How Accurate was this Speech?

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volinbham

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I am absolutely certain that generations from now, we will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment when we began to provide care for the sick and good jobs to the jobless; this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal; this was the moment when we ended a war and secured our nation and restored our image as the last, best hope on Earth.
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Seems like an epic fail on the predictions here...:whistling:

Joblessness up, HC in question, no real impact on carbon emissions, 3 wars, country no more/less secure, image no better.

Nice work.
 
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Can't wait for a republican moron president to get in office so I can start threads like this and have you guys defend him because he is dealing with a mess left over by Obama.

The three wars part is really rich.
 
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rjd970 said:
Can't wait for a republican moron president to get in office so I can start threads like this and have you guys defend him because he is dealing with a mess left over by Obama.

The three wars part is really rich.
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Hold up. He has done absolutely nothing that he campaigned on, save the healthcare abortion that he called in every favor he could to get done, in spite of public opposition.
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nbakerld said:
And sadly policy is going to change little when we elect Mitt Romney.
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just don't forget to capitalize "Mormon" or else Chris will chime in and remind you how tolerant and respectful we're supposed to be
 
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BigPapaVol said:
Hold up. He has done absolutely nothing that he campaigned on, save the healthcare abortion that he called in every favor he could to get done, in spite of public opposition.
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So? And how is that different from just about every other president we have had in recent history? If this were a republican president, this thread would never have been started, save LG or Gibbs.

The real irony here is if he had done all the things he campaigned on there would be groaning that we cut tail and run in Iraq and Afghanistan, created jobs that weren't real, killed industry with emission standards, spent too much securing the country, and came off as placating to improve our image.

Why not just admit that no matter what he does, it is going to be wrong?
 
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rjd970 said:
So? And how is that different from just about every other president we have had in recent history? If this were a republican president, this thread would never have been started, save LG or Gibbs.

The real irony here is if he had done all the things he campaigned on there would be groaning that we cut tail and run in Iraq and Afghanistan, created jobs that weren't real, killed industry with emission standards, spent too much securing the country, and came off as placating to improve our image.

Why not just admit that no matter what he does, it is going to be wrong?
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Are you saying Bush didn't do what he said he would do?
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rjd970 said:
So? And how is that different from just about every other president we have had in recent history? If this were a republican president, this thread would never have been started, save LG or Gibbs.
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that's just flat out wrong. No one on this board who is considered right of center was ever an apologist for Bush or the GOP.
 
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rjd970 said:
Why not just admit that no matter what he does, it is going to be right?
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FYP

Though it bothers me that Obama gets so much criticism from Republicans for basically being Bush, it bothers me just as much that Democrats don't criticize him enough for basically being Bush.
 
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MG1968 said:
that's just flat out wrong. No one on this board who is considered right of center was ever an apologist for Bush or the GOP.
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As LG pointed out, there weren't these circle jerk threads that come up almost daily. Simple truth is while most of those that are right of center didn't agree with Bush, he was tolerated a lot more.
 
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rjd970 said:
The real irony here is if he had done all the things he campaigned on there would be groaning that we cut tail and run in Iraq and Afghanistan, created jobs that weren't real, killed industry with emission standards, spent too much securing the country, and came off as placating to improve our image.
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Lot of ifs and drooling speculation up in that.
 
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rjd970 said:
Are you saying he did?
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Yes. He did some extra and spent like a drunken sailor, but he generally did what e said he would. He damn sure didn't campaign on way out of the mainstream silliness then ignore it when elected.
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rjd970 said:
As LG pointed out, there weren't these circle jerk threads that come up almost daily. Simple truth is while most of those that are right of center didn't agree with Bush, he was tolerated a lot more.
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Who tolerated him more?
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hmanvolfan said:
Lot of ifs and drooling speculation up in that.
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You really don't think Obama gets more flak around here than Bush did?

I don't agree with either Bush or Obama, I think they are both ridiculous, but Obama gets a lot of hate around here that Bush never seemed to get.
 
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rjd970 said:
You really don't think Obama gets more flak around here than Bush did?

I don't agree with either Bush or Obama, I think they are both ridiculous, but Obama gets a lot of hate around here that Bush never seemed to get.
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I don't see it, unless you include the deranged fringe.
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BigPapaVol said:
Yes. He did some extra and spent like a drunken sailor, but he generally did what e said he would. He damn sure didn't campaign on way out of the mainstream silliness then ignore it when elected.Posted via VolNation Mobile
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Baloney. You and I both know without the crazy religious vote he never gets elected. He and obama just played to different social groups.
 
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rjd970 said:
Baloney. You and I both know without the crazy religious vote he never gets elected. He and obama just played to different social groups.
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What was the crazy conservative platform? He pandered to those idiots, but what did he tell them he was going to do for them. He disnt tell them anything akin to Obama's definitive commentary about closing Gitmo and coming home from Iraq.
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BigPapaVol said:
Who tolerated him more?
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Those who agreed with his policies. There is no difference here.

Bush gave tax cuts, which most on here agree with. While most never agreed with his spending habits, threads started like this specifically calling him out on fiscal responsibility (republican talking point) were few and far between. The other side, (LG, Gibbs) agree with things like tax increases on the wealthy, so they overlook things like the crap healthcare nonsense he is pushing. Maybe it is just this board is generally right to right of center, but there is more hate for Obama than there was for Bush.

I really don't like Obama either, but come on, we all get it, Obama isn't delivering on promises. Let it go already.
 
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rjd970 said:
Those who agreed with his policies. There is no difference here.

Bush gave tax cuts, which most on here agree with. While most never agreed with his spending habits, threads started like this specifically calling him out on fiscal responsibility (republican talking point) were few and far between. The other side, (LG, Gibbs) agree with things like tax increases on the wealthy, so they overlook things like the crap healthcare nonsense he is pushing. Maybe it is just this board is generally right to right of center, but there is more hate for Obama than there was for Bush.

I really don't like Obama either, but come on, we all get it, Obama isn't delivering on promises. Let it go already.
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I don't think we all get it. If we all did, nobody would vote for him.
 
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