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n_huffhines said:
Is anybody besides @Notorious B.E.N watching Snowfall (Hulu/FX)? It's about the drug trade in LA in the 1980's. Just as I was thinking it was starting to get stale, season 5 ended in wild fashion and season 6 (final season) is going to be crazy. Season 1 is solid, but the show really finds its stride in season 2. The show isn't perfect. It's maybe just a notch below what you expect out of the best premium shows, but the writers keep me guessing and I'm emotionally invested.

What the hell are they doing with Lucia? She's been gone for 3 or 4 seasons. I thought for sure they would re-introduce her before going into the final season. Now I feel like the move is that they are going to reintroduce her next season, and have a spinoff show with her and Oso. I gotta believe that in this world of historical fiction, she's supposed to represent the real-life Ochoa crime boss-lady.
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I just got caught up on it, i cant wait until next season. ****'s about to get wild.
 
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n_huffhines said:
I mean, I'm just looking for more feedback. You have a pretty good track record but IMDb and both RT ratings are not great
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What would you like exactly? It's fun, it's paced well, the main guy plays the role well. Also it's two episodes so far, my opinion may change. I loved Sandman till episode 7 and it fell off a cliff.
 
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Coug said:
Someone needs to explain to me why Hulu thinks of itself as so great that it can charge $7 a month and still play ads. Sure, you could double that and get no ads but their content isn't that spectacular. Am I missing something?
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Sub T-day weekend for $1/mo. They have run this the last few years.

Started watching The Bear this weekend. Fairly interesting and good.
 
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DrRosenRosen said:
Sub T-day weekend for $1/mo. They have run this the last few years.

Started watching The Bear this weekend. Fairly interesting and good.
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Since I got Hulu about a year ago I tend to watch it more than any streamer not called HBO.
 
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The Old Man was great… wanting more. You forget how great Bridges is with elite writing. There is some melodrama, but I’m prone to see that where it doesn’t matter.
 
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Prime - Boche Legacy is a very good show to watch. You could easily binge this show. It features Madison Lintz who was originally Carol's daughter on The Walking Dead years ago.
 
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butchna said:
The Old Man was great… wanting more. You forget how great Bridges is with elite writing. There is some melodrama, but I’m prone to see that where it doesn’t matter.
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I don't know why but I thought this was a limited series so when that last episode ended like it did I was like "are you effing kidding me"?! Pretty cool show! It has Homeland vibes to it.
 
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Welcome to Wrexham is a docuseries about Rob McElhenney and Ryan Reynolds getting a wild hair and buying the 3rd oldest professional soccer club in the world. It's really entertaining. This is exactly the type of thing I would do with my $ if I got rich.

It's on FX. Not sure if it's streaming on hulu yet.
 
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VolFaninFla said:
Watched four episodes on a Saturday and four on Sunday.
Really liked this one. Acting all around was good. I hope there is a Season 2 on the horizon:
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This show is bizarre and slow and after watching all 8 episodes still zero answers have been given. There has been no explanation to what is going on. The only definitive thing I gathered is that the past is starting to blend into the present.
 
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The Hulu documentary series on the Lakers is very good. I think they spend a little too much time with the Buss family and not enough with the players, but still very interesting. I grew up cheering for the Showtime teams of the 80's... so this was a must-see for me. If you aren't a Lakers fan, it probably wouldn't interest you.

* I always had the feeling that Magic and Worthy didn't really like each other. That appears to have been accurate and is explained.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
The Hulu documentary series on the Lakers is very good. I think they spend a little too much time with the Buss family and not enough with the players, but still very interesting. I grew up cheering for the Showtime teams of the 80's... so this was a must-see for me. If you aren't a Lakers fan, it probably wouldn't interest you.

* I always had the feeling that Magic and Worthy didn't really like each other. That appears to have been accurate and is explained.
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Do they cover the Shaq/Kobe 3peat? I imagine they show some of the Kobe controversy, but I can't imagine they show him to be the all-time douche and team-wrecker that he was, considering how beloved he is now and the fact that he passed?...
 
