Hurry Up No More

You can talk about the offense going fast all you want, but we have had MULTIPLE 3rd and longs on defense the last few games on which we have allowed conversions. Doesn't the D have some responsibility in getting themselves off the field by forcing 4th downs?

The fact of the matter is that until we have better linebacker and secondary play (via better players) the D is gonna struggle.
 
Love the offense but the defense couldn't tackle to save their lives tonight. If we could have gotten out of the first have with a few stops defensively this wouldn't have been a game.
Tackling was atrocious last night, defense will be much better when they have some depth
 
I have to agree with a UK fan I saw on their board, if they didn’t have those long drives and/or our defense made some stops and we rack up 100 on them. Give me the speed!
 
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It puts a ton of pressure on the opposing defense. Many times we broke big runs or had big pass plays because their defense was out of position. It’s worth the trade off for me. Plus after years of scoring like 13 points a game, it’s a lot of fun to watch.
 
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8 games in the books

1 game of 45 minutes fornthe defense


Why would you think that is the norm?

And the speed of the offense had zero to do with thise first quarter drives and the defense being unable to get off the field.

Why do so many look for something to whine about?

Sorry to upset you. I'm not whining just expressing an opinion if that's okay with you. Geesh!!!
 
I do enjoy seeing Tennessee’s offense move the ball and score points. It’s been way too long since we’ve had such a prolific offense. But I’m quickly souring on the hurry up offense because as we all know, it puts too much pressure on the defense. No defense can hold up if they have to play 45+ minutes every game. I’m thinking if Coach Huepel is such an offensive genius he should not have to rely on a gimmicky offense to score points. If Tennessee played a more typical offense using a reasonable amount of play clock the defense might be more rested and have a chance to stop somebody. Having to rely on outscoring your opponent game after game is fools errand IMO. GBO!
Our defense was not holding up from the first series until the last. Was the defense tired in the first quarter as well?
 
The offense is doing it’s job. The defense just isn’t that great unfortunately. Are you going to blame the first defensive drive of the game on the offense because they scored on the first play of the game? The defense allowed Kentucky to march right down the field and took nearly 9 minutes off the clock. That’s not the offense’s fault. The defense needs to step up and get off the field on 3rd downs. It was a horrible defensive game plan with no aggressiveness, just soft zone all game long.
 
Our defense was not holding up from the first series until the last. Was the defense tired in the first quarter as well?

No, I don't think they were tired in the first series but yes, I do believe they were tiring by the end of the game.
 
The bottom line is this team with this talent would have less wins without Heupel’s offensive philosophy.
 
I do enjoy seeing Tennessee’s offense move the ball and score points. It’s been way too long since we’ve had such a prolific offense. But I’m quickly souring on the hurry up offense because as we all know, it puts too much pressure on the defense. No defense can hold up if they have to play 45+ minutes every game. I’m thinking if Coach Huepel is such an offensive genius he should not have to rely on a gimmicky offense to score points. If Tennessee played a more typical offense using a reasonable amount of play clock the defense might be more rested and have a chance to stop somebody. Having to rely on outscoring your opponent game after game is fools errand IMO. GBO!
They haven't had to play 45+ minutes every game.

Geez, people. We won last night. Take a day off from the sky-falling, "have to create drama where none exists", chicken-little act.
 
They haven't had to play 45+ minutes every game.

Geez, people. We won last night. Take a day off from the sky-falling, "have to create drama where none exists", chicken-little act.

It's true they haven't had to play 45+ minutes of defense every game, I overstated that. I believe they average about 35 or so minutes a game. Now, to your other comments. No, I don't believe the sky is falling and yes, I'm very happy we won and no, I'm not trying to create drama, I'm simply expressing an opinion on the viability of the hurry up offense. Why are posters like you so intolerant of other's opinions when they differ from yours?

