden the 'Big Guy' as revealed in an FBI memo; Hunter Biden sat on Burisma's board

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Republicans led by Comer and Grassley released a report digging in on over $10 million received by Biden family members from foreign actors

In early May, Republicans led by Comer and Grassley released a report digging in on over $10 million received by Biden family members from foreign actors, including previously undisclosed $1 million in Romanian-linked payments, and a 'web' of 20 companies created while President Joe Biden was vice president and pushing anti-corruption efforts abroad.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ps-reporter-dumb-question-called-Big-Guy.html
 
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Hey goobers who believed this sh*t: First, look back a few pages, I posted instructions on how to treat blue balls; second, do you prefer your crow medium or medium rare?

 
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Vol737 said:
Define legitimate. Do you mean the news outlets that refused to acknowledge the Steele Dossier on Russian collusion that was completely manufactured and a total fraud? NBC, CNN, ABC, CBS, MSNBC, etc. go to great lengths to carry water for and not hurt Biden in anyway, which means they just simply don’t and won’t report on it. Although, many on that side are finding it harder to convince themselves that there’s nothing to Hunter’s laptop, the information on it and the involvement of Joe Biden in what is turning out to be some seriously nefarious and quite possibly criminal activity. Exactly why would they get paid $5M each by a Ukrainian oligarch that has now fled the country and cannot be found? The mental gymnastics people will go through to justify two standards of justice and application of law is astonishing.
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Legitimate in the sense it's something other than kooks like Alex Jones and is only read by right wingers in their dark basements as they still watch FoxNews swear it's unbiased.
 
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WBO said:
Legitimate in the sense it's something other than kooks like Alex Jones and is only read by right wingers in their dark basements as they still watch FoxNews swear it's unbiased.
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Just something other than those two doesn’t mean it passes the legitimate litmus test. I agree Alex Jones is off the rails and Fox is no different than the other MSM much of the time. We would do well to hold all those MSM outlets in at least mild contempt. My wife latched on to a site off Instagram (I’m not on all that social media) called Real News, No Bullsh*t. I read what she pulls up and it’s right down the middle. I’m just not inclined to expose myself to more social media. So, legitimate is out there, it’s just not what shows up on cable or the Big 3.
 
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White House Uses Opinion Writers to Combat Biden ‘Bribery’ Allegations

The White House this week used opinion writers to combat the allegations against President Joe Biden of “bribery.”

Nearly a week of silence since the allegation, Ian Sams, a spokesperson for the White House, finally tried to combat the “bribery” allegations leveled against Joe Biden by using opinion writers in the establishment media.

On Thursday, the FBI provided Congress with an FBI informant document that alleged Joe Biden accepted a $5 million bribe from a Ukrainian oligarch. According to Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA), the document also says the founder of Burisma, Mykola Zlochevsky, who allegedly paid Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden, kept 17 audio recordings of his conversations of them as an “insurance policy.”

Five days after the allegations, Sams posted his first tweet in response. He pointed to an opinion article written in the Hill by Kris Kolesnik to discredit Republican lawmakers. Kolesnik worked 10 years with the Department of the Interior’s Office of Inspector General.

“Brutal assessment by Grassley’s own former two-decade top oversight aide re: Grassley’s foray into la la land with Comer & the extreme MAGA House Republicans to attack POTUS,” Sams posted on Twitter.

“‘Why has he become so unrecognizably political?'” he quoted the article. “‘Perhaps it’s time to re-focus.'”

Sams also posted an opinion article by Washington Post‘s Philip Bump to attack Republicans over the allegations against Joe Biden.

White House Uses Opinion Writers to Combat Biden 'Bribery' Allegations
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
'Why did you ask such a dumb question?' Biden Snaps at Reporter who asks him Why he's referred to as 'Big Guy' in FBI Ukraine file

President Joe Biden on Thursday snapped at a reporter who asked him why he was called 'Big Guy' by an executive of Ukrainian energy company Burisma.

The nickname was revealed in an FBI memo that Republicans claim proves Biden was at the center of a $5 million cash for influence bribery scheme when he was vice president.

DailyMail.com revealed earlier this week that the executive has also kept 17 audio recordings of phone calls with Joe and Hunter as an 'insurance policy.'

'Why did the Ukraine informant file refer to you as the Big Guy?,' the reporter asked during an event at the White House.

'Why did you ask such a dumb question?' Biden snapped back.

According to a 'highly credible' whistleblower, an internal FBI FD-1023 memo created in 2020 based on information from a well-paid informant apparently details a $5 million 'arrangement' in exchange for policy decisions between then-Vice President Joe Biden and a foreign national.

A source familiar with the case confirmed to DailyMail.com that the foreign national - an executive from Ukrainian gas company Burisma Holdings Limited - referred to Joe Biden as the 'Big Guy'.

72057771-12200109-image-a-13_1686856219461.jpg

A Burisma executive allegedly called Joe Biden the 'Big Guy' as revealed in an FBI memo; Hunter Biden sat on Burisma's board

72057781-12187469-image-a-8_1686607877021.jpg

Republicans led by Comer and Grassley released a report digging in on over $10 million received by Biden family members from foreign actors

In early May, Republicans led by Comer and Grassley released a report digging in on over $10 million received by Biden family members from foreign actors, including previously undisclosed $1 million in Romanian-linked payments, and a 'web' of 20 companies created while President Joe Biden was vice president and pushing anti-corruption efforts abroad.

Biden snaps at reporter for 'dumb question' about being called 'Big Guy' | Daily Mail Online
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Let's all be honest. The only way you refer to anyone as The Big Guy is if you are attempting to hide an identity. Only a fool would deny this. Joe Biden is at the center of this.
 
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evillawyer said:
https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/3473837-lies-conspiracy-theories-and-the-republican-party/

https://youtube.com/shorts/b7LRSnHU2us?feature=share3
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The White House this week used opinion writers to combat the allegations against President Joe Biden of “bribery.”

Nearly a week of silence since the allegation, Ian Sams, a spokesperson for the White House, finally tried to combat the “bribery” allegations leveled against Joe Biden by using opinion writers in the establishment media.
 
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