I’ll tell you this: Danny White

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dobre_shunka said:
Regularly churn out 3 to 4 losses? He's been here just over 2 seasons. Get a grip
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Reading comprehension is hard sometimes. I didn’t say anything about Heupel’s record. I said Danny White won’t be satisfied with 3-4 loss seasons while he’s the AD at Tennessee, so I’m not worried about football or any other program while he’s in charge.
 
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VolCalls said:
Reading comprehension is hard sometimes. I didn’t say anything about Heupel’s record. I said Danny White won’t be satisfied with 3-4 loss seasons while he’s the AD at Tennessee, so I’m not worried about football or any other program while he’s in charge.
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I’m not worried about Hypels job while Danny white is here.
We’re talking about DW who gave CJH 9 MIL a year when he wasn’t even asking for it.
 
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Season ticket prices increasing again next season. Parking restructuring. Big deal with Food City on TBA. New venue next to Neyland. As long as money is being made…
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
Reasonable assessment, but our playbook is vanilla too and that's on Heupel.

If the play selections we've seen are all we can get out of this team after the play selections we saw last year, what happened?

Something has changed radically in the tempo we play most of the time and play mix.

Last year we were excited because of our exciting offense Heupel runs and hopeful that "what WR wouldn't want to play in this scheme?" This year..... that offense is nowhere to be seen.

That's on our coach. He calls the plays. He designs the overall offense. Where is the Coach Josh Heupel of last year and his offense?
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Heupel likely isn’t calling plays. That’s why he has Halze. It’s his system. Calling plays and being the head coach is incredibly difficult. Not even Kiffin does it. I would say barely any HC does. That’s why they have OCs. Even Lincoln Riley has an OC.

There isn’t one single thing to blame. Heupel is to blame no doubt. But there is a lot more blame to spread around.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Heupel likely isn’t calling plays. That’s why he has Halze. It’s his system. Calling plays and being the head coach is incredibly difficult. Not even Kiffin does it. I would say barely any HC does. That’s why they have OCs. Even Lincoln Riley has an OC.

There isn’t one single thing to blame. Heupel is to blame no doubt. But there is a lot more blame to spread around.
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Day and Riley both do it.
 
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DustyRockSolid said:
We are vol fans. We've saw this movie before and we know how it ends.
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You aren’t a Vol fan. You are Doobs4Heisman level “fan.” When things are going good you are a fan. Things get rocky and you hate the team and think the coach sucks. Just leave and go be a UGA fan. That way you will be all giddy 99% of the time.
 
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Knee jerk and instant gratification is what some are into these days. We will get on track. We are 2-1, 3 games into a season doesn’t make a season. For the ones giving up on the season just leave now. That doesn’t mean we can’t talk about what needs to be corrected. Many packed it in against South Carolina and we rebounded. I do think other db’s deserve some time. I do think it would not hurt to get Nico in the game some in the second half against San Antonio. I don’t think we should rush him if he is not ready or if he has a true injury. But you can’t kids glove him just because he is a freshman either. There have been many freshmen that have came in and played well in college. That doesn’t mean Joe still isn’t number 1 but when your quarterback is struggling maybe he needs to realize there is a hungry young 5 star player that isn’t planning on staying on the bench forever. GBO
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
Reasonable assessment, but our playbook is vanilla too and that's on Heupel.

If the play selections we've seen are all we can get out of this team after the play selections we saw last year, what happened?

Something has changed radically in the tempo we play most of the time and play mix.

Last year we were excited because of our exciting offense Heupel runs and hopeful that "what WR wouldn't want to play in this scheme?" This year..... that offense is nowhere to be seen.

That's on our coach. He calls the plays. He designs the overall offense. Where is the Coach Josh Heupel of last year and his offense?
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I just posted a thread where McCoy said the team didn’t think they could continue to score, even after the first drive. Something is different. Imo, the coaches aren’t confident in Joe which rolls downhill to the players. Or, the players don’t trust the coaches and/or certain players. Idk pretend to know the reason or answers.
 
