I’m tired of seeing AZ as 1 seed .

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Willy14 said:
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I know we take Lunardi with a grain of salt, but it seems he believes Arizona has to lose 1 for us to pass them, no matter if we win out or not.
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I’ve obviously shared my opinion for awhile that I thought matching Arizona would be enough, Lunardi appears to be saying otherwise. I will say that on bracketmatrix of the 35 updated brackets 18 have us a 1 and 17 have us a 2, 15 have Arizona as a 1 and 20 have them as a 2…so based off that it would seem to suggest it’s pretty split but that more than 50% seem to think we’ve passed Arizona already. Hard for me to think that number wouldn’t continue to climb if we add 2 more Q1 wins while Arizona adds, 0.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
That’s the thing, it wouldn’t be the same bracket. We aren’t in the West unless we are a 1 seed.
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Exactly. If you want Arizona as your 1/2 matchup, which we should want, then we need to be the 1 or we’re not getting it.

The only caveat is I don’t love the Gonzaga matchup with how well they’ve played lately, and I can see them being the 8/9 in the West, which would be a brutal game in the 2nd round.
 
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The projected 9 and 10 seeds look much scarier than the projected 6/7/8 seeds. It's a little weird.
 
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Rockytop10nessee said:
Ironically, Greg Byrne would be our guy. Which sounds bad but actually isn’t. Hell fight for our cause. He’s an honest person, and it benefits Bama on top of that.
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You are correct. Byrne is a a very respected man, and he’ll fight for the conference’s interest. Cunningham is also known as very fair. The NCAA has a preference for placing a western team as the one in the West region due to TV/time zones/audience. Surmounting that would require a very clear case for us.
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
Exactly. If you want Arizona as your 1/2 matchup, which we should want, then we need to be the 1 or we’re not getting it.

The only caveat is I don’t love the Gonzaga matchup with how well they’ve played lately, and I can see them being the 8/9 in the West, which would be a brutal game in the 2nd round.
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Gonzaga if a 8/9 in our bracket would be a 2nd round game. Those are done closest to home for each team when they can. We might not get them as 1 seed if we play in Charlotte or Memphis.
 
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spyfish007 said:
Gonzaga if a 8/9 in our bracket would be a 2nd round game. Those are done closest to home for each team when they can. We might not get them as 1 seed if we play in Charlotte or Memphis.
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Good point. I guess I mistakenly thought “West” bracket so they’ll want a West team, but it’s a good flag that they likely wouldn’t make Gonzaga fly all the way across the country for the first weekend.
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
Exactly. If you want Arizona as your 1/2 matchup, which we should want, then we need to be the 1 or we’re not getting it.

The only caveat is I don’t love the Gonzaga matchup with how well they’ve played lately, and I can see them being the 8/9 in the West, which would be a brutal game in the 2nd round.
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It would be unfair to keep Gonzaga in the West, in my opinion. The lower seeds should not get any love and haven't. I could see them putting Gonzaga in any of the brackets.
 
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volbound1700 said:
It would be unfair to keep Gonzaga in the West, in my opinion. The lower seeds should not get any love and haven't. I could see them putting Gonzaga in any of the brackets.
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I thought the NCAA tries (when seeding allows) to place teams as close to their home base as possible to eliminate long and expensive travel.
 
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molsen81 said:
I thought the NCAA tries (when seeding allows) to place teams as close to their home base as possible to eliminate long and expensive travel.
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They do with the top 16 seeds, and to a lesser degree after that due to so many other variables like conference affiliation, etc. There have been cases where #8/#9 seeds have flown across the country and others where #6 seeds have played an hour from campus.
 
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molsen81 said:
I thought the NCAA tries (when seeding allows) to place teams as close to their home base as possible to eliminate long and expensive travel.
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I thought it was only for higher seeds. They have made Tennessee travel to the West Coast before.

EDIT: I guess to explain the position better. It wouldn't make sense for a 1 or 2 seed on East Coast to travel West to play Gonzaga if they are a lower seed. They are going to do the opposite. Leaving Gonzaga in the West, unless they are playing an equivalent seed that is even closer to home, wouldn't be fair to the higher seeds.

Granted, the committee is all over the place, however. I could still see them doing something like that. I think they like upsets because it draws attention and $$$ to tournament so they, sometimes, intentionally setup interested matchups.
 