Regarding the hurry up offensive strategy, I believe it is a passing fancy like the wishbone from the 70's and 80's. This hurry up offense will fade in time just like the wishbone. I think if it was truly the way of the future more teams would have adopted it by now, they haven't. In time, I believe it's possible that rules may be changed to discourage such fast paced play due to injuries from fatigue, the difficulty it imposes on the referees, a perceived unfairness against defenses or other reasons.

I realize that this futuristic thinking may be beyond some folk's comprehension and if that's the case here, please accept my condolences.
 
It's true they haven't had to play 45+ minutes of defense every game. I believe they average about 35 or so minutes a game.
Now, to your other comments. No, I don't believe the sky is falling and yes, I'm very happy we won and no, I'm not trying to create drama, I'm simply expressing an opinion on the viability of the hurry up offense. Why are posters like you so intolerant of other's opinions when they differ from yours?

Regarding the hurry up offensive strategy, I believe it is a passing fancy like the wishbone from the 70's and 80's. This hurry up offense will fade in time just like the wishbone. I think if it was truly the way of the future more teams would have adopted it by now, they haven't. In time, I believe it's possible that rules may be changed to discourage such fast paced play due to injuries from fatigue, the difficulty it imposes on the referees, a perceived unfairness against defenses or other reasons.

I realize that this futuristic thinking may be beyond some folk's comprehension and if that's the case here, please accept my condolences.
Intolerant? lol

I pointed out that you based your complaint/question on a untrue strawman logic. That, by definition, is creating drama from nothing. I'll agree to tolerate your strawmen if you can tolerate being called on it.

That's how debate works. You state an opinion. When that opinion is based on untrue facts, others point that out.
 
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Sorry to upset you. I'm not whining just expressing an opinion if that's okay with you. Geesh!!!

You may want to rethink how you approach (fellow?) Tennessee fans. You start by straw-manning with anti-facts, and follow up by insulting the best offense we may have ever had as a "gimmick".

Now you want to play the victim card because UT fans step in to correct you.

Proverbs 15:32, dude. Wisdom would accept the instruction and not reject the correction.
 
I do enjoy seeing Tennessee’s offense move the ball and score points. It’s been way too long since we’ve had such a prolific offense. But I’m quickly souring on the hurry up offense because as we all know, it puts too much pressure on the defense. No defense can hold up if they have to play 45+ minutes every game. I’m thinking if Coach Huepel is such an offensive genius he should not have to rely on a gimmicky offense to score points. If Tennessee played a more typical offense using a reasonable amount of play clock the defense might be more rested and have a chance to stop somebody. Having to rely on outscoring your opponent game after game is fools errand IMO. GBO!

Actually our defense played better at the end of the game than they did the rest of the game. Imo top is not that important if you are scoring points. Our defense was not on the field anymore than ky offense was on the field.
 
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This one. This is the one.

If the defense wants to get off the field, then they need to get off the field. Especially on 3rd and long.

And especially especially on 4th and 24.

I would like to see us blitz more on 3rd and long, thats actually what we did on ky last series to stop them. Apparantly our front 4 cannot put pressure on the qb. I had rather blitz and take a chance than to just let teams consistantly make a first down on 3rd or 4th and long which is what is happening. A few times we even had a 3 man front with the others dropping back in coverage. And got burned most of the time.
 
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The defense puts pressure on itself not making stops on 3rd down. Are you asking the offense to kneel on the 2 yd line instead of scoring.

The last time I checked, the team with the most points won, not the team with TOP!
 
So, help me out, I am confused. People want us to take longer to score so our defense can rest? I thought that scoring as quickly as possible was a good thing???

It is in imo. Defense should get no more tired than the offense they are playing against. We do need more depth on defense though. Our d did not stop ky from the beginning of the game when fresh, the d actually made a stop on ky last drive, so there goes the theory d is tired and can't stop the o.
 
