I still say Vols must beat Ole Miss in Oxford Wed AND win first SEC tourney game to #1

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Tell me I'm wrong here......but whenever NCAA can nudge us the wrong way, THEY DO! But until proven otherwise (and I hope I am) we must complete both scenarios above to be #1 seed. In fact, we would be punished as the third (7 overall) or fourth (8 overall) 2 seed pitted inside bracket with the overall 1st or 2nd #1 seed in my opinion if we do get pushed to 2 line. I know its BVS but I've seen it too often.
 
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win these last two regular season games and I think we are virtually a lock. Tournament game won’t matter.

Lose in Oxford and I think it becomes a little worse than a toss up.

We have the easiest schedule though.

Bama has to play Florida and Auburn

Florida plays Bama and Ole Miss

But if we lose and either of them go 2-0 with that schedule, I think that team enters the drivers seat.
 
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omghulkhands said:
win these last two regular season games and I think we are virtually a lock. Tournament game won’t matter.

Lose in Oxford and I think it becomes a little worse than a toss up.

We have the easiest schedule though.

Bama has to play Florida and Auburn

Florida plays Bama and Ole Miss

But if we lose and either of them go 2-0 with that schedule, I think that team enters the drivers seat.
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I agree!
 
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omghulkhands said:
win these last two regular season games and I think we are virtually a lock. Tournament game won’t matter.

Lose in Oxford and I think it becomes a little worse than a toss up.

We have the easiest schedule though.

Bama has to play Florida and Auburn

Florida plays Bama and Ole Miss

But if we lose and either of them go 2-0 with that schedule, I think that team enters the drivers seat.
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Good think Bama-Barn is a home game for Auburn. If on the road I'd see them putting out minimal effort and playing the bench a lot more minutes than normal. They've locked up a 1 seed and probably the overall top seed (kinda an irrelevant designation) and locked up the SEC regular season. Goal of the game is to not get anyone hurt.
 
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omghulkhands said:
win these last two regular season games and I think we are virtually a lock. Tournament game won’t matter.

Lose in Oxford and I think it becomes a little worse than a toss up.

We have the easiest schedule though.

Bama has to play Florida and Auburn

Florida plays Bama and Ole Miss

But if we lose and either of them go 2-0 with that schedule, I think that team enters the drivers seat.
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What if Houston and Florida win out and we lose in the SEC quarters? Don’t think I would call us a lock for a 1 seed.
 
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HiltonHeadVol said:
Tell me I'm wrong here......but whenever NCAA can nudge us the wrong way, THEY DO! But until proven otherwise (and I hope I am) we must complete both scenarios above to be #1 seed. In fact, we would be punished as the third (7 overall) or fourth (8 overall) 2 seed pitted inside bracket with the overall 1st or 2nd #1 seed in my opinion if we do get pushed to 2 line. I know its BVS but I've seen it too often.
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Recently the committee has not reacted even to winning the SEC tournament. They already have the brackets and only make changes for surprise teams that win their tournament. Lost last year no change. Won a few years ago no change. I hope we lose in round 1. Beat Ole Piss!
 
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THEONLYTENISEE said:
The SEC Tournament did effect Tennessee last year.
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Why do you say that? We had lost the 1 seed before going into the SEC tournament by losing at home to Kentucky. At the same time, UNC won at number 9 Duke and finished with 1 less loss than we had so they were the last 1 seed going into the conference tournament and I think the committee said something to that effect. We couldn’t have earned it back either because UNC won the ACC tournament so there was no way to have better tournament results than them.
 
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omghulkhands said:
win these last two regular season games and I think we are virtually a lock. Tournament game won’t matter.

Lose in Oxford and I think it becomes a little worse than a toss up.

We have the easiest schedule though.

Bama has to play Florida and Auburn

Florida plays Bama and Ole Miss

But if we lose and either of them go 2-0 with that schedule, I think that team enters the drivers seat.
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This sounds about right. 2-0, 1 seed probably locked up especially if Florida and bama each drop one more game this week.

1-1 and then it really depends on the Florida and bama games plus maybe even SEC tournament.
 
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wtmvol said:
What if Houston and Florida win out and we lose in the SEC quarters? Don’t think I would call us a lock for a 1 seed.
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We have played a tougher overall schedule than UF. Surely that will mean something but I’d hope Bama will make sure that doesn’t matter for us. Wednesday night will tell us a lot. Either UF drops a game or not (unlikely to lose at home that last game) and either we get another good road win or not.
 