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VolArmy74 said:
1s also have a winning record against all other seed groups. Oddly, the second worst winning % for 1s is vs 11 seeds. They actually have more losses to 11s than 2 seeds do.

The 1 seed record vs 16, 8/9, 4/5, aka the most common path to E8 is 84% win percentage.

The 2 seed vs 3/6, 7/10, 15 is only a 68% winning percentage.

It's just harder to win vs better teams and every advantage helps. It shows up in the stats over the long haul. There's going to be outlier years but you should always want a #1 seed.
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I always find these discussions interesting. 1 seeds have been really bad the last 2 years. I’ll be stunned if it happens a 3rd straight year.
 
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Arizona this year has reminded me of Gonzaga and their reign of dominance in the WCC. Being a big fish in a small pond in a two team league. In Arizonas case, most of their losses come to good teams,and getting swept by Washington St. Compare that to Tennessee who has went 6-4 in the top 25. I'm glad this is the end of the PAC 12 and I'm not a conference realignment guy.

Bottom line is if Tennessee can handle South Carolina and Kentucky, everything takes care of itself as far as a one seed. Going 8-4 in the top 25 will earn a 1 seed imo.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
I’ve obviously shared my opinion for awhile that I thought matching Arizona would be enough, Lunardi appears to be saying otherwise. I will say that on bracketmatrix of the 35 updated brackets 18 have us a 1 and 17 have us a 2, 15 have Arizona as a 1 and 20 have them as a 2…so based off that it would seem to suggest it’s pretty split but that more than 50% seem to think we’ve passed Arizona already. Hard for me to think that number wouldn’t continue to climb if we add 2 more Q1 wins while Arizona adds, 0.
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Yep, there would have to be some serious bias at play to lock Tennessee out if they finish the regular season on a 8-0 heater with 4 Q1 wins in there, two on the road. It's also worth noting that it would put us at 21-3 since November 29th with 8 Q1 wins in that span (assuming Florida rises 3 spots). That would also be shutting out the regular season champ of arguably the best conference in the country, certainly top-2 in favor of a team that might eek out the title of best team in the 7th best conference.
 
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cncchris33 said:
Yep, there would have to be some serious bias at play to lock Tennessee out if they finish the regular season on a 8-0 heater with 4 Q1 wins in there, two on the road. It's also worth noting that it would put us at 21-3 since November 29th with 8 Q1 wins in that span (assuming Florida rises 3 spots). That would also be shutting out the regular season champ of arguably the best conference in the country, certainly top-2 in favor of a team that might eek out the title of best team in the 7th best conference.
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Very true. As you’ve said already, the Committee is probably hoping we lose one of these next 2 games so their choice is made for them. But our destiny is almost entirely in our own hands right now. Won’t be easy, but go 2-0 this week and we’re a 1-seed. The team just needs to stay locked in like they have been. And I think they will. They know the conference title isn’t locked up just yet.
 
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volbound1700 said:
I thought it was only for higher seeds. They have made Tennessee travel to the West Coast before.

EDIT: I guess to explain the position better. It wouldn't make sense for a 1 or 2 seed on East Coast to travel West to play Gonzaga if they are a lower seed. They are going to do the opposite. Leaving Gonzaga in the West, unless they are playing an equivalent seed that is even closer to home, wouldn't be fair to the higher seeds.

Granted, the committee is all over the place, however. I could still see them doing something like that. I think they like upsets because it draws attention and $$$ to tournament so they, sometimes, intentionally setup interested matchups.
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Have to remember, we are talking about the decisions being made by the NCAA. We all know about how they make their decisions.
 
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wtmvol said:
UCONN, Purdue, and Houston are all 10-3 in Q1 games with 0 losses below Q1. No one else is even close to them in terms of resume.
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The only knock on UConn is their schedule but they’re certainly a lock for a 1.
 
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igotworms said:
So record is the only criteria?
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No, not what I said. And not all records are created equal. Records against the best teams certainly is the primary criteria. What else are you gauging them on? Coolest uniforms? Likeability?
 
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I think what’s bothering the committee is the geographical part of the top teams. Was there ever a 1 seed that was 2,183 miles from their region?
 
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