If I See This At Game Start, I'm Good...

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Vol8188 said:
You'd spy Worley?
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Not generally but if I am worried about a 10 I wouldn't want them to gain to many yards on the ground if they are trying to spread me thin. Because most of the time it's 3 and long. It's better then man. With then new rules zone is the way to go and hope you get a good pass rush.
 
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Idk a lot about their defense, but if they have confidence in their secondary, I would load the box and make Worley beat me.

A lot of cover 3 and banjo, and forcing him to throw over us.
 
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Milehigh_Vol said:
Not generally but if I am worried about a 10 I wouldn't want them to gain to many yards on the ground if they are trying to spread me thin. Because most of the time it's 3 and long. It's better then man. With then new rules zone is the way to go and hope you get a good pass rush.
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I love zone. Everywhere I've been I've ran a route reading quarters scheme. And I've increased interceptions over the previous staff each time.

The reason is simple. In zone your db is looking at the (especially on a fade route). In man your db doesn't always see the ball because he's looking at the man.
 
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Vol8188 said:
I love zone. Everywhere I've been I've ran a route reading quarters scheme. And I've increased interceptions over the previous staff each time.

The reason is simple. In zone your db is looking at the (especially on a fade route). In man your db doesn't always see the ball because he's looking at the man.
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Yeah I do too. Cover 2 and 3 was my favorite. I used a 3-3 stack. Just so much fun.
 
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Glad to see some actual football conversation....

So while we're having an actual football conversation...why doesn't someone explain to me the difference in a Zone read and Read option. I've always thought of them as an interchangeable term, but I've seen people get crucified for it on here....Yet never an explanation.
 
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Milehigh_Vol said:
Been along time since I heard banjo. Haven't coached in awhile. Lol
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If you really start to break things down, quarters is extremely close to 0 banjo. And cover 3 is really close to cover 1 banjo.

Actually on 3rd and long we run our quarters scheme except we bring an extra safety into the game and put him in the middle of the field. The reason I started doing that was because against 4 verticals a quarters scheme is 1 on 1. So the safety in the middle improves my odds by making it 5 on 4.
 
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BennisDrewer said:
Glad to see some actual football conversation (although it seems a few of you just play a little too much Madden...)

So while we're having an actual football conversation...why doesn't someone explain to me the difference in a Zone read and Read option. I've always thought of them as an interchangeable term, but I've seen people get crucified for it on here....Yet never an explanation.
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Read option can be a lot of different plays. Do you remeber when Urban used to use a wr as a pitch man off his zone read? That would be a read option play. Zone read is a read option play.

Trap read, power read. any run play where you give the qb an option to pull is a read option play. Zone read is just more specific.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Read option can be a lot of different plays. Do you remeber when Urban used to use a wr as a pitch man off his zone read? That would be a read option play. Zone read is a read option play.

Trap read, power read. any run play where you give the qb an option to pull is a read option play. Zone read is just more specific.
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You beat me to it. That's a good explanation.
 
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I remember when we went to zone blocking at the high school I was at. That was a mess for awhile.. Lol
 
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Vol8188 said:
Read option can be a lot of different plays. Do you remeber when Urban used to use a wr as a pitch man off his zone read? That would be a read option play. Zone read is a read option play.

Trap read, power read. any run play where you give the qb an option to pull is a read option play. Zone read is just more specific.
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Makes sense, I appreciate the explanation...

Confirms my suspicion that people on here act like they know a lot more than they really do...To hear a few on here tell it a zone read and read option are like comparing a single wing and power I
 
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VFL1953 said:
A 10 grouping means that Bo Derek is playing the slot.....
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I have learned more about football from watching two coaches rip a poser to shreds in this thread than I ever have watching games, nicely done gents...

V8 :bow2:
 
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Caleb59seal said:
Thank The Lord an actual football conversation... I personally wanna see some small personnel to show we are attacking early and then break them with a two tightend set and Hurd and lane punishing them and making them quit... I wanna break there will.
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This is probably the most educational thread I've ever read on VN.
 
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I think we come out in the old Oklahoma wishbone set to screw with their minds, then throw to the end zone for a TD on the first play ! Their ... Problem solved
 
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My gut is telling me we will beat them by a larger margin than most people think. I think coach Jones has this team dialed in. Just watching practice highlights the practices seem to have a game day intensity about them. In their interviews the guys appear to be focused, prepared, and confidence. This team has a little swagger about it.

This team is going to extremely intense and focused on game day. They are ready to play. I expect them to come out attacking USU in every phase of the game.

I can remember commenting on here years ago about how the team seems to be going thru the motions in practice, and going half speed. It seemed like a waste of time to me. I also got flamed for that thread. But honestly the difference in this teams practice footage is night and day over even last years team.
 
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Vol8188 said:
I've coached the game for nearly a decade and am currently writing a book on the topic of match zone coverage, but continue making a fool of yourself.
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Yet he is never at school teaching anything as a coach and he is always on here explaining to everyone that he is a coach instead of doing anything else. Told us that school had not started yet in NC so that is why he was posting all day that day. However, he did have in school service that day and actual school started on Tuesday when he said it was not till Monday.

He also felt that in the entire season we would only need 3-4 DT's.
 
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