I believe that, to some extent, Bama gets preferential treatment

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As I told another friend last night, Baylor could play Campbell University this weekend and their SoS would probably look better than it does now.

Until they win a significant, they don't matter. Fortunately, Baylor is about to start facing actual opponents.
 
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You have to remember that everyone on the committee has an interest in seeing the ncaa make money. That being said they want to hype the LSU and Alasalami game as much as they can. We are talking about two fan bases that will spent a crap metric ton of cash on this game.

This isn't BCS ball either. Meaning that this list will change week to week depending on the most hyped games of the week. Whoever is on the list the last week will be in. That is going to look 100% different than what it looks like now.
 
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Even if you want to job that route... Which is complete bull****... What the hell does this week have to do with the playoff? We are talking about every game leading up to the playoff.
 
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IluvdoubleD's said:
Complete bull****. They license everything that happens.
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The do not license the Playoff or the bowls. They give certification to the bowl committees that run the games, but those certifications don't come with payment.

You will not find the NCAA's logo, or even their name, on any of the material for the Playoff. They have neither requested nor received NCAA sanctioning for the Playoffs.

From the CFP's own website:

CFP Administration, LLC. was formed to manage the administrative operations of the College Football Playoff. Members of the company are the 10 FBS conferences (American Athletic, Atlantic Coast, Big 12, Big Ten, Conference USA, Mid-American, Mountain West, Pac-12, Southeastern and Sun Belt) and the University of Notre Dame.
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Do you see the NCAA in there anywhere?
 
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IluvdoubleD's said:
Even if you want to job that route... Which is complete bull****... What the hell does this week have to do with the playoff? We are talking about every game leading up to the playoff.
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You said that the committee has interest in making the NCAA money. No one on the Committee works for, or with, the NCAA.

You could argue that the Committee members want to increase TV viewers, but that isn't going to put an extra penny in the pockets of the NCAA.
 
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There is a contract. The contract exchanges money. There is advertisement. Advertisement echanges money. The ncaa has a MONETARY interest in seeing the playoffs do well.

Don't worry. Alasalami still won't win a playoff game... Because they are too big, and too fat, and too slow and there is nothing you can do about that. And when alasalami face plants....which they will, I fully expect you to disappear for the next eight months until alasalami appears in next years play off contention, just like last year.

I have dishes to do.
 
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IluvdoubleD's said:
There is a contract. The contract exchanges money. There is advertisement. Advertisement echanges money. The ncaa has a MONETARY interest in seeing the playoffs do well.

Don't worry. Alasalami still won't win a playoff game... Because they are too big, and too fat, and too slow and there is nothing you can do about that. And when alasalami face plants....which they will, I fully expect you to disappear for the next eight months until alasalami appears in next years play off contention, just like last year.

I have dishes to do.
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I hate bama just as much as the next guy but can we please stop saying Alasalami
 
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IluvdoubleD's said:
There is a contract. The contract exchanges money. There is advertisement. Advertisement echanges money. The ncaa has a MONETARY interest in seeing the playoffs do well.
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There is no contract regarding the CFP to which the NCAA is a party. They do not collect any advertising revenue from the CFP.

The NCAA runs the FCS playoffs. They do not run the FBS playoffs. No matter how much you, for whatever reason, want to believe otherwise, that is the truth.


I have dishes to do.
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I'm surprised that Denny's lets you post on VN while you're on the clock.
 
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HoptownVol said:
They play in a tougher conference. DUH!
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Then how do you explain Bama being ranked considerably higher than another team that plays in the same conference, Florida? Both teams have 1 loss.....

-Bama vs 2-loss team OleMiss, at home, who lost to Florida by 4 tds

-Florida beat the snot out of the OleMiss, who beat Bama in Tuscaloosa.....& Florida's only loss is to #2 LSU, on the road, with their second string QB.
 
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WilliamDuVOL said:
1. This is why we need an 8 team playoff. Force the B12 to have a championship game, let the winner of each P5 have an automatic bid and leave 3 spots for potential wild cards like Independents (Notre Dame types) or G5 teams with a strong resume (Memphis or Houston if they beat Memphis, for instance).

2. I think a team that manages to be unbeaten most definitely deserves that spot more than Bama. I mean can you imagine how mad we'd be if we were undefeated, but someone else with a loss gets in? What kind of message does that send to the players and fans? Basically "hey congratulations on the perfect season, but we're rewarding the chance at the ultimate victory to someone who has a loss, but it was a good loss!"
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So you would put Memphis or Houston in ahead of Alabama?
 
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KBVol said:
Then how do you explain Bama being ranked considerably higher than another team that plays in the same conference, Florida? Both teams have 1 loss.....

-Bama vs 2-loss team OleMiss, at home, who lost to Florida by 4 tds

-Florida beat the snot out of the OleMiss, who beat Bama in Tuscaloosa.....& Florida's only loss is to #2 LSU, on the road, with their second string QB.
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I'm not saying I agree with this logic, but the way Long presented it, Bama is being given credit for better wins overall. That's bolstered by playing Wisconsin OOC while Florida has yet to play their tough OOC game. There also seems to be some reasoning that the UGA team that Bama destroyed was not the same UGA team that Florida destroyed.
 
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bamawriter said:
While this is some wonderful righteous indignation, you are worrying about something that is impossible. If Bama wins out, there will be, at most, 3 undefeated teams. A one loss team will have to be included.
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Which is why I included part one of my post. The 4 team playoff system, while probably a better system than the BCS, still screws some deserving teams out of a playoff spot.
 
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WilliamDuVOL said:
Which is why I included part one of my post. The 4 team playoff system, while probably a better system than the BCS, still screws some deserving teams out of a playoff spot.
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I agree. I'm not sure where the right number is, though. 8 sounds really good, but you start getting into some logistics that are really difficult. I'm not pretending to have an answer.
 
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MyBloodRunnethOrange said:
So you would put Memphis or Houston in ahead of Alabama?
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Well, would you argue against it if a Memphis team that beat Ole Miss, who beat Bama made it in? You could make an argument either way. The transitive property doesn't apply in football, however.

It would be hard to agree with Memphis over Bama, yes, because of the strength of schedule overall. That being said, I again allude to part one of my post, which would alleviate at least some of these problems I believe.
 
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bamawriter said:
I'm not saying I agree with this logic, but the way Long presented it, Bama is being given credit for better wins overall. That's bolstered by playing Wisconsin OOC while Florida has yet to play their tough OOC game. There also seems to be some reasoning that the UGA team that Bama destroyed was not the same UGA team that Florida destroyed.
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Uhhhh...okay?

If Bama runs the table with the schedule they have left, they'll have earned a seat at the table. But right now? No.
 
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The bottom line is several teams must win out to have a spot...Bama being 1 of them. Yesterday's poll doesn't mean squat because Bama & LSU play each other on Sat.

Look at the 1st poll last year vs the last.
 
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