How much money do we give Heupel at season end?

#27
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CAVPUT said:
He got a raise right after last season. I think you bump him but only after the season is done and the recruiting class is finalized. Do his annual evaluation when you've got his entire body of work to reflect on. I don't think you start trying to make him a 7-10 million dollar man at this point in his career. Don't care what Ole Miss gave kiffy. Fiscal sanity should be the goal.
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The question is, can you wait? Any team in the nation will pay Heupel if he has a sour taste in his mouth because we refuse to pay him.
 
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ecs4dvols said:
Pay the man... Regardless of what happens... Pre-season, if anyone said we would be 5 games in, undefeated, ranked in the top 10, 80% of yall would have been dogging anyone making those claims. The man and his staff can flat-out coach!
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Agreed. I think that honestly as long as we win 8 games reg season and don't lose to Vandy this season is a W
 
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Whatever the dollar amount ends up being after this year is over, you want it to be commensurate with the respect he’s earned from taking a once great program that has been in the dumpster for 15 years and elevating it to the top echelon of the SEC in two years. I don’t think you want anyone to be able to approach him and say Tennessee is trying to low ball you after all you’ve done for them.
 
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grandjason said:
Last year Ole Miss gave Kiffin 7.3 million after going 10-3 in his second season. Assuming CJH goes 10-3 (including the bowl game), how big of a Brinks truck do we deliver?
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I don't know a number specifically. But if we win Saturday whatever that number was going to be gets much higher
 
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ecs4dvols said:
Pay the man... Regardless of what happens... Pre-season, if anyone said we would be 5 games in, undefeated, ranked in the top 10, 80% of yall would have been dogging anyone making those claims. The man and his staff can flat-out coach!
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Have confidence in our team to compete no matter who we’re playing in year 2. With a real shot to beat Bama. And once we pull in a couple more classes we’re gonna have a monster here
 
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I know this isn't worth a lick of salt but I'm fine giving him a ton of money if he takes us to the SECCG or the playoffs this year.

Otherwise, I personally would want to see what he does with another QB. I don't want a Gene Chizik or Ed O situation where a coach has one good year that's basically lightning in a bottle and then the floor completely falls out. We've been burned by this before also with a MASSIVE extension for Fulmer in 2007 when it was clear to most that it was Cut who should get the credit.

Also, Mel Tucker is another cautionary tale for getting too excited too quickly.
 
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Whatever is the going rate for a coach of his accomplishments plus a bonus to show your commitment. No need to make him the highest paid but if he can win with the talent level he has you have to believe more stars and the team starts to consistently compete at the higher level than the past two decades.

Right now even with the latest pay increase he is mid pack in the SEC in terms of pay and this team seems to be performing higher than mid pack. If you want him to stay you have to prove to him that you will pay market rate for the teams performance. BUT you don’t go stupid TAM level until it’s consistent.

I believe you will see AD White give him consistent pay increases every year his team performs until CJH is in the top 25% of SEC pay.
 
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Dadof2Vols said:
Whatever is the going rate for a coach of his accomplishments plus a bonus to show your commitment. No need to make him the highest paid but if he can win with the talent level he has you have to believe more stars and the team starts to consistently compete at the higher level than the past two decades.

Right now even with the latest pay increase he is mid pack in the SEC in terms of pay and this team seems to be performing higher than mid pack. If you want him to stay you have to prove to him that you will pay market rate for the teams performance. BUT you don’t go stupid TAM level until it’s consistent.

I believe you will see AD White give him consistent pay increases every year his team performs until CJH is in the top 25% of SEC pay.
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I'd want to see some level of consistency and not just flash in the pan with Hooker one year. I'd want to see that he can do that with at least Milton or Jackson before I'm ordaining him.

There have been a LOT of average coaches that have had spectacular years thanks to either a dearth of talent or just supreme talent at one position and a good coordinator.

Kevin Sumlin took over a very middling A&M won 11 games in Year 1. They opened the Brinks truck and signed him to a (big then) 6 year $30mil contract when he was 8-2 in 2013 after very close losses to ranked Alabama and Auburn. Turns out that 2012 season was basically just because of Kliff Kingsbury and Sumlin didn't win more than 8 games in his next agonizing 4 years.

I like Heupel so far, but lets see how he does without Golesh/Hooker before we ordain anything just like Sumlin without Kingsbury/Manzeil and Orgeron without Brady/Burrow.

We haven't even played Bama or UGA yet much less win the East or a Playoff game and we're right back here at the same feeding trough saying we should crown Heup.
 
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We have a great coach who has the trust and respect of our AD and I do not think we need to feel any stress about his contract or his bolting for another program. Let the AD worry about that, we should just enjoy what is happening right now.
 
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agent|orange said:
I'd want to see some level of consistency and not just flash in the pan with Hooker one year. I'd want to see that he can do that with at least Milton or Jackson before I'm ordaining him.

There have been a LOT of average coaches that have had spectacular years thanks to either a dearth of talent or just supreme talent at one position and a good coordinator.

Kevin Sumlin took over a very middling A&M won 11 games in Year 1. They opened the Brinks truck and signed him to a (big then) 6 year $30mil contract when he was 8-2 in 2013 after very close losses to ranked Alabama and Auburn. Turns out that 2012 season was basically just because of Kliff Kingsbury and Sumlin didn't win more than 8 games in his next agonizing 4 years.

I like Heupel so far, but lets see how he does without Golesh/Hooker before we ordain anything just like Sumlin without Kingsbury/Manzeil and Orgeron without Brady/Burrow.

We haven't even played Bama or UGA yet much less win the East or a Playoff game and we're right back here at the same feeding trough saying we should crown Heup.
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Your Points are all fair and I agree with your premise. I would do small raises each year. The reasons are simple:

He is outperforming everyone‘s pre-season expectations if you go back and look at what people though including most on this board. Pre-season not sure anyone even seriously considered UT to challenge UGLY or Satan.

Half of the other SEC teams and many other teams in the nation would easily trade their coach for CJH.

Lastly a lot of coaches walk into a team with good players that had a terrible coach who were just underperforming. CJH walked into a dumpster fire in a Covid year with more players walking out the back door then coming in the front door. They have taken a team of lesser talent and coached them up to compete.
 
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Shaun1985 said:
If he wins a natty, he gon have babies and roads named after him. I imagine whatever he wants
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Brother, if .by some miracle UT makes it to the playoffs in January-

About October or so there's gonna be a lot of kids named Josh. You're also gonna see a tremendously unusually large number of kids named Hendon, Bru, and Cedric running around the playgrounds in a few years.
 
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