How are we still so delusional?

#52
#52
The same idiots that believe we should have Alabama on our schedule every year. We deserve everything we get until we figure out how to manipulate a winning season like everybody else in the conference has figured out already.
 
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#56
How can this fan base still be so delusional to believe that we should be winning the SEC East this year? We all knew coming in that this would be a gap year, yet mid season because of how well Heupel has had this team playing, we expected to finish 10-2 in the toughest division in all of CFB, with a roster still dealing with fallout from the Pruitt era.

We are recruiting better than ever, have the top QB waiting in the wings, and still a damn good coach. Heupel didn’t fumble 3 times yesterday, he didn’t throw a pick 6. Injuries have decimated our thin defense, and even still we have had a top group that after a murderers row of opponents have just been thinned out.

I get it, we are all ready for success after these past 20 years, especially being so close to Georgia, Alabama, etc. but firing Heupel or blowing up the team because of a bad loss is asinine. This team is well on its way back to the top, but have some perspective and don’t let the year Heupel and Hooker carried us to last year fog that.

There’s plenty to be upset about after the Mizzou game. Florida game was the same deal. And USC last year. A lot to be fixed and addressed. It won’t happen until we have better on the field leadership.

That said, the incessant calls to fire coaches, bench players, etc is unintelligent and overly emotional. Same **** even after a win. We have a miserable and low IQ fanbase.
 
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#57
If he goes 8 or 9 wins in 24 (which looks likely) and 8 or 9 wins in 25...would it be stupid to entertain the idea?

Is above average but not good what we expect from Heupel most years? Or any coach for that matter? Not making one SEC title game?

Again, all of this hypothetical but some of you coach worship far too much.
Who are you going to realistically replace him with? Even in 2025…?
 
#59
#59
How can this fan base still be so delusional to believe that we should be winning the SEC East this year? We all knew coming in that this would be a gap year, yet mid season because of how well Heupel has had this team playing, we expected to finish 10-2 in the toughest division in all of CFB, with a roster still dealing with fallout from the Pruitt era.

We are recruiting better than ever, have the top QB waiting in the wings, and still a damn good coach. Heupel didn’t fumble 3 times yesterday, he didn’t throw a pick 6. Injuries have decimated our thin defense, and even still we have had a top group that after a murderers row of opponents have just been thinned out.

I get it, we are all ready for success after these past 20 years, especially being so close to Georgia, Alabama, etc. but firing Heupel or blowing up the team because of a bad loss is asinine. This team is well on its way back to the top, but have some perspective and don’t let the year Heupel and Hooker carried us to last year fog that.
Losing to Florida was all I needed to see to know UT wasnt winning the east this year.
 
#60
#60
Missouri is going 10-2 and it still took a game with everything that could go wrong, going wrong, for them to win. Florida on the road sucked, but this isn’t a perfect team right now. 9-3 to 8-4 as a gap year with the circumstances is damn admirable
They won 36-7. That’s something you say if they won 10-7.
 
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#61
Who are you going to realistically replace him with? Even in 2025…?

Who knows what things will look in late 25, we are talking hypotheticals. Regardless, nothing is more mind numbing than the, "who ya gunna get huh" reply.
 
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#63
Who knows what things will look in late 25, we are talking hypotheticals. Regardless, nothing is more mind numbing than the, "who ya gunna get huh" reply.
I countered your hypothetical with a hypothetical.

The only thing more mind numbing is to constantly be handwringing about finding a new coach, after the guy you have leads you to the best 3 year period in football since the mid 2000s….
 
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If he goes 8 or 9 wins in 24 (which looks likely) and 8 or 9 wins in 25...would it be stupid to entertain the idea?

Is above average but not good what we expect from Heupel most years? Or any coach for that matter? Not making one SEC title game?

Again, all of this hypothetical but some of you coach worship far too much.
Yes. There is a reason scholarship reductions are handed down as punishment. I don’t think people appreciate how this roster was decimated in 21 along with scholarship reductions. It may take 5 or 6 years to get on track.
 
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The problem is you should never lose to Missouri but **** happens. A 4 score beat down though? Missouri has nowhere near the overall talent we do, so doesn’t that scream outcoached? To Eli Drinkwitz of all people. Stupid. But it bet all CJH still has this program in a much better place, people calling for his head are delusional for sure.
 
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I countered your hypothetical with a hypothetical.

The only thing more mind numbing is to constantly be handwringing about finding a new coach, after the guy you have leads you to the best 3 year period in football since the mid 2000s….

Problem is we had a similar good stretch under Butch where we finished 2nd in the East 2 years in a row. Problem is, he couldnt build his program and sustain it.

I think it is appropriate to be cautious with Heupel while at the same time recognizing what he did last year and the fact he is sort of ahead of schedule.
 
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Yes. There is a reason scholarship reductions are handed down as punishment. I don’t think people appreciate how this roster was decimated in 21 along with scholarship reductions. It may take 5 or 6 years to get on track.

Which is why I have constantly said we will have a good idea where we are as a program under Heupel by the end of 2025 (year 5).
 
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Recruit, recruit, recruit. The Heupel system requires an outstanding QB and a ton of quality depth on defense. Middle of the SEC recruiting will get middle of the SEC results.
 
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#71
There is a difference between gap year and getting run off the field against a bad Florida team and a good Mizzu team.

You guys have to put last season in the rear view mirror and look ahead. What does next year look like? Another 8 or 9 wins? Then your gap "year" turns into "years".
I think nine wins is a great year.
 
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#72
How can this fan base still be so delusional to believe that we should be winning the SEC East this year? We all knew coming in that this would be a gap year, yet mid season because of how well Heupel has had this team playing, we expected to finish 10-2 in the toughest division in all of CFB, with a roster still dealing with fallout from the Pruitt era.

We are recruiting better than ever, have the top QB waiting in the wings, and still a damn good coach. Heupel didn’t fumble 3 times yesterday, he didn’t throw a pick 6. Injuries have decimated our thin defense, and even still we have had a top group that after a murderers row of opponents have just been thinned out.

I get it, we are all ready for success after these past 20 years, especially being so close to Georgia, Alabama, etc. but firing Heupel or blowing up the team because of a bad loss is asinine. This team is well on its way back to the top, but have some perspective and don’t let the year Heupel and Hooker carried us to last year fog that.
I agree with what you said, however, I think we should have still been in the running at this point given our 3 losses seemed to be rigged from the start. I really think there’s more to it going on that the team can not control. It’s been too obvious up to this point.
 
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I think nine wins is a great year.

Depends on the schedule. This year, losing to a bad Florida team, not winning one of our big rivalry games (UF, UGa, Bama) and dropping a turd vs Mizzu, is not a great year. If you think that is a great year then we have vastly different interpretations of the word "great".
 
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#75
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NO Adjustments for getting ur butt beat on the line of scrimmage.........both sides of the ball.
It is what it is.........Line Play wins or loses games.
Agreed
But for those who mindlessly complain about adjustments. I’m curious what adjustments they think should have been made.
 

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