If I was Danny White...

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Mator said:
I'd tell the NCAA to shove their scholarship restrictions and everything else up their hypocritical arse. I'd sign the 85 and keep moving. Cheat coach is gone, players involved gone and everybody gets paid now anyway. If I'm wrong and they were self-imposed, I'd un-self-impose. Pisses me the f off they punish those left standing and not involved.
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The school has a signed agreement that prevents them from doing anything but accepting penalties. Every school has those agreements as long as an NCAA member institution. In fact they voted for the agreement.
 
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The only thing sadder than the Pruitt fiasco are the people in the university that hired him, extended his contract and generally failed to supervise a mediocre hire that eventually took the program to a committee on infractions hearing and 18 level 1 improper benefit infractions. The involved booster was never named, after payment of the $8 million fine directly to the NCAA and scholarship limitations, you'd like to think it is all behind the program now,
 
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BanditVol said:
This. They don't even really need a schollie. I don't think the NCAA could do anything about this.
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So, you think that your NIL collective would pay above the market rate for a player. (NIL money + scholarship money) You guys act like these players just because they can out of the goodness of their heart are going to pay their own way.
 
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The 85 is meaningless. You can have an NIL equivalent of a scholarship for any player. The loss of official visits hurts more.
 
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Really? That’s what you’d do if you were the athletic director at UT?

…a real pro.
 
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What is our scholarship restrictions at and when is it over? We will just back fill with transfers once it's over. It's not that big of an issue.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
I am betting he was paid by a source outside the university.
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He was not. Not a penny.

He had no legal standing to sue for his buyout. His contract clearly stated that he could be fired for cause without a buyout if he committed Level 1 violations as head coach. It was proven at the NCAA hearing that he did that. He admitted to things that fit the for-cause standard.

He was angling to get a settlement from UT and he was never offered one.
 
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ru4real-really? said:
About Pruitts buy out. What came of it? Besides going silent. Anybody know what really happened?
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Lawyers. Contracts. The large print giveth and the small print taketh away. Pruitt signed on the dotted line that he'd not get a buyout if NCAA rules weren't abided by. Of course he came from a culture where someone else laundered and cleaned up after themselves. Those people stayed in Tuscaloosa, so he couldn't pull it off, so UT dodged a big buyout. Correct me if I'm wrong.
 
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Doug Matthews said on Big Orange Sunday a few weeks ago that the limitations were meaningless now that A walkon cat get NIL money. Probably the only limitation now is how many can suit up on game day.
 
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DeerPark12 said:
He was not. Not a penny.

He had no legal standing to sue for his buyout. His contract clearly stated that he could be fired for cause without a buyout if he committed Level 1 violations as head coach. It was proven at the NCAA hearing that he did that. He admitted to things that fit the for-cause standard.

He was angling to get a settlement from UT and he was never offered one.
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You have absolutely no idea of what you say is true. The lawsuit, in my opinion, was never about prevailing in court but was a thinly veiled threat to expose Tennessee’s further culpability.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
You have absolutely no idea of what you say is true. The lawsuit, in my opinion, was never about prevailing in court but was a thinly veiled threat to expose Tennessee’s further culpability.
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I think this is right on and I also think that it went too quiet! He probably did get some severance money to pay his lawyers and a little bit for himself! Someday we'll know--not that it's really any of our business what our deep pocket boosters do with their money!
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
You have absolutely no idea of what you say is true. The lawsuit, in my opinion, was never about prevailing in court but was a thinly veiled threat to expose Tennessee’s further culpability.
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I am as confident of it as anything I’ve ever posted on this board. I write, negotiate and litigate employment contracts for a living. I am extremely familiar with the circumstances around his threats and the representation he wanted to use.

I also am familiar with quite a few people in the state of Alabama that he is connected to, and I feel very confident that he did not receive some kind of under the table payment to go away. I won’t claim to know every donor that could write checks that large, but none of the ones I am familiar with would have done that in the first place.
 
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GUNTERSVOL said:
NO, it is not the truth. What they did WAS and IS illegal to this day. Play with the books and funnel money to the collective and life will not be good. Same for direct pay fro school funds.
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Wasn't speaking to the legalities of the infractions.

Was speaking to the timing of UT getting caught doing it in the middle of the transition to the NIL landscape.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
So, you think that your NIL collective would pay above the market rate for a player. (NIL money + scholarship money) You guys act like these players just because they can out of the goodness of their heart are going to pay their own way.
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So getting money from an NIL is "paying your own way"? Are you serious? 😆
 
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DeerPark12 said:
I am as confident of it as anything I’ve ever posted on this board. I write, negotiate and litigate employment contracts for a living. I am extremely familiar with the circumstances around his threats and the representation he wanted to use.

I also am familiar with quite a few people in the state of Alabama that he is connected to, and I feel very confident that he did not receive some kind of under the table payment to go away. I won’t claim to know every donor that could write checks that large, but none of the ones I am familiar with would have done that in the first place.
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I greatly appreciate your input here. Thanks.

Given your work and perhaps also your contacts, do you think the fact Martinez hasn't been publicly extended and/or hasn't gotten a longer term contract like the other assistants is significant?

In short, do you think Martinez is on any kind of "hot seat" or "short leash" based upon your knowledge of employment contracts? Like most here, I'm not familiar with the nuances, if any, of him being the only unextended coach, AFAIK, on Heupel's staff.

As always, thanks for your insight.
 
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