I wonder if we have interest in Jim kelly's

[American Pig]

So you're basically saying Peterman is clearly better than Worley, but our coaches are for some reason playing someone that doesn't give us the best chance to win. Also, considering Worleys numbers last week, and so far today, Peterman must be completing like 85% of his passes.

Nope. I basically said what I wrote. You tried to spin it.

 

[triad280]

I thought he looked shaky the other night in limited action. How is he getting better? Dobbs will pass him up and has a bigger upside. I hope Dobbs redshirts....

Nationdom and BeattieFeathers have to be the same guy... 2 people cant be this misinformed about everything,can they?

by all accounts,outside of the O&W game,Dobbs has not gotten better...you should see your biggest improvement from FR to SO year,Dobbs hasn't... he may eventually get it,but all spring and fall,he has fallen down the depth chart for a reason...

 

[Diceman]

Nope. I basically said what I wrote. You tried to spin it.

Lol much more accurate with the legs to run the offense. I mean, what else would one take from that? Still sticking by the accuracy claim after the first two weeks of real football? Practice doesn't mean much.

 

[American Pig]

Lol much more accurate with the legs to run the offense. I mean, what else would one take from that? Still sticking by the accuracy claim after the first two weeks of real football? Practice doesn't mean much.

More spin. Focus son.

 

[AboveAllNations]

I know he won because I watched the video of each and every practice. Peterman was VERY accurate and rarely missed. He was the only QB hitting the long passes consistently and all his passes were placed well for the receivers. Others noticed too. Peterman was promoted to #2 for his performance.
Worley was chosen to start because he brings game management experience. The offense is ridiculously young and inexperienced, so Jones wants to keep as much experienced leadership on the field as possible.

 

[American Pig]

That's cute. Inane, but cute.

 

[sanddune50]

I know he won because I watched the video of each and every practice. Peterman was VERY accurate and rarely missed. He was the only QB hitting the long passes consistently and all his passes were placed well for the receivers. Others noticed too. Peterman was promoted to #2 for his performance.
Worley was chosen to start because he brings game management experience. The offense is ridiculously young and inexperienced, so Jones wants to keep as much experienced leadership on the field as possible.

I do think the offense would be more dynamic with Peterman at the helm. I think a lot of the problem with the fans perception of Peterman was last year's game in the Swamp when he was put in a horrible situation. Peterman gives us a legit threat out of the backfield which would prevent defenses from keying in on our RBs when they know Worley is never going to keep it.

 

[ptclaus98]

Chad Kelly? No. Actually not no, but **** no.

 

[American Pig]

I do think the offense would be more dynamic with Peterman at the helm. I think a lot of the problem with the fans perception of Peterman was last year's game in the Swamp when he was put in a horrible situation. Peterman gives us a legit threat out of the backfield which would prevent defenses from keying in on our RBs when they know Worley is never going to keep it.

Agree 100%. We are limited and predictable with Worley. Worley does bring immediate experience to the job and seems to manage things well, but the offensive firepower suffers.

 

[jarnol32]

I thought he looked shaky the other night in limited action. How is he getting better? Dobbs will pass him up and has a bigger upside. I hope Dobbs redshirts....

Let's see... Peterman has better arm strength than Dobbs. Peterman is more accurate than Dobbs. Peterman is faster than Dobbs. Peterman is bigger than Dobbs . But Dobbs has bigger upside??? Smdh ...

 

[Diceman]

More spin. Focus son.

I have a better idea, you tell me how I'm wrong, instead of attempting to deflect with cutesy quips. I'm not spinning anything. I'm reading what you said, and coming to logical conclusions. I suspect you realize how silly you sounded, and are trying to avoid actually talking about the heart of the matter or trying to explain how I'm wrong, and instead are just accusing me of spin when I'm not.

 

[American Pig]

I have a better idea, you tell me how I'm wrong, instead of attempting to deflect with cutesy quips. I'm not spinning anything. I'm reading what you said, and coming to logical conclusions. I suspect you realize how silly you sounded, and are trying to avoid actually talking about the heart of the matter or trying to explain how I'm wrong, and instead are just accusing me of spin when I'm not.

How about you engage what I actually said, rather than twisting what I said into something that you wish I said.

I said that Peterman won the summer camp sessions IN TERMS OF SKILL. Got that 'in terms of skill' qualifier? Good.
You spun that into "basically Peterman was the best choice, but the coaches ignored it....." BS. Then you made some irrelevant appeal to Saturday's game where Peterman did not play.

Worley was chosen for his game management experience to lead an extremely inexperienced offensive squad that badly needed some leadership at the helm.
Worley is a decent QB capable of short passes while making few mistakes. However, in the summer camp, Peterman blew the doors off Worley and Dobbs in terms of raw passing skills. Peterman was consistently accurate at every range. He placed the ball exactly where receivers could easily catch and run. Timing was very good. Receivers were not diving, jumping three feet in the air, dropping to their knees or snatching underthrown balls away from defenders.

Peterman should be afforded some meaningful game experience to develop against softer competition before being thrown to the wolves if Worley goes down. This should have happened in these first two games. If Oklahoma injures Worley, Peterman is set up for failure.

 

[WallyBalls]

How did you get full practice videos?


I mean, surely you're not basing your conclusion on the little 10 minute clips that the media was allowed to film at the beginning of summer practices.



Are you?

 

[DaddyChad]

What I meant by proven is he has been playing QB for a lot longer than JJ. And he has proven he has a lot of talent at the position.

Didn't he miss most if not all his junior year? I like Dormady and I think he will be the man but not as a freshman.

 

[themicah85]

That Chad Kelly kid is like 5x the douche bray was. We absolutely do not need him

 

[Diceman]

How about you engage what I actually said, rather than twisting what I said into something that you wish I said.

