How much of the Florida "curse" is because its usually the first SEC game of the year?

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I don't think the true "Florida curse" stuff actually started until the 2010s. Spurrier definitely had Fulmer's number, but let's face it - he was a better Xs and Os coach than Fulmer and I think intimidated him.

We actually won 4 out of 7 contests against them from 1998 to 2004. During the Urban years, they were head and shoulders a better team than us. This whole "Why can't we beat them even when we're evenly matched or when we're better than them" stuff didn't start until the Muschamp years and has continued ever since.
 
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This is why nobody takes you serious. As if your delusional thoughts weren't enough, to blatantly admit you're a fair weather fan, proves you nothing more than a troll. Nobody cares if you think fans are nervous about the Florida game for no reason. Did you watch last week? Only a delusional person wouldn't be worried about how our offense has performed.
 
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Curse my ass! We have beat them 21 times and they have beat us 31. We have had a 10 game win streak and they have an eleven game win streak. We will gain another Saturday.
 
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05_never_again said:
I don't think the true "Florida curse" stuff actually started until the 2010s. Spurrier definitely had Fulmer's number, but let's face it - he was a better Xs and Os coach than Fulmer and I think intimidated him.

We actually won 4 out of 7 contests against them from 1998 to 2004. During the Urban years, they were head and shoulders a better team than us. This whole "Why can't we beat them even when we're evenly matched or when we're better than them" stuff didn't start until the Muschamp years and has continued ever since.
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The thing that sticks out the most about Fulmer's record against UF is not having at least 1 win during Manning's time on the hill. The rosters from 94-97 were just absolutely stacked with NFL players on both sides of the ball. I know UF had NFL talent as well combined with great coaching but those losses just sting more compared to most since I have been following the Vols. Hopefully Heup gives us something good to talk about around 10:30 pm Saturday night. GBO!!
 
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PEPPERJAX said:
The thing that sticks out the most about Fulmer's record against UF is not having at least 1 win during Manning's time on the hill. The rosters from 94-97 were just absolutely stacked with NFL players on both sides of the ball. I know UF had NFL talent as well combined with great coaching but those losses just sting much more compared to most since I have been following the Vols. Hopefully Heup gives us something good to talk about around 10:30 pm Saturday night. GBO!!
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On paper, those UT teams you just mentioned were slightly more talented than UF. Not by some huge margin, but they were more talented. I think the differences largely came down to coaching, both in terms of getting your team ready to play and in-game adjustments.

The 1996 game was maybe the most frustrating. How in the world do you trail 35-6 at halftime, at home, as the #2 team in the country?
 
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05_never_again said:
On paper, those UT teams you just mentioned were slightly more talented than UF. Not by some huge margin, but they were more talented. I think the differences largely came down to coaching, both in terms of getting your team ready to play and in-game adjustments.

The 1996 game was maybe the most frustrating. How in the world do you trail 35-6 at halftime, at home, as the #2 team in the country?
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Or the 2007 team that won the east losing to a 9-4 UF team by 39 points. Our program should be out of eggs to lay against UF.
 
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PEPPERJAX said:
Or the 2007 team that won the east losing to a 9-4 UF team by 39 points. Our program should be out of eggs to lay against UF.
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Another part of the curse, particularly over the last 10-15 years, is that UF almost always plays their A or B game (by that particular team's standards, not on an absolute basis) against us. I'm running down the list of games and the only game I'd say where they played poorly against us was the infamous 10-9 loss in 2014.
 
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The curse is real. Kentucky should have beaten a handful of Vols teams recently and suffers from the same syndrome
 
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05_never_again said:
Another part of the curse, particularly over the last 10-15 years, is that UF almost always plays their A or B game (by that particular team's standards, not on an absolute basis) against us. I'm running down the list of games and the only game I'd say where they played poorly against us was the infamous 10-9 loss in 2014.
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No one likes to lose but if we were going to drop a game this season to help us refocus then hopefully the poor showing at arky was it. I have seen UF lose both of their games this year by double digits to actual legit teams against the aggies & canes with both having their way with the gators. Heupel needs to earn that paycheck tomorrow securing a dub. The schedule doesn't get any easier moving forward that is for sure.
 
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Carl Pickens said:
I remember during the Fulmer years thinking the Vols would have fared much better later in the season ….. no lie
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Tennessee is 4-8 since the 1960s in games played later than September, 2-3 since the 90s and the last 5. I really don't think it would've made that much a difference.
 
