If Healthcare passes today....

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#327
foreignvol said:
When you take my money to pay for other peoples needs, you are taking away the fruits of my labor, making me no better than a serf.
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The government is taking "your money" to pay for roads, schools, police/fire, etc. And not it's health care. That's the cost to live in a society like the USA

If you don't want to pay to live in the USA, you are free to leave.
 
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#328
RobsPics said:
"The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."

See "others"...there's your health care. Obama said it during his campaign, and he won the election...meaning the majority of voters agree with him.
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So you get healthcare out of "other" because Obama said so.

How silly of me!!!
 
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#329
RobsPics said:
"The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."

See "others"...there's your health care. Obama said it during his campaign, and he won the election...meaning the majority of voters agree with him.
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This is a borderline infantile analysis.

A vote against Bush was hardly a vote the fiscal disaster that Obama has proven to be. Ignorance of that fact only paints you a fool.
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#330
#330
RobsPics said:
The government is taking "your money" to pay for roads, schools, police/fire, etc. And not it's health care. That's the cost to live in a society like the USA

If you don't want to pay to live in the USA, you are free to leave.
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This is really your support for a route to bankruptcy? Absurd.
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#331
#331
Brewerw said:
Ya because he and the legislature's approval ratings are through the roof. Good call.
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Of course it's a good call thanks to our Founding Fathers

The Founding Fathers constructed the electoral system for citizens to choose their representatives.

They did not give any power or deference to pop-culture "polls".
 
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RobsPics said:
The government is taking "your money" to pay for roads, schools, police/fire, etc. And not it's health care. That's the cost to live in a society like the USA

If you don't want to pay to live in the USA, you are free to leave.
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But I actually benefit from those things. I fail to see how paying for SOMEONE ELSE'S healthcare is any benefit to me.
 
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#335
RobsPics said:
"The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."

See "others"...there's your health care. Obama said it during his campaign, and he won the election...meaning the majority of voters agree with him.
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The 9th Amendment was ratified to protect us from the government infringing on our rights, not for the government to dictate what they consider to be a "right"
 
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#337
CountVolcula said:
So you get healthcare out of "other" because Obama said so.

How silly of me!!!
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Yup that's right.

The Constitution is a living document as evidence by the vague 9th Amendment.

That means "other rights" can mean anything the majority deems it to mean. In this case, the majority deems it to mean Health Care.

If the majority didn't want that, then the majority would not have voted for Obama. He clearly mentioned it on the campaign trail.
 
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#338
RobsPics said:
The government is taking "your money" to pay for roads, schools, police/fire, etc. And not it's health care. That's the cost to live in a society like the USA

If you don't want to pay to live in the USA, you are free to leave.
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They will take my money to pay for universal health care, if I let them.

I guess the underground economy will flourish in the next few years.
 
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#340
CountVolcula said:
The 9th Amendment was ratified to protect us from the government infringing on our rights, not for the government to dictate what they consider to be a "right"
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The government didn't dictate health care to be a right...the people did...and the people voiced their opinion by voting for someone who shares the same thoughts...Obama.
 
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#341
RobsPics said:
Yup that's right.

The Constitution is a living document as evidence by the vague 9th Amendment.

That means "other rights" can mean anything the majority deems it to mean. In this case, the majority deems it to mean Health Care.

If the majority didn't want that, then the majority would not have voted for Obama. He clearly mentioned it on the campaign trail.
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No bro. I know it will surprise you, but the interpretation of the 9th amendment is up to our courts, who exist to overrule to stupidity of our vote grabbers.

Please grab a 3rd grade civics book before you give any more statistical politics lessons.
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RobsPics said:
The government didn't dictate health care to be a right...the people did...and the people voiced their opinion by voting for someone who shares the same thoughts...Obama.
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So if enough people say they have a right to a free Ferrari, does that make it true?
 
#343
#343
foreignvol said:
They will take my money to pay for universal health care, if I let them.

I guess the underground economy will flourish in the next few years.
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Oh sure that goes without saying...there's tons of people who evade taxes and cheat on their tax returns.

I have no doubt that people will find a method to illegally avoid payment. Some of those people go as far as committing acts of terrorism on Federal buildings.

But I have trust that the FBI and other Federal law enforcement agencies will expose and apprehend such terrorists.
 
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#346
#346
RobsPics said:
Of course it's a good call thanks to our Founding Fathers

The Founding Fathers constructed the electoral system for citizens to choose their representatives.

They did not give any power or deference to pop-culture "polls".
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True, which is the main reason health reform is being rushed through. To get this massive POS through before half the senators lose their job.
 
#347
#347
RobsPics said:
Yup that's right.

The Constitution is a living document as evidence by the vague 9th Amendment.

That means "other rights" can mean anything the majority deems it to mean. In this case, the majority deems it to mean Health Care.

If the majority didn't want that, then the majority would not have voted for Obama. He clearly mentioned it on the campaign trail.
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He won because Bush was a disaster. Nothing more or less.
 
#348
#348
RobsPics said:
The government didn't dictate health care to be a right...the people did...and the people voiced their opinion by voting for someone who shares the same thoughts...Obama.
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When did the people do this? Did wr float an amendment?

Get over your wishful thinking about fantasyland majorities and mandates to our new socialist, the American people clearly don't want a government run solution here.
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#349
#349
BigPapaVol said:
No bro. I know it will surprise you, but the interpretation of the 9th amendment is up to our courts, who exist to overrule to stupidity of our vote grabbers.

Please grab a 3rd grade civics book before you give any more statistical politics lessons.
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Well a court hasn't ruled on this bill's Universal Health Care yet...so no need to get your panties in a bunch.

Until then, it's happy days for me and the majority of voters who voted for Obama :clapping::clapping::clapping::clapping:
 
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