I said that Peterman won the summer camp sessions IN TERMS OF SKILL. Got that 'in terms of skill' qualifier? Good.
You spun that into "basically Peterman was the best choice, but the coaches ignored it....." BS. Then you made some irrelevant appeal to Saturday's game where Peterman did not play.

Worley was chosen for his game management experience to lead an extremely inexperienced offensive squad that badly needed some leadership at the helm.
Worley is a decent QB capable of short passes while making few mistakes. However, in the summer camp, Peterman blew the doors off Worley and Dobbs in terms of raw passing skills. Peterman was consistently accurate at every range. He placed the ball exactly where receivers could easily catch and run. Timing was very good. Receivers were not diving, jumping three feet in the air, dropping to their knees or snatching underthrown balls away from defenders.

Peterman should be afforded some meaningful game experience to develop against softer competition before being thrown to the wolves if Worley goes down. This should have happened in these first two games. If Oklahoma injures Worley, Peterman is set up for failure.

I didn't even bring up the second part of your post where you talked about Peterman winning some mythical competition in terms of skill. I don't have issues with reading comprehension, and your qualifier doesn't matter because that's not what I was discussing. I didn't twist anything. You said that Peterman is a far more accurate passer than both Worley and Dobbs. Most, if not all, would agree that Peterman is as fast, if not faster, than Dobbs, clearly faster than Worley. So, if he is so much more accurate than Worley, and faster, do you really think it's a crazy conclusion that he would give us the best chance to win? Or do you think he has such poor intangibles that Worley gives us the best chance to win in spite of Petermans huge physical advantage over him? You can say that I was twisting your words, or whatever you want, but unless you want to claim that Peterman is so far behind in terms of the mental and leadership aspects of leading the offense that it puts him behind Worley in spite of Peterman being "much more accurate", then you're essentially admitting that you're full of crap. Even still you keep talking about how Peterman blew the doors off all the other QBs all summer, but you get all bent out of shape that I said you implied the coaches are playing someone that doesn't give us the best chance to win. Are you serious? Isn't the guy that "blows the doors" off of his competition the one that gives us the best chance to win? I haven't even gotten into how you're coming to these assumptions based on one-minute clips from practice that were literally a small fraction of the reps they took.

 

[American Pig]

I didn't even bring up the second part of your post where you talked about Peterman winning some mythical competition in terms of skill. I don't have issues with reading comprehension, and your qualifier doesn't matter because that's not what I was discussing.

Peterman's passing skills in summer camp competition that you now claim to be 'mythical' was the entire basis of my assessment. There was no other. For you to claim that the competition was 'mythical' or that you were not addressing this point is sheer BS. Your attack failed. Get over it.

You're just angry and grasping for some point. Tell ya what, don't knee-jerk attack favorable comments on Peterman with BS spin, and I won't nail you for it.

 

[Diceman]

Peterman's passing skills in summer camp competition that you now claim to be 'mythical' was the entire basis of my assessment. There was no other. For you to claim that the competition was 'mythical' or that you were not addressing this point is sheer BS. Your attack failed. Get over it.

You're just angry and grasping for some point. Tell ya what, don't knee-jerk attack favorable comments on Peterman with BS spin, and I won't nail you for it.

Well it's mythical, or the coaches are playing the loser of it. You've been so adamant that I made it up that you ever implied that, so I guess you still insist on having it both ways. I didn't knee-jerk attack anything. I love Peterman, I just thought your comments were silly. You've posted a few times since then, and none of your posts have clarified or made any sense. You're far too interested in trying to nail me (creepy). I can easily see now though that you have no clue about any of this. There's a saying about arguing with fools, so I'm going to stop. Go ahead and get your last word in, I'm not going to respond. I've wasted enough time trying to make sense out of your nonsense.

 

[butchna]

I don't want Chad Kelly on the team... because he's not good enough. The End. :good!:

 

[American Pig]

Well it's mythical, or the coaches are playing the loser of it. You've been so adamant that I made it up that you ever implied that, so I guess you still insist on having it both ways. I didn't knee-jerk attack anything. I love Peterman, I just thought your comments were silly. You've posted a few times since then, and none of your posts have clarified or made any sense. You're far too interested in trying to nail me (creepy). I can easily see now though that you have no clue about any of this. There's a saying about arguing with fools, so I'm going to stop. Go ahead and get your last word in, I'm not going to respond. I've wasted enough time trying to make sense out of your nonsense.

When you claim summer the camp QB competition never happened (mythical), you are either ignorant or lying. Which is it?

You are spinning out more BS trying to cover your past failures. What exactly are you trying to argue? What exactly were you attacking if not my assessment of the passing skills of Peterman derived from the hundreds of throws on video - from Peterman, Worley and Dobbs?

Dice, if you come out here attacking me, don't whine when I castrate you. Now beat it.

 

[American Pig]

I thought he looked shaky the other night in limited action. How is he getting better? Dobbs will pass him up and has a bigger upside. I hope Dobbs redshirts....

Peterman completed 1 of 1 passes (100%) and handed the ball off several times. No fumbles, no incompletes, zero interceptions.....but you claim he looked shaky.

What exactly was shaky? ... your imagination?

 

[Otis07]

Quinten Dormady

I hope you are right....Peterman cannot beat out Worley now what makes anyone think he will be better next season

 

[American Pig]

I hope you are right....Peterman cannot beat out Worley now what makes anyone think he will be better next season

Otis,

Peterman already beat Worley and Dobbs in terms of passing skills and is a better runner than Worley. Worley was chosen because of his game management experience.

Dormady looks alot like Peterman on film. Big guy with solid accuracy and zip. Both four star QB's...