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All becuase Tennessee has been down, doesn't mean our team was worse than Florida in that given year. Florida has had many bad teams which even decent Tennessee teans couldn't beat (2015 and 2023). Even when both teams were bad or on the same level, Florida won.

Also, I do think the fact we played them early in the year did give Florida an advantage as the years have gone on. Becuase we have played them do early on in the season, there wasn't much tape of either team. Both teams had yet to really carve out a narrative for the season. Florida usually came into the game ranked, with the perception they were the better team, even though the season had yet to be played out. As a result, the overarching narrative of Florida being ranked, and having historically beat Tennessee was a mental edge always in Florida's favor.
 
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Just like my 49ers love losing to the Chiefs in Suberbowls........our players love losing to the Gators. So much so that we keep creating new ways to lose to them.
 
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05_never_again said:
On paper, those UT teams you just mentioned were slightly more talented than UF. Not by some huge margin, but they were more talented. I think the differences largely came down to coaching, both in terms of getting your team ready to play and in-game adjustments.

The 1996 game was maybe the most frustrating. How in the world do you trail 35-6 at halftime, at home, as the #2 team in the country?
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If I'm thinking of the same game, I'm going to say it was due to Alex Brown getting 27 sacks in that game
 
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whobethis16 said:
So Florida is better at being prepared earlier in the year before injuries and everything set in? Yeah, that's a real big comforting thought there. :rolleyes:
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No. My point is nobody cares if 2 bad teams meet at the end of the year and one always beats the other. Vols fans are hung up on the poor record versus Florida cause it's usually the first conference game of the year where fans are usually the most hopeful. You don't know the team sucks yet so the losses early on hurt more than losses later in the season when the season is lost.
 
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Zues1 said:
So not really a fan. I stopped reading after that
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utchs81 said:
So Finally D4H has admitted what we all knew that he was only a "fair weather fan" who'd a thunk it?
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I personally find the whole die-hard fan thing stupid. You're unnecessarily causing yourself emotional distress over a situation which you have no control over.

I am a fairweather fan who prefers his mental well-being. So I only invest myself in teams when I know they'll be good. So instead of resenting me you should view me as a canary in the coal mine. Whenever I'm around it means Tennessee football is good. When I'm not around it means Tennessee football stinks.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
Can't believe someone who takes as much **** on here as you would actually come out and post this. We've had like 3 or 4 good teams in the last 20 years.....why are you even here? I'm surprised you aren't a Bama or UGA fan by now....
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Well I'm from Tennessee not Alabama or Georgia. So the only team I'll ever root for is Tennessee. Its difficult to escape the tribal nature of college football. What I won't do though is invest heavily in the program when it's trash. I'll instead just sit back and wait until it puts a half decent product on the field.
 
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Jaxon_Vol2017 said:
Did you watch last week? Only a delusional person wouldn't be worried about how our offense has performed.
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I did. And it's exactly because they didn't play their best last week that I know they'll bring their A game this week. It's what great teams do. And this team is great.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
I did. And it's exactly because they didn't play their best last week that I know they'll bring their A game this week. It's what great teams do. And this team is great.
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This team doesn’t have the offensive line to be great. I’ll add this to your long list of other absurd claims that ended up being wrong
 
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There were several years when Tennessee was a better team at the end of the year than Florida. In 1999, Tennessee lost early to Florida, who started fading near the end of the year but had just enough to win. Alabama under Mike Dubose, for crying out loud, routed the Gators 34-7 in the SEC Championship game. Tennessee had beaten Alabama 21-7.
 
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robcovol said:
There were several years when Tennessee was a better team at the end of the year than Florida. In 1999, Tennessee lost early to Florida, who started fading near the end of the year but had just enough to win. Alabama under Mike Dubose, for crying out loud, routed the Gators 34-7 in the SEC Championship game. Tennessee had beaten Alabama 21-7.
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That's one example. Usually Tennessee is just as bad as Florida at the end of the year or Florida is significantly better. We've rarely been the better team at the end of the year and lost to them. 1999 and 2023 might be the only seasons in the last 25 years where we lost to Florida but were significantly better. And both those games were on the road. Winning on the road even as the better team is hard to do. We just saw that this past weekend with Alabama at Vanderbilt and 3 weeks ago with Georgia at Kentucky.

I can't think of a single year where Tennessee lost at home to Florida when they were clearly the better team by the end of the season. It's usually the case that Florida is better than us or we lost to them on the road.
 
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I think the Vols need to get a Nun mascott like that Chicago basketball team that beat us 2 years ago.
 
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