How do you feel about Halzle taking the reins?

How confident are you in Halzle's ability to run the offense?

  • We got this.

    Votes: 263 75.8%

  • I hope we got this.

    Votes: 73 21.0%

  • Ehhhhhhh

    Votes: 6 1.7%

  • He's no Alex Golesh

    Votes: 5 1.4%
  • Total voters
    347
  • Poll closed .
#26
#26
Wish there was a response between 'We got this' and 'I hope we got this'...that's kind of where I'm at until he proves himself.
This offense is somewhat situational (when in this situation, you run this play) and I think Golesh was really in tune with Heupel and the Offense to be aware of those situations...I think Halzle is tuned in as well, but we'll see how much very soon.

I could see the first game or two being an adjustment for us on Offense for sure.
 
#27
#27
BruisedOrange said:
I think it was during the Orange Bowl telecast that they showed how Golesh prepared his play sheet for each game, because it was (to them and to me) very unusual. IIRC it involved his predictions of how defenses would anticipate and respond to certain plays. Golesh might be a unique mind. Depends on how deeply he mentored Halzle.
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Related to that idea, I would expect many Computer Science depts who have been working on predictive AI, early on offered to test their capabilities in coordination with their athletic dept. Of course by now, predictive AI would be predicting which boosters will commit infractions, and how much specific donors will give.

(With access to gameday video, the CS Dept. also probably knows which season ticket holders "wooooo!" during Rocky Top and which don't.)
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Golesh was indeed a unique mind and did great job play-calling but Huepel has been play-caller himself and has mentored Halzle.

However, I came here to comment on your AI part. How soon do you think we will see some AI based tools on sidelines or booth ? Based on a huge amount of dataset available to train, it would be interesting to see AI scan a formation on field, give options for best counter formation or play call to use based on the score and time left. Atleast it could assist play callers make better choices.
 
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#28
#28
I think Golesh was fantastic but it’s Heupel’s offense. I don’t necessarily think there will be zero issues but I also don’t think we’ll see a significant setback.
 
#30
#30
For those of you who are concerned, ask yourself this. If you were a UGA fan, would you have been concerned when Lanning left? The answer is the same in both cases.
 
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#31
Eastknox865 said:
I would agree with you 100% if Fulmer was a former qb turned OC. This is Hypes offense coach Fulmer was a lineman that never created an offense or called plays. If it doesn't work out Hype will call the plays if he doesn't already
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Fulmer was an OC who called plays tho…quite successfully. Cutcliffe developed a slightly different and more advanced version of Walt Harris’s model, and Fulmer wasn’t entrenched in it’s teaching and tweaking…unlike Heupel. This is 100% his baby.
 
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Eastknox865 said:
I would agree with you 100% if Fulmer was a former qb turned OC. This is Hypes offense coach Fulmer was a lineman that never created an offense or called plays. If it doesn't work out Hype will call the plays if he doesn't already
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Fulmer called plays for Johnny Majors, he was OC for the Miracle at SB
 
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#35
#35
I think as long as Heupel is around he will surround himself with quality people and develop them. There may come a time when we have to worry about his staff being too "inbred" but not yet. That may be a concern when Halzle has an opportunity to move on and UT is tempted to replace him with someone who has exclusively grown up under Heupel- someone from "within".
 
#36
#36
vol_smoothie said:
I am nervous about this change.
Remember what happened when Cutcliffe left and Randy Sanders took over as OC.

We fell flat in '99 with a more talented team because of lack of discipline, which is what Cutcliffe brought to the practice field every day.
Just look at how much better the team played together when he returned in 2006 after 7 up & down seasons.
I don't believe we blow the 2001 SEC championship game if Cutcliffe had still been here.
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While I understand caution. Fulmer sucked at hiring coaches. He kind of fell into it with Cut and Chavis. Without Cut he was barely an average coach. He had a MASSIVE hole in his leadership. He was too loyal to individuals who weren't getting the job done... he didn't correctly discipline his staff or team.

So far, Heupel has been a better leader than coach. Cultures do not happen by accident. The incredible shift over the past two years compared to anything since Fulmer's glory years is impressive. So far, his hires have been very good. The only one I have significant questions about is Banks... but that's me. I'm not always easy to convince. There is no doubt at all about the discipline within the staff or program... or the AD for that matter. White gets some credit here too.
 