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VolCalls said:
Reading comprehension is hard sometimes. I didn’t say anything about Heupel’s record. I said Danny White won’t be satisfied with 3-4 loss seasons while he’s the AD at Tennessee, so I’m not worried about football or any other program while he’s in charge.
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Reading compression is hard sometimes. Danny White has only been here two years.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
Reasonable assessment, but our playbook is vanilla too and that's on Heupel.

If the play selections we've seen are all we can get out of this team after the play selections we saw last year, what happened?

Something has changed radically in the tempo we play most of the time and play mix.

Last year we were excited because of our exciting offense Heupel runs and hopeful that "what WR wouldn't want to play in this scheme?" This year..... that offense is nowhere to be seen.

That's on our coach. He calls the plays. He designs the overall offense. Where is the Coach Josh Heupel of last year and his offense?
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What’s changed is Joe at the helm. He’s hamstrung the offense because he’s slow in decision making.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Heupel likely isn’t calling plays. That’s why he has Halze. It’s his system. Calling plays and being the head coach is incredibly difficult. Not even Kiffin does it. I would say barely any HC does. That’s why they have OCs. Even Lincoln Riley has an OC.

There isn’t one single thing to blame. Heupel is to blame no doubt. But there is a lot more blame to spread around.
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Whether Heupel is calling the plays or not, I don't think the change in tempo this year has come from the OC.

I think we can agree the overall play scheme is extremely different from last year almost all of the time. It's vanilla. It's conservative. It's nothing like we've seen from Josh Heupel since he got here.

I'm not trying to say: It's Milton. It's the OL. It's Halzle. I'm not arrogant enough to claim I can see what's going wrong to have caused the changes. I can't and I'm pretty sure no one else on VN can either.

What I can see is the offensive scheme I saw Saturday won't work in the SEC. We can win some games, perhaps, but it was not effective enough to beat even a relatively mediocre FL team and it will not beat most SEC teams.

We had an offense last year that was extremely effective in the SEC. I'm at a loss as to why Heupel seems to have walked so far away from that offense.

We saw Heupel run his offense WITH MILTON before Hooker replaced him. Yes, Hooker ran it better, but Milton DID run that offense. I have a very hard time (even if Heupel doesn't believe Milton can successfully run the offense Hooker ran......... even if the OL can't execute like they did last year) believing Heupel has gone as far as he has from what we saw him run last year.
 
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DustyRockSolid said:
We are vol fans. We've saw this movie before and we know how it ends.
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Just like players and coaches we all have plus/minus numbers based on our efforts and how they are or are not improving the program. Cheap shots or discretion in the locker room and on fan sites are what they are. MANY of the same guys VENTING in public forums would take offense at a player doing it. Double standards are what they are.
 
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AdoptedVOL said:
I've decided
  • The 2023 Volunteers are not going to live up to my expectations
  • There is no component of the team that is elite - can't blame DBs, QB, RBs, OL, DL for poor performance. The VOLS as a team are vanilla
  • I love Volunteer football even when it frustrates. I love our color of orange, Davey Crocket, Smokey, Rocky Top, Checkerboards.
  • I choose to believe that Heupel will get as much out of this team and staff as he can and will recruit to fill gaps. He's my/our Coach.
  • I will tune into every game and support this team while they work to figure it out.
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My guess is talk out of Bama would be identical to this. However, those of us who have watched and suffered with our Vols in the swamp are not too surprised, though we are disappointed. We have lost down there to, in no particular order of their coaching competence, Urban Meyer, Jim McIlwaine, Ron Zook, Will Muschamp, Billy Napier, Dan Mullen, and made all of them look like Saban.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
Reasonable assessment, but our playbook is vanilla too and that's on Heupel.

If the play selections we've seen are all we can get out of this team after the play selections we saw last year, what happened?

Something has changed radically in the tempo we play most of the time and play mix.

Last year we were excited because of our exciting offense Heupel runs and hopeful that "what WR wouldn't want to play in this scheme?" This year..... that offense is nowhere to be seen.

That's on our coach. He calls the plays. He designs the overall offense. Where is the Coach Josh Heupel of last year and his offense?
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He rolled with the wrong QB for the second time since he has been here and is now discovering said QB ain’t gonna get it done.
 
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