How high of a seed can we get?

#51
#51
UTLCA said:
I looked at both websites and its interesting the difference in between their lists.
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the difference is that one is the historical record, the last word, and the other is the 'entertainment' sports network.
 
#53
#53
Don't really understand why Onuaku isn't anywhere to be seen on the "official" list.
 
#54
#54
lidderer said:
You're incredibly dense. Here's let's just ease the pain for you in one shot: NCAA® Statistics

That, by the way, is the OFFICIAL ncaa website.

Better luck next time.

Also re: harden: how dumb is it to take into account time when he is not on the floor? They have 10 wins by 20+ points, during how many of those games' final minutes do you think harden was in the game?

The only thing that matters is how much he shoots while he is on the floor, since...wait for it...he can't shoot when he's not.
Click on that, my god.
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The harden thing doest bother me thats fine and very understandable, not that other teams arent ever winning or beng destroyed but either way the harden thing is fine. but obviously this site has some other qualifications besides 5fg agame because neither onuaku or johansen are anywhere on tha list nor is cunningham and all 3 avg 5 fg pergame + and have a higher % than penderdouche.
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#56
#56
ok and your going by the ncaa which we see what some of those idiots have done in the past. i would trust alot more people from espn than thos morons at the ncaa. sorry i kind of have a bias ater the daniel west bs. and yes its very interesting how onuaku or cunningham or hanke are al off that list. Shows just how intelligent the ncaa is.
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#57
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utbasketballloft said:
The harden thing doest bother me thats fine and very understandable, not that other teams arent ever winning or beng destroyed but either way the harden thing is fine. but obviously this site has some other qualifications besides 5fg agame because neither onuaku or johansen are anywhere on tha list nor is cunningham and all 3 avg 5 fg pergame + and have a higher % than penderdouche.
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None of those players average 5 fgs/game.

Onuaku=127 in 26 games
Johannsen=97 fgs in 24 games
 
#58
#58
utbasketballloft said:
ok and your going by the ncaa which we see what some of those idiots have done in the past. i would trust alot more people from espn than thos morons at the ncaa. sorry i kind of have a bias ater the daniel west bs. and yes its very interesting how onuaku or cunningham or hanke are al off that list. Shows just how intelligent the ncaa is.
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It's the official book of record of the ncaa. they have a simple and rational qualification of 5 fgs made per game, which onuaku and hanke and johannsen do not meet.

This is showing just how intelligent someone is, but not the ncaa.
 
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lidderer said:
None of those players average 5 fgs/game.

Onuaku=127 in 26 games
Johannsen=97 fgs in 24 games
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oh yea forgot onuaku is 4.8 a game so after syracuses next game bye bye to penderdouche being on tp. but uh like i said what about Hanke from prvidece and Cunningham from Boise St all average more than 5fg per game..were are the geniuses at the ncaa on this one
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#61
#61
UTLCA said:
...who has, by the way attempted 7 shots per game and played in all of Syracuse's games, which is well above the NCAA's rigid guidelines.
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it is fgs MADE, not ATTEMPTED, plus how is that 'rigid'? It's really not that different than any other sport.
 
#62
#62
utbasketballloft said:
oh yea forgot onuaku is 4.8 a game so after syracuses next game bye bye to penderdouche being on tp. but uh like i said what about Hanke from prvidece and Cunningham from Boise St all average more than 5fg per game..were are the geniuses at the ncaa on this one
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hanke=94 in 26 games
cunningham=99 in 24 games

that's where the geniuses are.

"bye bye to penderdouche"? My point was that he is leading the league in fg%, so obviously they aren't just relying on harden. Even if he drops to 10th or 20th in the nation in this stat it still makes the point i was making.

I didnt realize you had a beef with jeff pendergraph though, that explains all this weirdness from you in the thread.
 
#63
#63
lidderer said:
It's the official book of record of the ncaa. they have a simple and rational qualification of 5 fgs made per game, which onuaku and hanke and johannsen do not meet.

