I think Milton will be limited running Saturday

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I'm not sure how many true QB runs will be called but I find it difficult to imagine we won't need Joe to take any legit rushing opportunities. Even just a handful of 5 yarders here or there could very well make a difference.
 
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#16vol said:
Wondering if Hendon was Heupals Tebow. Urban was never as good after Tebow graduated.Just speculation. Hope I'm wrong
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Urban's next QB after Tebow was a guy named Cam Newton.

Cam got himself a laptop while at FL but unfortunately it wasn't his laptop. In a rare move for Urban and FL, they did the right thing and booted Cam.

I dislike Urban Meyer. He's a dirtbag to his family and his coaches. Urban Meyer, however, could both recruit and run the spread.
 
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chattavol420 said:
I was thinking about this the other day. When Heupel started his tenure as coach here, we all expected him to rotate a couple of different players until somebody had convincingly won the job out on the field. Milton didn’t have great numbers in preseason scrimmages. Both Hooker and Bailey at times posted better numbers than Milton. Yet even prior to the season starting it became known that it would be Milton’s job.

Then, the season started and Milton was horrendous. We immediately were seeing these defensive breakdowns and receivers running wide open (that the Heupel system is known for) only to see Joe Milton throw some of the worst passes ever. He’d throw the ball all the way out of the back of the end zone to a guy that has nobody within 10 yards of him…only 20 yards pass the line of scrimmage. These were basic high school level throws. No matter how bad Milton play nobody else was going to take a meaningful snap until he got injured.

As soon as Milton went down, we immediately recognized Hooker was the man. Hooker instantly proved had “the it factor”. What would the narrative be on Josh Heupel right now had he not been forced to play hooker? Heupel was given the ultimate opportunity to see his mistake corrected. A gift from god. I think most of us expected towards the end of that first year or going into the second year that he would have a different replacement ready to go after Hooker.

But nope…we went right back to the only real mistake Heupel has made as coach here.

Sometimes really intelligent people make mistakes. But you can’t be too arrogant and stubborn to fix those mistakes even when you have done a lot of other things well. I’m afraid that’s what we’re seeing here. I think we’re going to end up with a 8–5 season, and it is all going to be related to Milton’s inability to play the position at a high level. But honestly, the responsibility won’t fall on Milton. It should fall on the coach that keeps putting him out there, even though he is clearly telling the players in practice, that if they don’t perform… They won’t play.
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After decimating Vandy and beating up on Clemson last year, we are 4 games in, coming off a nearly flawless 31-0 first half last week, and this is your take?
 
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hndog609 said:
I'm not sure how many true QB runs will be called but I find it difficult to imagine we won't need Joe to take any legit rushing opportunities. Even just a handful of 5 yarders here or there could very well make a difference.
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Spot on here. The QB run helps hold the DE just a second so when the running back does get the ball it gives him the opportunity to get by the DE. 5 yards by the running back or QB is the same in my opinion.
 
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jason3713 said:
I haven’t seen anyone talk about his injury. He was throwing pretty well up until he got twisted up on the sack. He came back in a knee brace. He was limping and that’s when he couldn’t complete a pass.

I sprained my knee in high school and college ball. It hurts and annoying to play with when you do it. The problem is when the game is over and you quit moving it locks up. The next week or two it’s a lot harder to go than it was to keep going.
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You didn’t see the thread with some creeper’s picture of him at UT getting an MRI?
 
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butchna said:
Yet won another NC at Ohio State and a load of games. Heupel won with two different QBs at UCF, and is three games into his second one at UT. I’d reassure yourself that it’s highly probable that you’re wrong.
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Thank you for the response. It puts that thought to rest. Should've done my research. Go Vols!!
Bring on some titles Heupal!
 
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RDU VOL#14 said:
Interesting…
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My goodness that is an eye-popping statistic. I suspected that, while not being as quick, he has better top-end speed than Hendon. I really hope we see him live up to some fraction of his potential in the next 8-9 games, but he will be a high draft pick if Richardson and Levis are any indication, and that will be good for our brand regardless.
 
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chattavol420 said:
I was thinking about this the other day. When Heupel started his tenure as coach here, we all expected him to rotate a couple of different players until somebody had convincingly won the job out on the field. Milton didn’t have great numbers in preseason scrimmages. Both Hooker and Bailey at times posted better numbers than Milton. Yet even prior to the season starting it became known that it would be Milton’s job.