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HiltonHeadVol said:
Tell me I'm wrong here......but whenever NCAA can nudge us the wrong way, THEY DO! But until proven otherwise (and I hope I am) we must complete both scenarios above to be #1 seed. In fact, we would be punished as the third (7 overall) or fourth (8 overall) 2 seed pitted inside bracket with the overall 1st or 2nd #1 seed in my opinion if we do get pushed to 2 line. I know it’s BVS but I've seen it too often.
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You’re probably correct but we just need to be playing our best ball at the end of the year and it won’t matter who we are playing .
 
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VolArmy74 said:
We need to beat Ole Miss and South Carolina to stay in contention for the 1-seed, unless everyone around us also loses.

The SEC T should have no effect on the seeding.
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It’s highly likely Tennessee gets a #1 seed.

But, again, I think some of you are undervaluing the conference tournament.

Alabama or Florida winning out (including the tournament) I promise you would get a #1 seed. That’s not likely, but we’re talking possibility not probability.

Winning the sec tournament means getting another win against 2 teams (assuming seeds hold and I know often they don’t) of Auburn, Alabama, Florida, and Tennessee. In Alabamas case, they have the potential to win four games against these opponents. Florida has the potential to win three.
 
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ABtheVolsfan92 said:
exactly I keep seeing this argument that the conference tourneys don't matter. They do up until the sunday game, we lost our 1 seed last year because we lost to Miss St in the opening game
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We didn’t though. We lost to UK the game before- last regular season game. UNC was ahead of us in the reveal and never lost again until their conference finals. After the UK loss, we weren’t moving up.
 
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hUTch2002 said:
Why do you say that? We had lost the 1 seed before going into the SEC tournament by losing at home to Kentucky. At the same time, UNC won at number 9 Duke and finished with 1 less loss than we had so they were the last 1 seed going into the conference tournament and I think the committee said something to that effect. We couldn’t have earned it back either because UNC won the ACC tournament so there was no way to have better tournament results than them.
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UNC also beat us last year.
 
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Hopefully the Vols have a good contingent of fans there that that make the short trip over from Memphis to Oxford.
There are fairly cheap tickets available. They seat 9500.

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We aren’t getting a 1 seed. If the gata wins out they get it. It’s a popularity contest and that never favors UT. They will probably use losing to ky twice against us.
Doesn’t matter. Just win.
 
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99gator said:
It’s highly likely Tennessee gets a #1 seed.

But, again, I think some of you are undervaluing the conference tournament.

Alabama or Florida winning out (including the tournament) I promise you would get a #1 seed. That’s not likely, but we’re talking possibility not probability.

Winning the sec tournament means getting another win against 2 teams (assuming seeds hold and I know often they don’t) of Auburn, Alabama, Florida, and Tennessee. In Alabamas case, they have the potential to win four games against these opponents. Florida has the potential to win three.
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Supposedly the confrence tournaments have no bearing on the upper seeds in the ncaa tournament. I don’t really believe that but have heard it for years
 
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ZZ13 said:
Good think Bama-Barn is a home game for Auburn. If on the road I'd see them putting out minimal effort and playing the bench a lot more minutes than normal. They've locked up a 1 seed and probably the overall top seed (kinda an irrelevant designation) and locked up the SEC regular season. Goal of the game is to not get anyone hurt.
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This ain't a football game. No, Bruce will play to win all the way til the NCAA championship game comes to a close. That is if A-barn is still in it.
 
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HiltonHeadVol said:
Tell me I'm wrong here......but whenever NCAA can nudge us the wrong way, THEY DO! But until proven otherwise (and I hope I am) we must complete both scenarios above to be #1 seed. In fact, we would be punished as the third (7 overall) or fourth (8 overall) 2 seed pitted inside bracket with the overall 1st or 2nd #1 seed in my opinion if we do get pushed to 2 line. I know its BVS but I've seen it too often.
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Yep. Any excuse will do. Personally, I think we need to win out and win a game in the SECT to feel somewhat confident. Bama and UF are still very much a threat to get the nod.... especially UF if they also beat Bama. I think our best shot is for Bama to beat UF and Auburn to beat Bama.
 
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Thus that come into play:

Florida plays @ Alabama
Alabama plays @ Auburn
Best case is for Alabama to beat Florida and Auburn to beat Alabama.

Tennessee is 10-5 in Quad 1 games
Florida is 6-4 in Quad 1 games
Big advantage Tennessee is total Quad 1 wins and Quad 1 games played.

If Tennessee goes 2-0 they appear to be lock for #1. If they lose to Ole Miss and beat USC it will be determined by the two games above.

I don’t think SEC tourney will be a factor unless a team flames out early and one of the other two runs the table.
 
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