If KY Hoops Didn't Have Enough Troubles Already..

#26
#26
ukvols said:
If Tubby were still the coach, Morris would still be at UK. Patterson may or may not have gone to UK, but it's quite possible that Jai Lucas would have gone to UK. The injuries are not the coach's fault, but a struggle to make the NIT is still happening under his watch, not Tubby's. Had they not lost to G-Webb and UAB, they'd be a home win over a struggling UofL team away from being well-positioned to make the Big Dance.
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I don´t think that Morris would be here if Tubby had stayed. He had eyes on the NBA from day one. Jai Lucas, I´m not sure. It was cloak-and-dagger stuff waiting to see what the Florida Seniors all did, as well as many other factors. But after seeing what Billy G. has done in other places with other places, I doubt that Lucas didn´t come to UK because of Billy.

BruceAlmighty19 said:
I just don't buy this. Bruce came in his first year and had to use a 6'4" power forward, the rest were players left over from a 14 win season, yet he still got the job done. I respect Billy G and know eventually he'll have Kentucky back on top, but Kentucky fans need to stop blaming THESE loses on their FORMER coach.
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Read my post again. I said that the losses were due to a variety of reasons, ranging from Tubby´s poor recruiting and development of players, to injuries, to the struggles of a new coach trying to adjust to his players and get his system in. It´s a combination of things. Time will only straighten it out.

Could Tubby have won a few more games with the current roster? Probably. He´s a superior tactician. Billy just needs time to get his players, his system, etc. I´ve said this numerous times, I´ll say it until those things happen. But, I do question some of his non-adjustments in-game.

Comparing Bruce to Billy is apples to oranges (no pun intended). Heck, comparing Bruce to ANYTHING defies the imagination.
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#27
#27
Let's laugh now because in 2 or 3 years Billy will be the one laughing when he gets his players in there.
 
#34
#34
It's not like Kentucky hasn't played anyone...they've played some pretty tough teams away from home...they'll be battle tested by the time the SEC rolls around...

Look at Florida, they're 9-1 but they haven't beat anyone of significance. Point is that Kentucky will be ready for SEC play while Florida probably won't be. This is why records can be deceiving early on in the season.
 
#35
#35
If Kentucky is smart, they will quit complaining and let em' do his job. They need to give that man a chance and see what happens after year 3, hell maybe year 2. Billy will win at Kentucky, if those narrowminded, arrogant, and self rightous folks stay out of his way. I've read their boards, Ive seen their comments, and it disgusts me. If these people are as smart as they think they are, take the clipboard from him. Fat freaking chance. The best advice I can give them is, watch how you come down on him. He'll get to recruit and get HIS guys in there. He'll have them accostumed to his system/style/pace, and given HIS choice of personell, they we be happy come March.



sorry about the rant.
 
#36
#36
I honestly think you guys really short Bradley and Crawford - but especially Bradford since I've seen Crawford really make some bonehead plays.

These guys are streaky - yes... but when they're on you can expect 20+ from each of em. They remind me of Jajuan Smith - who isn't the best consistently.. but watch out when he's on fire... Crawford has more tendency to turn it over or take retarded shots like Jajuan in my opinion though.

Even the last time UT played UK I think Crawford was out of his mind hitting trey after trey and he was the only reason Kentucky was within 20.. I still don't but that these guys aren't quality SEC guards. Best in the conference? No - but certainly could be huge contributers on other teams.
 
#38
#38
Sudeepvol said:
It's not like Kentucky hasn't played anyone...they've played some pretty tough teams away from home...they'll be battle tested by the time the SEC rolls around...

Look at Florida, they're 9-1 but they haven't beat anyone of significance. Point is that Kentucky will be ready for SEC play while Florida probably won't be. This is why records can be deceiving early on in the season.
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I usually frown on easy OOC schedules...but not this yr for UF...they need these cupcakes early to get some experience and confidence...even as bad as UK has looked..they'll prolly beat UF at home...but get them this yr..UF will be back.
 
