I am humbly amused by Ms. Staley's misfortune...

[LadyOrange]

Some coaches like Geno are blatant in their negative recruiting.
And flat out lie and slander. Other coaches are more subtle….and I really can’t share more on here because the eruption that would take place…..ooooohhh. Let’s put it this way, politics are involved.

 

[Rickster]

Witty title change. Thanks

 

[GarnetGhost]

How do you know it is not true? Seriously, do you KNOW it is not true.

Why don't you get LadyOrange to reveal her source(s) or quit with the accusations. DS and SC does not need to negative recruit TN. There are more than enough positives about the SC program to discuss with recruits that the topic of TN's program is not even brought up. Have no idea (other than rumor) about other SEC coaches negative recruiting.

 

[GarnetGhost]

Some coaches like Geno are blatant in their negative recruiting.
And flat out lie and slander. Other coaches are more subtle….and I really can’t share more on here because the eruption that would take place…..ooooohhh. Let’s put it this way, politics are involved.

If you and your sources had the goods you'd be spilling them. Are you trying to imply that certain administrators within the SEC are protecting Dawn and/or turning a blind eye?

 

[Rickster]

Why don't you get LadyOrange to reveal her source(s) or quit with the accusations. DS and SC does not need to negative recruit TN. There are more than enough positives about the SC program to discuss with recruits that the topic of TN's program is not even brought up. Have no idea (other than rumor) about other SEC coaches negative recruiting.

Hey, what part of protected information is unclear to you? Her sources are her own business. Badgering her because she will not reveal her sources is inappropriate at best.

 

[GarnetGhost]

Hey, what part of protected information is unclear to you? Her sources are her own business. Badgering her because she will not reveal her sources is inappropriate at best.

I was asked to reveal mine. I never asked for her sources. I simply told the poster asking for mine to ask her for hers. She is the one who brought up the topic.

 

[Lucy]

Why don't you get LadyOrange to reveal her source(s) or quit with the accusations. DS and SC does not need to negative recruit TN. There are more than enough positives about the SC program to discuss with recruits that the topic of TN's program is not even brought up. Have no idea (other than rumor) about other SEC coaches negative recruiting.

But YOU said you you knew for sure that Dawn did not run LVs down to recruits. So I just wanted to know if you were on the staff, if you had had a child recruited by Dawn. Just how you knew.

 

[stlvolsfan]

Shakes hand same round loss is a wash. I will venmo or cashapp 50 if UT goes further than UK. Just remind me when the time comes. I hope you will do the same. If UT had Horston and Green still I would agree with you. UT was playing really well and I was impressed. Even surprised.

Deal. don’t let me forget! If I do, just message me. I am a woman of my word.

 

[GarnetGhost]

But YOU said you you knew for sure that Dawn did not run LVs down to recruits. So I just wanted to know if you were on the staff, if you had had a child recruited by Dawn. Just how you knew.

I can not say how I know anymore than LadyOrange can say how she knows. I am not trying to be difficult but I am as sure DS does not negative recruit the LVs as LadyOrange is that she does. I will say I am not on staff and I do not believe the staff reads Volnation but I will inquire.

 

[stlvolsfan]

Didn't happen to me, it was Vol fans insulting Dre from KY. I guess some can't take a loss well.

That’s so disgusting.

 

[stlvolsfan]

So Mr Stud. How’s your wasteline? I am always shocked at the not very attractive men who love to insult women’s looks.

 

[Lucy]

You know I am right!!

 

[Lucy]

I can not say how I know anymore than LadyOrange can say how she knows. I am not trying to be difficult but I am as sure DS does not negative recruit the LVs as LadyOrange is that she does. I will say I am not on staff and I do not believe the staff reads Volnation but I will inquire.

Okay, I’m not trying to be difficult either. There is just a big difference between I know and I can’t imagine or there is no reason to do that or that is out of character etc.

 

[Rickster]

Okay, I’m not trying to be difficult either. There is just a big difference between I know and I can’t imagine or there is no reason to do that or that is out of character etc.

You left out "I worship the ground she walks on so she will never do anything unethical" unless you're dumping it into the "I can't imagine" category. Whatever they have done or are doing now is effective as all get out at landing 5* players.....as bad as that sounds.

 

[GarnetGhost]

Okay, I’m not trying to be difficult either. There is just a big difference between I know and I can’t imagine or there is no reason to do that or that is out of character etc.

I agree with this. You know it is hard to prove a negative and I will say that I am not privy to every conversation that Dawn or another member of the staff has with a recruit and/or their family. Having said that I am as certain as I can be that Dawn is not negative recruiting the LVs.

 

[LadyOrange]

If you and your sources had the goods you'd be spilling them. Are you trying to imply that certain administrators within the SEC are protecting Dawn and/or turning a blind eye?

Well, in Geno’s case, he flat out broke rules and was not punished. In other cases, it’s somewhat subtle. For example, there is a D1 coach who basically recruits by telling players that Knoxville is racist as hell. Do we have racists in Knoxville. Yes we do. But every city has racists. And then the coach pours it on. Don’t go there. You’ll be treated like dirt.

