If B Pearl is not fired at the end of season

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NYYVol said:
Compare the rosters. Couple that with timing and you have a job that people are not going to jump at. It's not rocket science.
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So how does this fit with your argument of next years basketball roster? At least the roster that most people here expect.
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NYYVol said:
Compare the rosters. Couple that with timing and you have a job that people are not going to jump at. It's not rocket science.
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umm we through a ton of money at him. And its the sec. He said no bc ut is a hard place to recruit. Notice how he left for florida. Its easier to recruit. Also money isnt everything bc he turned down alot!!!
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jp1 said:
So how does this fit with your argument of next years basketball roster? At least the roster that most people here expect.
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Basketball recruiting and football recruiting are two vastly different animals.
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NYYVol said:
Facilities and perks had nothing to do with the Dooley hiring. Timing sucked.
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I bet it did in dooleys case. Ut is a step up from where he was at. But for muschamp it wasnt. And muschamp is evidently an elite coach bc he was our first target and we threw the bank at him and he still said no. Twice!!!!
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jbeard82 said:
I bet it did in dooleys case. Ut is a step up from where he was at. But for muschamp it wasnt. And muschamp is evidently an elite coach bc he was our first target and we threw the bank at him and he still said no. Twice!!!!
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I'm forever grateful he said no.
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Neyland2nd2none said:
Are we setting ourselves up to get punished harder? Kinda like when USC hired cheater Lane, I think the NCAA took that as a slap in the face. Are we better off washing our hands clean of BP in the NCAA's eyes?
Also, with this J Tressel stuff blowing up now, do you guys think that situation will have any effect on BP's punishment? I may be wrong but it seems like OSU always gets off with a slap on the wrist. If the NCAA tries to "slap Tressel on the wrist", I would think BP's punishment just got a lot lighter. Surely the NCAA will have to compare the two cases going off what they know with OSU before UT's June 10-11 meetings. IMO, what JT has done is far, far worse than what BP did.
I'd love to hear what you guys think. Things are about to get ugly. The NCAA is coming off the Cam Newton bs, the OSU Sugar Bowl bs, B Pearl bs, now Oregon recruiting practices & this Tressel mess.
Get your popcorn ready...it's gonna be interesting to watch it all unfold
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The 2 game suspension against Akron and some other small school hardly seems much of a punishment. I was a Tressler fan till all this broke and think it has definitely tarnished the program. This coupled with he played some of these players in the bowl game. I don't know if this will have any bearing on Pearl. Clearly, Pearl did wrong and lied, it is hard to defend. I'm not sure what is a just punishment for BP. Will it be a 2 year suspension and loss of scholarships and post season ban for 2 years to boot? Basketball has always been the dirtiest of the big three in college athletics, far more than football. Does Pearl deserve to be fired? I really don't have a good answer. It would certainly set our program back and I don't look forward to that scenario.
 
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NYYVol said:
basketball programs can be resurrected with one solid recruiting class. One. Just one. Only one.
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I agree but the coach coming in would have to know that recruiting is goin to be tough for at least a couple of years right?
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NYYVol said:
basketball programs can be resurrected with one solid recruiting class. One. Just one. Only one.
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yeah only if you know how to cheat like cc and bring five 5 star recruits in every year. other wise it dosent happen with just one class.
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jp1 said:
I agree but the coach coming in would have to know that recruiting is goin to be tough for at least a couple of years right?
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Coaches have connections set in place already.
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jbeard82 said:
yeah only if you know how to cheat like cc and bring five 5 star recruits in every year. other wise it dosent happen with just one class.
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yes it does.
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NYYVol said:
yes it does.
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Ok so tell me who is this elite coach who is gonna leave a place hes already winning at to come to ut and that will be under probation and still recruit an awesome class and make us vol fans forget this ever happened? Please tell me bc im curious.
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NYYVol said:
Coaches have connections set in place already.
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Connections to aau coaches or connections to players? And if u say players are u not making a big assumption that they will follow?
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I get confused when people talk about these so called "dream jobs". Yes. If your coaching at North Carolina, Kansas, or Kentucky then you must be doing something right. But people don't realize it's these "dream job" locations that have the smallest room for error. I'd rather take a Tennessee / Vanderbilt job any day over any of those other rich tradition programs. When you compare UTs facilities with UNC or UK..its not that much different. Recruiting budgets are not that much different and were basically in the same location. Bruce raised the bar a little higher at UT then it had been. Even if he don't coach next year and our team is not as talented as it has been, I guarentee if we have a game scheduled at Chapel Hill or any other traditioned school, the gym would be packed just because of the name. As long as the penalties are not harsh, I don't think finding another decent coach would be hard for UT.
 
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BasketvolsFan said:
The major difference with Pearl and all the other examples is his lying to the NCAA. Tressel, as far as we know, did not lie. It would be best for UT and Pearl for him to gracefully step aside at the end of the season. No question, it would lessen the sanctions that are forthcoming from the NCAA. Pearl could land a job on ESPN for two or three years and then return to coaching somewhere. We could start moving forward with the basketball program and not waste two to three years of very bad recruiting and get the program to an Auburn level before we start moving forward again. Don't know that this will happen, but it would be best for all concerned. It will be very dangerous for the program to try to keep Pearl and hope that the sanctions don't include a two year ban. If that happens, we have no chance of hiring a decent coach in October.
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Yes he did. He got an email in April 2010 from an attorney telling him about his players and the tatoo parlor proprietor. Tressell recently claimed he didn't know anything about the players until November of 2010. The email record is the proof he lied about the timing of finding out about it

That being said, it would be in UT's best interest if Pearl and UT come to some sort of financial agreement and he resigns at season's end, whenever that may be
 
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jp1 said:
Connections to aau coaches or connections to players? And if u say players are u not making a big assumption that they will follow?
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Both. Outside of the bluebloods most decisions are made solely on the coach. A coach with solid connections getting paid what UT can pay while having the facilities to sell to players can do some solid work here.
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jbeard82 said:
Ok so tell me who is this elite coach who is gonna leave a place hes already winning at to come to ut and that will be under probation and still recruit an awesome class and make us vol fans forget this ever happened? Please tell me bc im curious.
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There's no reason to think that our program is going to be seriously hampered by NCAA sanctions if Bruce Pearl is not retained.
 
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NYYVol said:
Basketball recruiting and football recruiting are two vastly different animals.
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You are absolutely correct. One good recruiting class can turn around a basketball program. It takes several good classes to do the same in football.
 
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BasketvolsFan said:
You are absolutely correct. One good recruiting class can turn around a basketball program. It takes several good classes to do the same in football.
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Oh really? How many of those good recruiting classes do you think we will have under this mystery "elite" coach who decides to leave a good situation to come to a school under some type of ncaa penalty? Im still waiting for someone to answer that question.
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jbeard82 said:
Oh really? How many of those good recruiting classes do you think we will have under this mystery "elite" coach who decides to leave a good situation to come to a school under some type of ncaa penalty? Im still waiting for someone to answer that question.
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Who said we're going to have an AA penalty?
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