Then, the season started and Milton was horrendous. We immediately were seeing these defensive breakdowns and receivers running wide open (that the Heupel system is known for) only to see Joe Milton throw some of the worst passes ever. He’d throw the ball all the way out of the back of the end zone to a guy that has nobody within 10 yards of him…only 20 yards pass the line of scrimmage. These were basic high school level throws. No matter how bad Milton play nobody else was going to take a meaningful snap until he got injured.

As soon as Milton went down, we immediately recognized Hooker was the man. Hooker instantly proved had “the it factor”. What would the narrative be on Josh Heupel right now had he not been forced to play hooker? Heupel was given the ultimate opportunity to see his mistake corrected. A gift from god. I think most of us expected towards the end of that first year or going into the second year that he would have a different replacement ready to go after Hooker.

But nope…we went right back to the only real mistake Heupel has made as coach here.

Sometimes really intelligent people make mistakes. But you can’t be too arrogant and stubborn to fix those mistakes even when you have done a lot of other things well. I’m afraid that’s what we’re seeing here. I think we’re going to end up with a 8–5 season, and it is all going to be related to Milton’s inability to play the position at a high level. But honestly, the responsibility won’t fall on Milton. It should fall on the coach that keeps putting him out there, even though he is clearly telling the players in practice, that if they don’t perform… They won’t play.
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I completely agree. We all would like to see Milton succeed. I think Nico or even Gaston deserve a chance to show what they have sooner than later.
The Florida game was very disappointing. Could be due to the draft. I don't know to be honest.
 
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Other_Guy said:
I honestly think Joe running is crucial to them winning the game.
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Joe Milton through almost 6 years playing CFB has played 35 games. He has 497 rush yards, 80 something of those came last week. So he averages roughly 14 rushing YPG throughout his almost 6 year career.

Point is, after all this time, he isn't going to all the sudden start taking off running. He isn't Hooker, as much as need him or want him to be.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
I tried to find some verification of this on the net. Found none. Someone who has Twitter might read the comments and see if someone called this out as sketchy.
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I’m not sure if anyone has questioned it’s legitimacy in the comments, but the account has 140k followers, quite a few who are well known college and pro analysts and announcers.
 
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SCAR basically has 5 defensive linemen on the roster. Wear those 5 out by running a fast pace and ramming the ball down their throat with run after run and Bob's your uncle
 
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RDU VOL#14 said:
I’m not sure if anyone has questioned it’s legitimacy in the comments, but the account has 140k followers, quite a few who are well known college and pro analysts and announcers.
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News like Milton being that fast in a game would be pretty hot, though, and I've not seen it mentioned anywhere else.

When Hyatt was blazing up camp and in games, it was spread around. I've not seen this Milton story anywhere else.
 
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chattavol420 said:
I was thinking about this the other day. When Heupel started his tenure as coach here, we all expected him to rotate a couple of different players until somebody had convincingly won the job out on the field. Milton didn’t have great numbers in preseason scrimmages. Both Hooker and Bailey at times posted better numbers than Milton. Yet even prior to the season starting it became known that it would be Milton’s job.

Then, the season started and Milton was horrendous. We immediately were seeing these defensive breakdowns and receivers running wide open (that the Heupel system is known for) only to see Joe Milton throw some of the worst passes ever. He’d throw the ball all the way out of the back of the end zone to a guy that has nobody within 10 yards of him…only 20 yards pass the line of scrimmage. These were basic high school level throws. No matter how bad Milton play nobody else was going to take a meaningful snap until he got injured.

As soon as Milton went down, we immediately recognized Hooker was the man. Hooker instantly proved had “the it factor”. What would the narrative be on Josh Heupel right now had he not been forced to play hooker? Heupel was given the ultimate opportunity to see his mistake corrected. A gift from god. I think most of us expected towards the end of that first year or going into the second year that he would have a different replacement ready to go after Hooker.

But nope…we went right back to the only real mistake Heupel has made as coach here.

Sometimes really intelligent people make mistakes. But you can’t be too arrogant and stubborn to fix those mistakes even when you have done a lot of other things well. I’m afraid that’s what we’re seeing here. I think we’re going to end up with a 8–5 season, and it is all going to be related to Milton’s inability to play the position at a high level. But honestly, the responsibility won’t fall on Milton. It should fall on the coach that keeps putting him out there, even though he is clearly telling the players in practice, that if they don’t perform… They won’t play.
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Well said, those are my feelings as well. I think Heupel is just too stubborn to make a change at this point. I for one would love to see Gaston Moore in the lineup, he was great in the spring game, he should at least be given a chance. It makes no sense to me!
 
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