#39
#39
NCGatorBait said:
I usually frown on easy OOC schedules...but not this yr for UF...they need these cupcakes early to get some experience and confidence...even as bad as UK has looked..they'll prolly beat UF at home...but get them this yr..UF will be back.
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In non-biased words.

"I usually frown on easy OOC schedules.. but not this year because this Florida team SUCKS. They will need to keep crushing these cupcakes and have about 11-12 easy wins going into to conference play.. so we can then sneek into the tourney as a bubble team while giving some other more deserving team the shaft - followed by a first blowout to a #8 seed that actually deserves to be in the tournament."
 
#40
#40
Brian McCat said:
I don´t think that Morris would be here if Tubby had stayed. He had eyes on the NBA from day one. Jai Lucas, I´m not sure. It was cloak-and-dagger stuff waiting to see what the Florida Seniors all did, as well as many other factors. But after seeing what Billy G. has done in other places with other places, I doubt that Lucas didn´t come to UK because of Billy.
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Morris promised Tubby that he would stay through his senior season in return for the work Tubby did in regaining his eligibility. Lucas hinted in his UF announcement that he didn't like Billy G. He said Tubby leaving didn't by itself turn him off and then said something to the effect of, "Coach Smith leaving hurt me, but then I got to know Coach Gillispie. I got to know him real well." That doesn't for sure mean he would have come otherwise, but that's what he said. I saw that on a Houston local newschannel's website.
 
#41
#41
I'm sure Gillispie is ready to rebuild now that the cowards have wondered off and the real men are ready to regain their top status.
 
#42
#42
TXVOL07 said:
If Kentucky is smart, they will quit complaining and let em' do his job. They need to give that man a chance and see what happens after year 3, hell maybe year 2. Billy will win at Kentucky, if those narrowminded, arrogant, and self rightous folks stay out of his way. I've read their boards, Ive seen their comments, and it disgusts me. If these people are as smart as they think they are, take the clipboard from him. Fat freaking chance. The best advice I can give them is, watch how you come down on him. He'll get to recruit and get HIS guys in there. He'll have them accostumed to his system/style/pace, and given HIS choice of personell, they we be happy come March.



sorry about the rant.
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What exactly has Gillispie done to prove he will have them happy during tournament time (of any year)?
 
#43
#43
Sudeepvol said:
It's not like Kentucky hasn't played anyone...they've played some pretty tough teams away from home...they'll be battle tested by the time the SEC rolls around...

Look at Florida, they're 9-1 but they haven't beat anyone of significance. Point is that Kentucky will be ready for SEC play while Florida probably won't be. This is why records can be deceiving early on in the season.
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UAB, Gardner-Webb, Houston are real world beaters.
 
#44
#44
And to think they almost hired Pelphrey. They would have been in for single digits win total with him at the helm.
 
#45
#45
ukvols said:
Morris promised Tubby that he would stay through his senior season in return for the work Tubby did in regaining his eligibility.
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Is that why he signed with the Knicks before Tubby announced he was leaving?
 
#48
#48
TennesseeFan07 said:
I was saying that if Billy G is struggling at UK then John Pelphrey wouldn't do crap compared to how he's fared at Arkansas thus far.
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different coaches, different styles of play....Not to Mention Pelphrey's team has lost a total of two games thusfar.... Gillispie's squad has 5 losses.

They've both played the exact same type of teams. Difference is Providence and OU are more respectable than Gardner-Webb and UAB.
 
#50
#50
TennesseeFan07 said:
Difference is that Billy G already has signature wins while at A&M. What does John have?
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Gillispie's 'signature wins' have nothing to do with what he's doing now.

Your argument is inherently flawed.


Here's what it comes down to:

Arkansas is taking care of business (for the most part, two hiccups)

Kentucky is playing in a putrid fashion and is losing to the likes of UAB, Houston, and Gardner-Webb (AT HOME).
 
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