 

[LadyOrange]

I agree with this. You know it is hard to prove a negative and I will say that I am not privy to every conversation that Dawn or another member of the staff has with a recruit and/or their family. Having said that I am as certain as I can be that Dawn is not negative recruiting the LVs.

You’d be surprised.

 

[Luna2012]

Yeah, I saw where that person namechecked me before they had to go back and edit their post after realizing the worst thing I said was that the fat chick was roughing up Key in the paint.

Someone else got on me for correcting a poster who said we were one and done in the tournament by telling him that we were actually two and through.

It doesn't take much to become an outlaw around here.

And just saying that is enough to call you out.

 

[Darth_Vol]

Wow, I never thought I'd be exposed. How ever did you find out my hidden secret? Yes, I'm truly a die hard UConn fan. My rarely talking about them was in the hopes of trying to hide my true identity, but you're too smart for me.

You too??? I KNEW IT! Nothing gets past the crack sleuths of this Scooby gang...

 

[stlvolsfan]

You too??? I KNEW IT! Nothing gets past the crack sleuths of this Scooby gang...

Go back to your hole Darth.

 

[shiverz]

Yep and it took her 6 years at South Carolina to get that first title. Since then they have brought in All American after all American and have managed to make it to 3 final fours. They currently have 11 and Again Sunday, the offense went away. That has been consistent with South Carolina. I find it funny when Dawn says Kim Mulkey just plays simple basketball and is just basic on the offensive end as though she has all the answers. Dawn's teams can't close on the offensive end consistently. All you need to do is lose one game and you are out of the tournament. The LSU game earlier this season when they were getting blown out before a very fortunate comeback should have been a big red flag. Missouri even more. Maybe it is their mindset.

I hope you are not saying that Dawn has underachieved because 2014,2015,2016 know one was challenging UConn. During those 3 years SC had only 1 to 4 McDonald's All American and one of them transferred out. She did have Tiffany Mitchell(ranked 46) whom she developed into a two time SEC player of the year. 2015 SC did not have any recruits. 2016 SC did not recruit any McDonald's All American. She got Ty and Kiki and developed them into WNBA draft picks. She did add 2 McD transfers in Davis and Gray and won the National Title with a total of 5 McDonalds on that squad. 2017 she picked up 1 McDonald's All American in Destanni Henderson. She also picked up Saxton that year. 2018 she only had Aja Wilson and Destanni Henderson who were McDonald's All American. After A'ja left in 2018, SC only had 2 McDonald's All Americans (Cooper and Henderson) and it showed. So Dawn just started loading up with the 19 class. Before the 19 class, SC won 4 SEC Tournament titles, 4 SEC regular season titles, 2 final 4s, and a National title. I can guarantee Tennessee had just as much, if not more talent than SC during that period. I am willing to bet there were up to 10 teams that had just as much or more talent that SC on their roster. So whatever Dawn's coaching philosophy is it worked. It was people during this period that said Dawn could not recruit. Now you have people questioning her Xs and Os while the team they pull for fight to get in the tournament every year. I am speaking in general so I'm not talking about Tennessee.

Also that 2019 squad was 32-1 and only had 4 McDonalds All American's on it not counting Amihere. So all the comments about Dawn can't coach and it is because of more talent than everyone I will ignore and let the previous facts speak for themselves. This year is the first year that SC talent level is superior to everyone besides UConn and maybe Stanford. I typed this quick on the phone so I apologize for any mistakes.

 

[shiverz]

She has a great recruiting staff that has their roster loaded with 5* players. Her teams are offensively inconsistent and frankly look similar to some of Holly's better teams. Comparing her to Kellie is not apples to apples but if you give both coaches the same players, I'll take the one coached by Kellie. No offense.

What about her success before all the talent SC recently got? When Dawn came to SC her talent level was not in the same ball park as what Kelly inherited. Holly left Kelly with some talent. Dawn didn't have a high school top 100. We will see what Kelly does in the next few years.

 

[shiverz]

Not sure how beating one of Holly’s teams proves Dawn is as good an Xs and O’s coach as Kellie?

Well Pat was still on the sideline when that happened. This is for the people who some how think Kelly is a better Xs and Os coach but have nothing to back that up with. It takes good coaching to beat a team loaded with All Americans.

 

[Rickster]

What about her success before all the talent SC recently got? When Dawn came to SC her talent level was not in the same ball park as what Kelly inherited. Holly left Kelly with some talent. Dawn didn't have a high school top 100. We will see what Kelly does in the next few years.

Still take Kellies team.....hands down.

 

[Lucy]

Well Pat was still on the sideline when that happened. This is for the people who some how think Kelly is a better Xs and Os coach but have nothing to back that up with. It takes good coaching to beat a team loaded with All Americans.

Well, here is what I said and I feel it is correct. Dawn is an exceptional recruiter. She is not a great game coach.
Unfortunately, in Pat’s last year or two her teams did not play up to their potential. We will never really know the impact of the dementia but in hindsight it seems to have been impacting the team.