Defense didn’t practice tackling during bye week. It showed. If they actually did tackle last night. That game would have been over mid way through the 2nd QTR
 
You may want to rethink how you approach (fellow?) Tennessee fans. You start by straw-manning with anti-facts, and follow up by insulting the best offense we may have ever had as a "gimmick".

Now you want to play the victim card because UT fans step in to correct you.

Proverbs 15:32, dude. Wisdom would accept the instruction and not reject the correction.

Oh boy ... where do I begin? Let’s start with your name calling.

I think you called me a drama queen, a Chicken Little, a straw man and a self proclaimed victim. First, the definition of a straw man is “a weak or imaginary opposition set up only to be easily confuted” which I assume you based on my statement that “no defense can hold up if they have to play 45+ minutes every game” as was the case with Kentucky. I believe that statement to be true. You chose to construe my statement to mean all games played thus far, I did not. However, to review all games played thus far the Tennessee’s defense has averaged 36 minutes/game or 60% of the game which, in my opinion (please note this is an opinion and not a proven fact so as to avoid any future diatribes) is excessive and problematic over the course of a season. Now you may choose to consider my logic as weak which is your prerogative but your name calling was uncalled for.

Since you chose to quote the Bible in your reply to me let me add these two verses for you “Luke 6:31 And as you wish that others would do to you, do so to them” or how about “Colossians 4:6 Let your speech always be gracious, seasoned with salt, so that you may know how you ought to answer each person.”

You further state that I followed up my opinion by “insulting the best offense we may have ever had as a gimmick”. Maybe you should once again re-read my post as I never insulted the offense and in fact, stated that I enjoyed Tennessee’s prolific offense. Once again, you misconstrued my statement. Now back to the dictionary since you seemed to take exception to my use of the word gimmick. To quote Webster’s a gimmick is “an ingenious and usually new scheme or angle”. Once again, I believe this to be true. Like I mentioned in a subsequent post, I think the “hurry up” offense will go the way of the wishbone. It too was innovative and used successfully by a few schools but was not universally adopted and eventually faded away. In time I think we may see rule changes that hinder the hurry up style of play and ultimately it’s demise as well. Of course, I could be wrong but as I stated in my original post I was only my opinion.

In closing you stated “now you want to play the victim card because UT fans step in to correct you”. Tell me Mr. UT fan, what proof do you have that my opinion is incorrect other than YOUR opinion and besides who appointed you to correct anything anyone says. Furthermore, you seem to believe that your lame name calling replies to me somehow constitutes a “debate”. To me it appears that you are nothing more than another example of cancel culture where absent any reasonable logical argument they resort to name calling. Geesh!

PS I always preferred Nehi to Orange Crush ... so there!
 
I love the hurry-up. It keeps the defense off guard and forces them to be pretty simple scheme-wise. My only gripe from Saturday was at the end of the 3rd Quarter. We had just gotten the ball and run 2 plays. The play clock for 3rd down started with 38 seconds left on the game clock. Our D was tired. I would have let the clock run and snapped 3rd down to start the 4th Quarter. We didn't and the defense was back on the field before the 3rd ended. Other than that, snap it as much and as fast as you can. I would just like to see a little situational awareness like that from time to time, but that is not what CJH is built on.
 
The D creates their on rest time. Stop the Offense and get off the field on 3rd down. Then you can go sit on the bench and catch a break. SMDH
 
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I do enjoy seeing Tennessee’s offense move the ball and score points. It’s been way too long since we’ve had such a prolific offense. But I’m quickly souring on the hurry up offense because as we all know, it puts too much pressure on the defense. No defense can hold up if they have to play 45+ minutes every game. I’m thinking if Coach Huepel is such an offensive genius he should not have to rely on a gimmicky offense to score points. If Tennessee played a more typical offense using a reasonable amount of play clock the defense might be more rested and have a chance to stop somebody. Having to rely on outscoring your opponent game after game is fools errand IMO. GBO!



Having to outscore your opponent game after game is fools errand?
WTF?
 

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