I swear, democrats are scum! Obama Administration Reverses Course, Forbids Sale of 85

[lawgator1]

what problems do you speak of exactly?

Being unable to make sure that so many guns, all at once, don't end up with a bunch slipping through the cracks to terrorists, felons, etc.

So you're admitting you were wrong. Great...

No, I am acknolwedging that "gun control," in its broadest sense, is implicated by this decision, not that the Second Amendment is.

Because it isn't.

Do you think anyone in this administration actually knows an M1 from a Tootsie Roll? I seriously doubt it. Their immediate reaction is probably "Oooo, guns scare me!"... :ermm:

If the sale ever does come about, I would love to get one of the Garands for my collection. :yes:

Well, at least you are keeping it at a sophisticated level. What I really appreciate is that you don't oversimplify and are not dismissive of a decision and administration you simply don't like.

Is there any government tyranny that you object to? Any liberty you are not willing to surrender?

The right of the Gators to annually beat the Vols like a red headed stepchild is pretty precious.

Although it is in danger of getting boring.

 

[droski]

Being unable to make sure that so many guns, all at once, don't end up with a bunch slipping through the cracks to terrorists, felons, etc.

and it's your belief that these groups might have a problem getting ahold of assault rifles if they didn't have this supply?

 

[DC Vol]

Being unable to make sure that so many guns, all at once, don't end up with a bunch slipping through the cracks to terrorists, felons, etc.

This is laughable. Clearly you don't know anything about the rifle South Korea is selling when compared to modern assault rifles.

With that said... I would love to have a M1 Carbine.

 

[DC Vol]

and it's your belief that these groups might have a problem getting ahold of assault rifles if they didn't have this supply?

Why acquire a far more deadly 6.8mm AR15 for $800 when you can buy a 60-80 year old antique?

 

[justingroves]

Why acquire a far more deadly 6.8mm AR15 for $800 when you can buy a 60-80 year old antique?

It's cool to terrorize with vintage stuff. Didn't you know?

How anyone can say felons, terrorists etc would attempt to use a 60 year old or so outdated rifle for criminal activities is beyond me.

 

[OrangeEmpire]

Only in the biggest philosophical sense, i.e. the decision being made that flooding that many guns into the system at once might cause problems versus let there be as many guns as possible.

But its not the equivalent of taking a gun from someone who has it, or of banning the already-existing sources of production or sale.

WTF!?!

Flooding that many guns, are you completely clueless??????????????????

How do you people live day to day?

 

[MG1968]

well, if you look closely at the footage from yesterday's situation in Maryland, James G. Lee was clearly holding a blunderbuss.

 

[OrangeEmpire]

well, if you look closely at the footage from yesterday's situation in Maryland, James G. Lee was clearly holding a blunderbuss.

I don't care who you are, this is funny!

:lolabove:

 

[lawgator1]

well, if you look closely at the footage from yesterday's situation in Maryland, James G. Lee was clearly holding a blunderbuss.

I love referring to Korean War-era weapons as "antiques." Makes me wonder if people have the slightest clue as to the definitions of the words they use.

 

[OrangeEmpire]

I love referring to Korean War-era weapons as "antiques." Makes me wonder if people have the slightest clue as to the definitions of the words they use.

You are worried about 850,000 antiques which the over whelming majority will be bought by collectorrs yet you could care less about the multiple millions of weapons that are traded used on American streets.

For pete's sake, the last prescint sweep in Columbus yielded 1487 weapons and this was a 10 block area.

Get a freakin clue!

 

[DC Vol]

It's cool to terrorize with vintage stuff. Didn't you know?

How anyone can say felons, terrorists etc would attempt to use a 60 year old or so outdated rifle for criminal activities is beyond me.

Better watch out for the terrorists armed with muzzle-loading .75 caliber Brown Bess muskets.

 

[MG1968]

I love referring to Korean War-era weapons as "antiques." Makes me wonder if people have the slightest clue as to the definitions of the words they use.

what else would they be referred to as? A 60-year old, single shot, extremely heavy rifle is not going to be the terrorist/gang banger's first, second, or even 200th choice. Ammo is rare and most owners either load their own or they buy it custom, two things Ramsi al-Kaboom and Thug Fizzle aren't going to be bothered with.

