'i Pray To Jesus'

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#203
no...i say radicalism sponsored by anyone is equally bad. Once you are willing to kill, it doesn't get much more radical than that.
 
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#204
There are good points made all around. Take the most extreme from both sides. The Christian Lunatic fringe is greatly outnumbered by the Muslim lunatic fringe. Take it another step Christians do not use violence to enforce their beliefs as the Muslims seem more than willing to do. We have had people with ties to christian organizations do violent acts but not even close to the same extent. ( I'm not speaking about history, just here and now)
 
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#205
It is a very interesting topic to discuss.

My head quit hurting from trying to read through page 5-13.
 
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#206
justingroves said:
What's really funny is you have been arguing with two people that can't stand Obama's policies.
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Good grief, what's funny is I've been arguing with people trying to compare the two, and trying to make their point valid by belittling anyone that disagress with the. Come to think of it, it's really funny.
 
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#207
I remember way back we were talking about Obama and whether or not he was Muslim or Christian and I thought I would drop this little one liner in for the heck of it. Once a Muslim becomes a Christian, they must change their name to a Christian name and leave the Muslim name behind. Not to mention this church that Obama admits to attend, it's all very controversial.
The issue is that he is seemingly a sympathizer and a peace maker and you simply can not put these radical enemies in the time out chair and try to reason with them.
 
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Volnissniss said:
I remember way back we were talking about Obama and whether or not he was Muslim or Christian and I thought I would drop this little one liner in for the heck of it. Once a Muslim becomes a Christian, they must change their name to a Christian name and leave the Muslim name behind. Not to mention this church that Obama admits to attend, it's all very controversial.
The issue is that he is seemingly a sympathizer and a peace maker and you simply can not put these radical enemies in the time out chair and try to reason with them.
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where in the Bible does it say that someone must change their name to be a Christian?
 
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#211
Barack and Hussein are Arabic words. Why must they be limited to only Muslim?

I know Hussein means good (a point I'm sure will be rendered useless since he was named after his grandfather).

I'm pretty sure Barack means Blessed from God. Someone can look it up though.

So what is wrong with his name?
 
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OrangeEmpire said:
Nothing, why?
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If someone's name means "Blessing from God" and "good" why must he be forced to change his name? He was brought up in a household of an atheistic father, yet had the Koran and the Bible in his home. He spent a few years at a public school that taught from the Koran, but does anyone have evidence that he was ever a devout Muslim?
 
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Volnissniss said:
Once a Muslim becomes a Christian, they must change their name to a Christian name and leave the Muslim name behind.
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this quote says he's supposed to if he's a Christian. Of course, I also question whether he was ever a practicing Muslim.
 
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volfanbill said:
taken from the original Arabic word as I pointed out.
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volfanbill said:
where in the Bible does it say that someone must change their name to be a Christian?
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It's not in the bible it's in the Koran, along with another little note, the Koran also teaches that one Muslim can not ever turn in another Muslim to a "Non believer" that is why I have issue with the Moderates.
 
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