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n_huffhines said:
Do they cover the Shaq/Kobe 3peat? I imagine they show some of the Kobe controversy, but I can't imagine they show him to be the all-time douche and team-wrecker that he was, considering how beloved he is now and the fact that he passed?...
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Wasn’t a fan of Kobe’s agenda, especially since that 2003 “Super Team” was gathered after his sexual assault accusation and Shaq had backed him throughout. But time has cashed that check his ego wrote and in someway vindicated him. As great as Shaq was, his lack of dedication to fitness cost him major portions of seasons and Kobe was always about improving not receding. When that Dream Team thudded 1-4 against a lesser talented but much better TEAM in Larry Brown’s Pistons, he made his move. Looked vain and stupid when Shaq won his last championship with the Heat and the Lakers struggled with Kobe as The Man, but he coined The Mamba legend with the back to backs in 2009-2010…albeit with Phil Jackson’s return. Maybe cost the franchise a few with the feud or maybe not. It’s always how you end it.
 
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butchna said:
Wasn’t a fan of Kobe’s agenda, especially since that 2003 “Super Team” was gathered after his sexual assault accusation and Shaq had backed him throughout. But time has cashed that check his ego wrote and in someway vindicated him. As great as Shaq was, his lack of dedication to fitness cost him major portions of seasons and Kobe was always about improving not receding. When that Dream Team thudded 1-4 against a lesser talented but much better TEAM in Larry Brown’s Pistons, he made his move. Looked vain and stupid when Shaq won his last championship with the Heat and the Lakers struggled with Kobe as The Man, but he coined The Mamba legend with the back to backs in 2009-2010…albeit with Phil Jackson’s return. Maybe cost the franchise a few with the feud or maybe not. It’s always how you end it.
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Shaq was ahead of his time. Everybody now knows the regular season is overrated and performing in the playoffs is all that matters, which Shaq did every time and Kobe did not. People can clown on Shaq for a lack of dedication, but none of us know what it's like to be a literal giant, including Kobe. Everything you do is an inconvenience. Every exercise is harder. Shaq could've busted his ass preseason and regular season and then missed the playoffs and had a shorter career because of all the stress and wear and tear. Kobe was the only teammate who didn't like Shaq. Everybody else loved him. The only real critique I have of Shaq is that he refused to try granny FT's.

He took it easy and it worked out. I'm playing the results, and you can't argue with the results. Kobe wanted a guy who he could see was working hard when all he should've wanted was a guy that could do this....I mean, seriously, 39+ MPG and look at these playoff numbers.

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Malone was injured. Payton wasn't a great fit. But the biggest reason they lost to the Pistons was Kobe played like absolute dog **** and ballhogged. His finals numbers were totally embarrassing. He shot 38% and just kept shooting and shooting.

Kobe is the luckiest fkn guy in the history of basketball. The only people who liked Kobe in 2004 were Lakers fans and Dr. Buss. His game was well-respected but he wasn't respected in the league by anybody. None of his teammates liked him. He ruined the team and then demanded a trade. The Pau Gasol trade should've never happened and that allowed Kobe to change the narrative and now most people either forgot about what really happened in the first half of his career, or they let it go. Kobe is better than Ray Allen (who wasn't available to the Lakers ), but all things considered, if they could have drafted him instead of Kobe, they probably win 4 or 5 titles between 1998 - 2004.

Three Ring Circus is a very entertaining book and it will make you ask yourself 100x "WTF is wrong with this guy?" Kobe had 2 sides to him. He's the guy who didn't flinch with Matt Barnes but he's also the guy that wept when he apologized to Samaki Walker because he thought he had an ass-beating coming.

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n_huffhines said:
Shaq was ahead of his time. Everybody now knows the regular season is overrated and performing in the playoffs is all that matters, which Shaq did every time and Kobe did not. People can clown on Shaq for a lack of dedication, but none of us know what it's like to be a literal giant, including Kobe. Everything you do is an inconvenience. Every exercise is harder. Shaq could've busted his ass preseason and regular season and then missed the playoffs and had a shorter career because of all the stress and wear and tear. Kobe was the only teammate who didn't like Shaq. Everybody else loved him. The only real critique I have of Shaq is that he refused to try granny FT's.

He took it easy and it worked out. I'm playing the results, and you can't argue with the results. Kobe wanted a guy who he could see was working hard when all he should've wanted was a guy that could do this....I mean, seriously, 39+ MPG and look at these playoff numbers.

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Malone was injured. Payton wasn't a great fit. But the biggest reason they lost to the Pistons was Kobe played like absolute dog **** and ballhogged. His finals numbers were totally embarrassing. He shot 38% and just kept shooting and shooting.

Kobe is the luckiest fkn guy in the history of basketball. The only people who liked Kobe in 2004 were Lakers fans. His game was well-respected but he wasn't respected in the league by anybody. None of his teammates liked him. He ruined the team and then demanded a trade. The Pau Gasol trade should've never happened and that allowed Kobe to change the narrative and now most people either forgot about what really happened in the first half of his career, or they let it go.

