I thought for sure TPers were behind the TS bomb scare

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lawgator1 said:
I agree he looks really bad right now, it was a chance he did not need to take at the time he took it. Should have said he didn't know -- because he didn't.

But that was a political mistake from him. It does not mean that there wasn't a basis for him to speculate in the manner he did, both because 1) we've seen low level and unsophisticated threat and violence from homegrown zealots of our own and 2) the lack of sophistication in this effort was not what we've come to expect from the overseas adversary.
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What was the basis to specifically say it could be someone angry with the HC bill but not say any other possible reason? The fact that there's been a full-on offensive to label TP folks as violent and dangerous (see Bill Clinton)?

I repeat, if I lived in NY I'd be worried Bloomy is focusing on the wrong threats.
 
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has there been a single recorded instance of violence at a TP rally, or violence advocated by any person associated with the TP? It seems as if the left really wants to create a boogeyman, yet has failed at every turn.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Given the complete incongruity between the complex attack efforts we have seen from Al-Qaeda in the past versus this effort, which was firecrackers and $8 alarm clocks held together with chewing gum, I'd say that the speculation on the front end that it was not foreign terrorism wasn't ridiculous.

Bloomberg looks like a fool for saying it -- he should have just said no one knows right now -- but its not like most people didn't on the front end doubt some organized and sophisticated planning.

In fact, it may yet turn out that this was the Islamic terrorist version of Amateur Hour.
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The UF grads of the Muslim world, I suppose.
 
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MG1968 said:
has there been a single recorded instance of violence at a TP rally, or violence advocated by any person associated with the TP? It seems as if the left really wants to create a boogeyman, yet has failed at every turn.
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Death toll at the hands of teaparty members: 0
Death toll at the hands of Islam: countless
 
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Times Square was a feint............................. it was a message to our government at the local, state and federal level that "we" (terrorists) can do what we want when we want.

Scary........
 
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droski said:
A member of the Al Qaeda-allied Pakistani militant group Jaish-e-Muhammad is being held by authorities in Pakistan. That man spent time with Faisal Shahzad, the person charged in the failed bomb plot, although sources say that does not mean Jaish-e-Muhammad engineered the plot.

Link emerges between Times Square bomb attempt and Pakistani militant group - latimes.com

once again bloomberg and LG are wrong.
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I am toying with the notion that you actually can't read.
 
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i see so your contention is they were just having a friendly converstation over some falafel or something?
 
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droski said:
i see so your contention is they were just having a friendly converstation over some falafel or something?
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I doubt that, but you can't go from "had a meeting" to "trained."

We've seen the lack of wisdom in such assumptions before. See e.g. Iraq.
 
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so you think he got arrested for having a meeting with someone? i once had a meeting with a guy who just got arrested for a hedge fund ponzi scheme. haven't been arested yet.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I doubt that, but you can't go from "had a meeting" to "trained."

We've seen the lack of wisdom in such assumptions before. See e.g. Iraq.
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You do know that Hussien was paying the families of suicide bombers for any attack against the West. He was also helping to fund other terrorists groups.

You knew that, right?
 
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CountVolcula said:
You do know that Hussien was paying the families of suicide bombers for any attack against the West. He was also helping to fund other terrorists groups.

You knew that, right?
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I know that we were sold on the notion that Iraqi agents were meeting with the 9/11 terrorists.
 
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droski said:
the dems like to ignore that both clintons said they saw evidence when bill was president that indicated saddam had WMDs.
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Dodge it again by changing the subject.

Whatever the case was with WMD and what we thought we knew, the point is that the mere fact that they met cannot be construed to prove that the guy was Al-Qaeda trained and supported.

The article you quote actually says so. Yet you say that anyone who doubts this was an Al-Qaeda operation is proven wrong by the fact of the meeting.
 
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am I the only person who remembers a request by Saddam for the US to stop U2 overflights, and the request being granted? This was during the run up to the war, and because the overflights were part of the UN-cease fire, the US had to cease since the UN approved the request.

Then, do you remember the huge bunker complex that had been sealed by the UN, but when the US military arrived, all the bunkers' seals had been broken and their contents were gone?

Saddam had WMD's, he had a lot of them.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Dodge it again by changing the subject.

Whatever the case was with WMD and what we thought we knew, the point is that the mere fact that they met cannot be construed to prove that the guy was Al-Qaeda trained and supported.

The article you quote actually says so. Yet you say that anyone who doubts this was an Al-Qaeda operation is proven wrong by the fact of the meeting.
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sorry i have some common sense and think that a guy who spent 3 months in pakistan right before the bombing and met with high level al qaeda officials might have gotten a little help from al qeda.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Dodge it again by changing the subject.

Whatever the case was with WMD and what we thought we knew, the point is that the mere fact that they met cannot be construed to prove that the guy was Al-Qaeda trained and supported.

The article you quote actually says so. Yet you say that anyone who doubts this was an Al-Qaeda operation is proven wrong by the fact of the meeting.
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He never said trained by Al-Qaeda, he said Al-Qaeda allied group. Did you miss the allied on purpose or accident?
 
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