 

[OrangeEmpire]

First of all a criminal is going to use a light compact weapon not a semi automatic rifle.

If LG had any clue about any thing, he would realize a criminal would not take an 8 round rifle to any kind of fight.

 

[DC Vol]

I love referring to Korean War-era weapons as "antiques." Makes me wonder if people have the slightest clue as to the definitions of the words they use.

an·tique (

n-t

k

)adj.

1. Belonging to, made in, or typical of an earlier period.

Before I eviscerate you... do you know anything about firearms or are you doing your usual act of feigning knowledge?

 

[hohenfelsvol]

The right of the Gators to annually beat the Vols like a red headed stepchild is pretty precious.

Although it is in danger of getting boring.

Enjoy it. It won't last forever. Just like the current administration.

 

[lawgator1]

By definition, an antique is at least 100 years old. These are, according to your own article, 50 years old.

The correct term is obviously "vintage" which is generally used to describe something at least 20-25 years old.

However, this was a Fox News story. And so falsely caling them "antiques" so as to paint the administration's decision as obviously unnecessary was a lot more fun for them notwithstanding the fact that it is, by definition, false.

 

[J-P]

I love referring to Korean War-era weapons as "antiques." Makes me wonder if people have the slightest clue as to the definitions of the words they use.

I love that you don't have the slightest inclination to inform yourself on a subject before you spout off. :lolabove:

A rifle that was developed in the mid 1930s and was used in WWII and Korea is indeed an antique.

 

[DC Vol]

And, to be fair, a bulk of the rifles are the M1 Carbines. While not as antiquated as the M1 Garand... they're far less capable of a rifle than any 5.56 or 6.8mm rifle that is easily available.

 

[lawgator1]

I love that you don't have the slightest inclination to inform yourself on a subject before you spout off. :lolabove:

A rifle that was developed in the mid 1930s and was used in WWII and Korea is indeed an antique.

Blatantly false.

 

[J-P]

The Sig P228 I carry has more rounds in one clip than the M-1 does, and I can conceal that.

 

[droski]

Blatantly false.

would this be your first choice for a getaway vehicle?

 

[lawgator1]

In fact, I am reading now that federal law defines antique in relation to firearms as made before 1898.


Antique guns - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So whether you go by traditional dictionary definitions or federal law, it is blatantly wrong to refer to a 50 year old gun as an antique.

However, it is as I say more fun to mislead your audience of mouth-breathing idiots by calling these guns antiques.

 

[DC Vol]

By definition, an antique is at least 100 years old. These are, according to your own article, 50 years old.

The correct term is obviously "vintage" which is generally used to describe something at least 20-25 years old.

However, this was a Fox News story. And so falsely caling them "antiques" so as to paint the administration's decision as obviously unnecessary was a lot more fun for them notwithstanding the fact that it is, by definition, false.

The state of Virginia, for example, only requires cars to be over 45 years of age to be considered antique. Those rifles are seen as and sold as antiques.

Usually it will vary on definition due to an item's designed lifetime. Hence the difference between mechanical and non-mechanical items.

 

[J-P]

By definition, an antique is at least 100 years old. These are, according to your own article, 50 years old.

The correct term is obviously "vintage" which is generally used to describe something at least 20-25 years old.

However, this was a Fox News story. And so falsely caling them "antiques" so as to paint the administration's decision as obviously unnecessary was a lot more fun for them notwithstanding the fact that it is, by definition, false.

Semantics. Call it antique or call it vintage, the point is that they are collector guns, not bad guy guns.

 

[vol_in_ar]

what else would they be referred to as? A 60-year old, single shot, extremely heavy rifle is not going to be the terrorist/gang banger's first, second, or even 200th choice. Ammo is rare and most owners either load their own or they buy it custom, two things Ramsi al-Kaboom and Thug Fizzle aren't going to be bothered with.

great names