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#976
DinkinFlicka said:
I'd tax the church way before taxing the consolation prize for having your culture destroyed.

Way more money my way too.
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Taxing churches is a hateful, lazy talking point. Charities aren’t taxed. Country clubs aren’t taxed. Political organizations aren’t taxed.

Churches generally get their revenue from members and a vast majority of them do good work for society. They also create lots of jobs and the employees are taxed. Individuals pay most of the federal income taxes.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
Taxing churches is a hateful, lazy talking point. Charities aren’t taxed. Country clubs aren’t taxed. Political organizations aren’t taxed.

Churches generally get their revenue from members and a vast majority of them do good work for society. They also create lots of jobs and the employees are taxed. Individuals pay most of the federal income taxes.
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I think with any of them receiving a tax incentive as a church or charity have to prove that some relatively high percentage of their money actually goes towards that charitable work.

The mega churches and televangelists aren't holding up their end of the charity work relative to the money they make and should be taxed.

render unto Caesar that which is Caesars.
 
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LouderVol said:
I think with any of them receiving a tax incentive as a church or charity have to prove that some relatively high percentage of their money actually goes towards that charitable work.

The mega churches and televangelists aren't holding up their end of the charity work relative to the money they make and should be taxed.

render unto Caesar that which is Caesars.
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Planned Parenthood has the same tax treatment as churches. Should evangelizing be considered less charitable than performing abortions? How will the government judge what are the worthy causes?
 
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#979
The exempt purposes set forth in Internal Revenue Code section 501(c)(3) are charitable, religious, educational, scientific, literary, testing for public safety, fostering national or international amateur sports competition, and the prevention of cruelty to children or animals. The term charitable is used in its generally accepted legal sense and includes relief of the poor, the distressed, or the underprivileged; advancement of religion; advancement of education or science; erection or maintenance of public buildings, monuments, or works; lessening the burdens of government; lessening neighborhood tensions; eliminating prejudice and discrimination; defending human and civil rights secured by law; and combating community deterioration and juvenile delinquency.
 
#980
#980
Taxation is supposed to exist to generate revenue to operate government entities. It isn’t supposed to be to punish certain groups and people. Leftists forget the former and embrace the latter.
 
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#981
Thunder Good-Oil said:
Taxation is supposed to exist to generate revenue to operate government entities. It isn’t supposed to be to punish certain groups and people. Leftists forget the former and embrace the latter.
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but that is what it is doing. by not taxing EVERYONE equally they are punishing those they do tax with unfair/unequal burdens.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
Planned Parenthood has the same tax treatment as churches. Should evangelizing be considered less charitable than performing abortions? How will the government judge what are the worthy causes?
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PP does more than abortions. again require some percentage of their income/donations to go to acceptable behaviors that would actually qualify them.

the issue with picking and choosing abortion, is it opens the door to start carving out other groups, possibly religious.
 
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#984
Thunder Good-Oil said:
Taxing churches is a hateful, lazy talking point. Charities aren’t taxed. Country clubs aren’t taxed. Political organizations aren’t taxed.

Churches generally get their revenue from members and a vast majority of them do good work for society. They also create lots of jobs and the employees are taxed. Individuals pay most of the federal income taxes.
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Their charity work could be a deduction. You and I both know that between the megachurches and backwoods snake handlers, that there are tons of churches not doing charity work to match their tithe.

It's not a tired talking point and you know it.
 
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#988
LouderVol said:
PP does more than abortions. again require some percentage of their income/donations to go to acceptable behaviors that would actually qualify them.

the issue with picking and choosing abortion, is it opens the door to start carving out other groups, possibly religious.
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Small churches and charities don’t have the expensive lawyers and accountants to interpret costs and creatively categorize them as expenses to suit the government’s rules. Churches specifically meet the criteria by simply having services. When they also serve communities that’s added value. Abortions are quite a stretch to label as charitable use of donations.

Churches relieve a great deal of the burden that would fall to governments, so their tax status is very well deserved. A group of nuns started the national network of food banks. Locally a coalition of churches started the ones (Knoxville, Chattanooga, Tri-cities) in East Tennessee from the ground up.

Even the wealthy churches generate massive revenue for governments. The preachers and others on their payrolls are taxed. The construction companies that have built a half million churches in this country have contributed huge revenues to the government.

It’s just hateful rhetoric to call for churches to be taxed. The government doesn’t have the resources or the good and fair judgement to determine which churches are using their funds appropriately. Plus they’d also spend a fortune losing court battles over which 1st Amendment rights they’ve trampled.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
Small churches and charities don’t have the expensive lawyers and accountants to interpret costs and creatively categorize them as expenses to suit the government’s rules. Churches specifically meet the criteria by simply having services. When they also serve communities that’s added value. Abortions are quite a stretch to label as charitable use of donations.

Churches relieve a great deal of the burden that would fall to governments, so their tax status is very well deserved. A group of nuns started the national network of food banks. Locally a coalition of churches started the ones (Knoxville, Chattanooga, Tri-cities) in East Tennessee from the ground up.

Even the wealthy churches generate massive revenue for governments. The preachers and others on their payrolls are taxed. The construction companies that have built a half million churches in this country have contributed huge revenues to the government.

It’s just hateful rhetoric to call for churches to be taxed. The government doesn’t have the resources or the good and fair judgement to determine which churches are using their funds appropriately. Plus they’d also spend a fortune losing court battles over which 1st Amendment rights they’ve trampled.
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It's not hateful to have multi-million dollar institutions taxed. You're defending things that don't give a **** about you. Set a threshold so first Baptist church on Bum**** Nowhere Avenue doesn't get taxed but the 40000 square foot behemoth in Carollton does.

Problem solved. The American taxpayer can sleep a little better, and your panties are a little less bunched.
 
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#996
Pretty sure anyone with an IQ surpassing that of a great dane's average life expectancy can figure out which churches are duping the feds and which ones are are actually existing within the confines of being Christlike.

Hell, I'm not even religious and it's easy to see.

Smoke weed every day.
 
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