House Oversight Committee- Biden family money laundering & foreign shakedown thread

#552
#552
hog88 said:
Not in my opinion. Asset seizure/freeze without a conviction is wrong on every level.
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You refuse to acknowledge a freeze is not seizure, that is fine when stating your views but is quite daft in reality
 
#555
#555
whodeycin85 said:
You don't support it with drug dealers or human trafficking either??
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No. What prevents a prosecutor from labeling anyone a drug dealer and freezing their assets? How do you defend yourself without access to your money?
 
#557
#557
If the IRS received a suspicious activity report on 10 million dollars being deposited into your account the Government has a responsability to investigate that report. One of the tools available to them is freezing your assets until the legality of them is determined.
 
#558
#558
hog88 said:
No. What prevents a prosecutor from labeling anyone a drug dealer and freezing their assets? How do you defend yourself without access to your money?
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Fair enough, but isn't illegally gain money evidence at that point.. So it's your phone CPU, etc can be taken if it's thought to be evidence of a crime
 
#559
#559
Caculator said:
If the IRS received a suspicious activity report on 10 million dollars being deposited into your account the Government has a responsability to investigate that report. One of the tools available to them is freezing your assets until the legality of them is determined.
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This is interesting. To whom is that 'responsibility' directed?
 
#560
#560
hog88 said:
No. What prevents a prosecutor from labeling anyone a drug dealer and freezing their assets? How do you defend yourself without access to your money?
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I agree, but that is not what we are discussing.
 
#561
#561
Caculator said:
If the IRS received a suspicious activity report on 10 million dollars being deposited into your account the Government has a responsability to investigate that report. One of the tools available to them is freezing your assets until the legality of them is determined.
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They shouldn’t have that tool.
 
#564
#564
hog88 said:
They shouldn’t have that tool.
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20 shell companies and every family member tripping a suspicious acitivity report is an instance where probable cause warrants an investigation. The tools are in place to perform a thorough investigation.
 
#566
#566
hog88 said:
They shouldn’t have that tool.
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The IRS is way too powerful as it is and Puddinhead and his thuggish administration wants to give them even more. I know several people that have had their lives turned upside down because of the IRS and primarily due to mistakes, not fraud or any attempt to deceive on their part.
 
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#568
#568
Caculator said:
20 shell companies and every family member tripping a suspicious acitivity report is an instance where probable cause warrants an investigation. The tools are in place to perform a thorough investigation.
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Well you are talking about a family that is above the law so.......
 
#569
#569
SpaceCoastVol said:
Not sure I understand that. Can you drill down on it a little more?
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IRS
When you have money you have not paid taxes on you owe the Government money. The freeze allows the IRS to determine how much, if anything, you owe.
 
#570
#570
whodeycin85 said:
Fair enough, but isn't illegally gain money evidence at that point.. So it's your phone CPU, etc can be taken if it's thought to be evidence of a crime
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Once it’s proven in a court that it’s illegally gained everything is fair game.
 
#572
#572
hog88 said:
Once it’s proven in a court that it’s illegally gained everything is fair game.
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All tools can be used backed by a warrant, which can be issued by the Courts upon petition of the investigative authorities. You don't know this?
 
#574
#574
One example is the tools used by the IRS to bring down notorious criminal Al Capone.
 
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