Three Ring Circus is a very entertaining book and it will make you ask yourself 100x "WTF is wrong with this guy?" Kobe had 2 sides to him. He's the guy who didn't flinch with Matt Barnes but he's also the guy that wept when he apologized to Samaki Walker because he thought he had an ass-beating coming.

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Not a hater of the taking it easy approach. Poppovich utilized it and bought some seasons for Duncan’s career in the process. Shaq should have been MUCH better considering the physical lottery he won at birth. What had to have grated at Kobe was having to carry the load during that OVERRATED regular season to determine who participates in the playoffs. It was well known that the Lakers were Shaq, Kobe and Pau Gasol and a well crafted Phil Jackson contingent of worker bees like Fisher, Fox and Horry. When you take one of that trio away from a few games during the season, you have the best Spurs seasons and no resentments. When that ONE removes HIMSELF because he enjoys those Nestles he hawks a little too much? It comes to a head eventually. Those numbers represent your point well but consider they occurred during what should have been his PRIME. His last season in LA they had a loaded squad trying to get Gary Payton and Karl Malone rings, and they coasted to a second seed in the playoffs. Talent whipped enough to plow through the postseason but sputtered against a team that had played together throughout the meaningless regular season and was too tough at the end. I think Bill Simmons is blustery and an obvious Celtics blowhard, but one of his books properly highlighted Shaq’s legacy. Great player who left some greatness on the sidelines due to lack of full commitment. By all means he should be up there with Kareem and Wilt but cost himself through his own doing. Kobe got the extreme most out of his own body to the very end. It’s why I begrudgingly respect him way more than you can muster.
 
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butchna said:
Not a hater of the taking it easy approach. Poppovich utilized it and bought some seasons for Duncan’s career in the process. Shaq should have been MUCH better considering the physical lottery he won at birth. What had to have grated at Kobe was having to carry the load during that OVERRATED regular season to determine who participates in the playoffs. It was well known that the Lakers were Shaq, Kobe and Pau Gasol and a well crafted Phil Jackson contingent of worker bees like Fisher, Fox and Horry. When you take one of that trio away from a few games during the season, you have the best Spurs seasons and no resentments. When that ONE removes HIMSELF because he enjoys those Nestles he hawks a little too much? It comes to a head eventually. Those numbers represent your point well but consider they occurred during what should have been his PRIME. His last season in LA they had a loaded squad trying to get Gary Payton and Karl Malone rings, and they coasted to a second seed in the playoffs. Talent whipped enough to plow through the postseason but sputtered against a team that had played together throughout the meaningless regular season and was too tough at the end. I think Bill Simmons is blustery and an obvious Celtics blowhard, but one of his books properly highlighted Shaq’s legacy. Great player who left some greatness on the sidelines due to lack of full commitment. By all means he should be up there with Kareem and Wilt but cost himself through his own doing. Kobe got the extreme most out of his own body to the very end. It’s why I begrudgingly respect him way more than you can muster.
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Gasol didn't play with Kobe and Shaq. He only played with Kobe.

They were never in danger of missing the playoffs. It's really not that hard to make the playoffs. More than half the teams get there. Again, this is why superstars on good teams today are totally fine missing 20 games. The Lakers lowest win % was .620 during those years, and Shaq only missed more than 22 games once (33 missed in 1999) from 1998 - 2004, and he played at an MVP level when he did play.

I totally disagree that Shaq should have been much better. He's a top 10 player all time, and literally the only thing that I know for sure would have made his career better is shooting granny FT's (which might've made him the GOAT). Again, if he worked harder between August and April, there is a damn good chance he would've been hurt for a lot of playoffs and had a much shorter career.

Wilt isn't the guy you think he was. Neither is Kareem. They are higher on the GOAT list but they are not known for being hard workers. Kareem didn't want to run for the showtime Lakers and getting him to buy in was a problem. Wilt was just showing up and dominating.

You can respect Kobe more than I can because you haven't read Three Ring Circus. The dude admitted that the sex was non-consensual and he also narc'd on Shaq to the feds saying Shaq pays women hush money for these kinds of situations. He had no idea how to treat people. Phil hated him. His teammates hated him. He was as fake as they come. He was bullying the bench players and Shaq was taking them out to dinner and buying them suits and offering to pay for their Father's funeral. Kobe had a work ethic that I can respect, but the whole package is hard to respect.
 
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