This is showing just how intelligent someone is, but not the ncaa.
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its clearly written take the time do the math.
hanke has taken 136 shot in 25 games which is 5.4 fg per game
cunningham has taken 145 shots in 24 games which is 6.04 fgper game......BOTH MEET 5 FG PER GAME AND HAVE A HIGHER %
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#64
#64
yea i dont like pendergraph at all but thats not why i havebeen arguing this i just dont like false information.
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#65
#65
utbasketballloft said:
its clearly written take the time do the math.
hanke has taken 136 shot in 25 games which is 5.4 fg per game
cunningham has taken 145 shots in 24 games which is 6.04 fgper game......BOTH MEET 5 FG PER GAME AND HAVE A HIGHER %
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'its clearly written' that you need to MAKE 5 fgs per game.

Also, and for fun, onuaku is gonna have to hit 8 of 10 against providence to say 'byebye to penderdouche'. Which: won't happen.
 
#66
#66
Back to topic, I think the highest possible seed is a 4 and the lowest a 7-8 seed. If I had to guess right now, I'd say we end up a 6 seed.
 
#67
#67
utbasketballloft said:
yea i dont like pendergraph at all but thats not why i havebeen arguing this i just dont like false information.
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Oh my god man, you have been wrong about everything this whole thread, and can't even understand the difference between fgs made and fgs attempted, nor do you understand the way the ncaa--that's the actual organization, not an 'entertainment' network that covers the organization--groups its OFFICIAL leaders.

You were wrong each time, just pack it up.
 
#68
#68
Oldblood said:
Back to topic, I think the highest possible seed is a 4 and the lowest a 7-8 seed. If I had to guess right now, I'd say we end up a 6 seed.
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I think we can certainly go lower than a 7-8, especially with Ls to kentucky and florida and a poor SECT showing.
 
#69
#69
lidderer said:
I think we can certainly go lower than a 7-8, especially with Ls to kentucky and florida and a poor SECT showing.
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I think if we go much lower than that, we may be on the wrong side of the bubble come March. I just don't see us losing more than 3-4 down the stretch, which would put us at 20 wins with a great strenghth of schedule.
 
#70
#70
your right im wrong acording t your website, ad your wrong acording to mine. i use espn because thats what everybody uses and if you asked any players im sure theyd say the go by that. the awards given out each year dont come off stats of the ncaa site, they are because of popularity, good team, good player. its not like the ncaa site means jack crap. they have a 5 fg a game qualification ok big deal, as i said espn has something too otherwise rthe leaers would be 100%"
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#71
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Oldblood said:
I think if we go much lower than that, we may be on the wrong side of the bubble come March. I just don't see us losing more than 3-4 down the stretch, which would put us at 20 wins with a great strenghth of schedule.
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Ya, I think we're a lock though just because of that SOS, and if we do happen to lose 3-4 down the stretch I think we can look at arizona's 19-14 10 seed(and their high SOS) and see that we'd probably be in a similar boat.
 
#72
#72
if we dont get in for anyother reason of 12 guys getting season endinginjuries then there is a big problem. tennessee is about a lock, ad is in a great position to really boost their seeding in tecoming weeks.
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#73
#73
utbasketballloft said:
your right im wrong acording t your website, ad your wrong acording to mine. i use espn because thats what everybody uses and if you asked any players im sure theyd say the go by that. the awards given out each year dont come off stats of the ncaa site, they are because of popularity, good team, good player. its not like the ncaa site means jack crap. they have a 5 fg a game qualification ok big deal, as i said espn has something too otherwise rthe leaers would be 100%"
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recall that you jumped into this whole discussion because you thought it was so crazy that i stated pendy as 'leading the league' in fg%.' Note the word 'league'. Note that the 'league' we are talking about is the NCAA. Note the source I used.

Great, you prefer espn, big deal, was this worth trying to call me out for during about 4 pages? Probably not. And for the record: no player has ever won any offensive award that has averaged less than 5 fgs made per game, so in that sense: the qualifications do matter.
 
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