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#38
#38
Super nervous that he’s been under Heupel’s wing for only 15 years. Not sure if he’s ready.
 
#39
#39
He'll be a HC one day... just like I belive many other offensive cordinators that'll come here and learn under one of, if not the best, offensive minds there is in college football. Heupel will have a coaching tree and the first branch sprouted in Alex Golesh last year.
 
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#40
I'm just glad Heupel has engendered such confidence these days. I remember a lot of...skepticism. I wasn't sure myself, but my buddy who is an OU fanatic was very sad we got Heupel and he knew he wouldn't be going back to OU. He said we were very fortunate he took the job. I read up more and found Heupel is just a born winner. Some people are like that, they outwork everyone else in whatever they do, and get the results.
 
#42
#42
vol_smoothie said:
I am nervous about this change.
Remember what happened when Cutcliffe left and Randy Sanders took over as OC.

We fell flat in '99 with a more talented team because of lack of discipline, which is what Cutcliffe brought to the practice field every day.
Just look at how much better the team played together when he returned in 2006 after 7 up & down seasons.
I don't believe we blow the 2001 SEC championship game if Cutcliffe had still been here.
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Totally understandable concerns, but Cutcliffe ran that offense, not Fulmer.
As long as we have the architect of the offense calling the shots, the wheels should stay on the bus.

volmandu said:
Golesh was indeed a unique mind and did great job play-calling but Huepel has been play-caller himself and has mentored Halzle.

However, I came here to comment on your AI part. How soon do you think we will see some AI based tools on sidelines or booth ? Based on a huge amount of dataset available to train, it would be interesting to see AI scan a formation on field, give options for best counter formation or play call to use based on the score and time left. At least it could assist play callers make better choices.
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It will seem silly to some, but this type of data driven decision-making is exactly what AI is extremely good at.
 
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#43
#43
It's Heupel's offense. He's calling the plays this year. Halzle will do fine when the time comes.
 
#45
#45
volmandu said:
Golesh was indeed a unique mind and did great job play-calling but Huepel has been play-caller himself and has mentored Halzle.

However, I came here to comment on your AI part. How soon do you think we will see some AI based tools on sidelines or booth ? Based on a huge amount of dataset available to train, it would be interesting to see AI scan a formation on field, give options for best counter formation or play call to use based on the score and time left. Atleast it could assist play callers make better choices.
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I wonder if football, for all its complexities and room for creative decision making, has already became too narrow a test ground for true AI? In the past year it has been tested fulfilling the complete roles of a medical doctor and a lawyer. So much for AI just manning the fast food grill and service window.

I'm not an AI aficionado, just a normal person for whom AI keeps inserting itself into my planning and calculations. Not a fan of where this is inevitably heading. Elon Musk seems to have lately seen the light ...or created a public image facade with whom the rest of us can identify.

Pre-crime prevention formally became an overt federal gov't function during the time of the Trump administration, detailing AI to predict who would commit crimes, with the implied authority to arrest them before the crime is committed. I've read that it was only around 70% accurate (20% higher than a coin flip). I'm more concerned with the authority than the accuracy.

If the Vols utilized AI at its current capabilities, I'm guessing they would be using it to predict what a specific coach or signal caller, on or off field, would be calling for the next play, within 2 seconds of establishing down and distance from the previous play.

"Predict" is probably the wrong term, as that implies response based on statistical analysis. AI would be taking into account the opponent's emotional frame of mind, the importance of the game within the season, even the coach's perceived job security.

The difference between a computer and AI is... AI would become the opponent in order to determine his next move.
 
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#46
#46
Heupel was the true OC last year, the year before, and will be in the foreseeable future. This is not a disparaging take on Golesh, I believe he’s a really good coach.
 
#48
#48
We got this because our actual OC is Coach hype in the first place and Halzle is really just the QB coach.
 
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#49
#49
All very good responses. As long as our O-Line holds long enough for Milton to throw and talented teams can't pick us apart in the secondary like they did last year we have a very good shot at the Playoffs again.
 
#50
#50
This is like asking what we think about Steve Spurrier's new OC. Its CJH's offense. We wont skip a beat. I have several concerns going into the 2023 season but OC isnt one of them.
 
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