If Peyton Manning was QB this year?

#26
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VFLCodyGBO said:
He lost the heisman, broke some school and conference records, and won an SEC title, that's pretty average. Peyton is a vol great no doubt and will go down as one of the best if not THE best in NFL history but he didn't make quite the splash in college as he has in the NFL.
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Un-Freaking-Believable! :banghead2:

Yeah I had a fairly average college career too, don't remember getting a street named after me though!


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it appears VFLCodyGBO was 4yo when Manning graduated so I'll cut him some slack. Of course he should probably do himself a favor and just duck out of this thread for fear it will be used against him in a future competency hearing
 
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SaintLouisVol said:
I agree.

An average college quarterback is almost always a four year starter in the top football conference in college. Nearly all of them are projected as the No. 1 overall draft pick after their junior year only to return for their senior year despite that fact and STILL get drafted number one in the next draft. That's average.

The SEC player of the year is nearly always average.

Back in the day, just about any quarterback finished Top 10 in the Heisman voting THREE TIMES!! And was the front runner for a whole season only to hosed by a media backlash. That's average for sure.

In fact, isn't the Davey O'Brien Award given to most average quarterback in college football? Must be, 'cause Peyton won it.

Maybe you weren't around then, very young or perhaps you have a short memory. Otherwise I can't begin to explain how you would make such a statement.
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I'm with you, Manning was and is the true definition of VFL. Also, he did it the right way on and off the field.
 
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VFLCodyGBO said:
The experienced Peyton of today or the Peyton that had a fairly average collegiate career of the past? I feel like both would have struggled due to our WR issues.
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39-6 as a starter, 11,000+ yds, 89 tds, SEC title, played in the National Champ game as a senior, heisman trophy finalist and maxwell award winner as a senior..... fairly average???
 
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utvolpj said:
it appears VFLCodyGBO was 4yo when Manning graduated so I'll cut him some slack. Of course he should probably do himself a favor and just duck out of this thread for fear it will be used against him in a future competency hearing
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Is VFLCODYGBO a new screen name for the infamous CODYG10?

The OP of one of the greatest VN threads ever, the Mitch Mustang thread
 
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utvolpj said:
it appears VFLCodyGBO was 4yo when Manning graduated so I'll cut him some slack. Of course he should probably do himself a favor and just duck out of this thread for fear it will be used against him in a future competency hearing
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He's trolling. Nobody is that stupid.
 
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GAVol said:
I can see calling him overrated . . . But average? Even if you think he is overrated, you have to concede he was a top 20 college QB of all time instead of a top 5 QB.
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Which side are you arguing for? That he was not average as the poster said which means you're pro Peyton, or that he was overrated and not a Top 5 QB but instead a top 20 QB which is kinda the opposite.
 
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VFLCodyGBO said:
He lost the heisman, broke some school and conference records, and won an SEC title, that's pretty average. Peyton is a vol great no doubt and will go down as one of the best if not THE best in NFL history but he didn't make quite the splash in college as he has in the NFL.
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Stop. So getting the 2nd most votes for being the best college football player in the country is average and not making a splash?

Holding virtually every SEC passing record by the time he graduated UT isn't making a splash?

Winning 39 games and losing 5 in the SEC isn't making a splash?

Winning an SEC title isn't making a splash?

Do you have any idea how ridiculous your posts in this thread are? You should probably just fade away from this thread now ... you have 0 credibility.
 
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I don't believe that this is the resume of an "average college quarterback":

College awards

1994 SEC Freshman of the Year
1995 First-team All-SEC
1995 SEC Offensive Player of the Week (vs. Arkansas)
1995 NCAA Offensive Player of the Week (vs. Arkansas)
1996 Second-Team All-SEC
1996 Third-Team All-American
1996 SEC Offensive Player of the Week (vs. South Carolina)
1996 SEC Offensive Player of the Week (vs. Georgia)
1997 Davey O'Brien Award
1997 Johnny Unitas Award
1997 NCAA QB of the Year
1997 Maxwell Award
1997 James E. Sullivan Award
1997 Today's Top VIII Award
1997 SEC Championship MVP
1997 Citrus Bowl MVP
1997 Consensus All-American
1997 SEC Player of the Year
1997 First-team All-SEC
1997 SEC Player of the Week (vs. Southern Miss)
1998 Best College Player ESPY Award


College records

Tennessee Volunteers records

Most passing attempts (career): 1,381
Most passing attempts (season): 477 (1997)
Most passing attempts (game): 65 (09/21/96 vs. Florida)
Most completions (career): 863
Most completions (game): 37 (09/21/96 vs. Florida)
Most consecutive completions (game): 12 (11/22/97 vs. Kentucky)
Highest completion percentage (career): 62.49%
Highest completion percentage (season): 64.2% (1995)
Lowest interception percentage (career): 2.39%
Lowest interception percentage (season): 1.05% (1995)
Most consecutive passes without an interception (season): 132
Most passing yards (season): 3,819 (1997)
Most passing yards (career): 11,201
Most passing yards (game): 508 (11/22/97 vs. Kentucky)
Most offensive yards (career): 11,020
Most 500+ passing yard games (career): 1
Most 400+ passing yard games (career): 3
Most 300+ passing yard games (career): 18
Most 300+ passing yard games (season): 9 (1997)
Most consecutive 300+ passing yard games: 7
Most 200+ passing yard games (career): 30
Most wins as starting quarterback (career): 39
Most touchdown passes (career): 89
Most touchdown passes (game): 5 (08/30/97 vs. Texas Tech, 11/22/97 vs. Kentucky)
Most touchdowns (career): 101
Most offensive plays (career): 1,534
Most offensive plays (season): 538 (1997)
Most offensive plays (game): 70 (09/21/96 vs. Florida)


SEC records

Lowest interception percentage (season): 1.05% (1995)
Highest completion percentage (career): 62.49%
Lowest interception percentage (career): 2.39%
Most 300+ passing yard games (career): 18 (Peyton Manning - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)
 
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Volosaurus rex said:
I don't believe that this is the resume of an "average college quarterback":

College awards

1994 SEC Freshman of the Year
1995 First-team All-SEC
1995 SEC Offensive Player of the Week (vs. Arkansas)
1995 NCAA Offensive Player of the Week (vs. Arkansas)
1996 Second-Team All-SEC
1996 Third-Team All-American
1996 SEC Offensive Player of the Week (vs. South Carolina)
1996 SEC Offensive Player of the Week (vs. Georgia)
1997 Davey O'Brien Award
1997 Johnny Unitas Award
1997 NCAA QB of the Year
1997 Maxwell Award
1997 James E. Sullivan Award
1997 Today's Top VIII Award
1997 SEC Championship MVP
1997 Citrus Bowl MVP
1997 Consensus All-American
1997 SEC Player of the Year
1997 First-team All-SEC
1997 SEC Player of the Week (vs. Southern Miss)
1998 Best College Player ESPY Award


College records

Tennessee Volunteers records

Most passing attempts (career): 1,381
Most passing attempts (season): 477 (1997)
Most passing attempts (game): 65 (09/21/96 vs. Florida)
Most completions (career): 863
Most completions (game): 37 (09/21/96 vs. Florida)
Most consecutive completions (game): 12 (11/22/97 vs. Kentucky)
Highest completion percentage (career): 62.49%
Highest completion percentage (season): 64.2% (1995)
Lowest interception percentage (career): 2.39%
Lowest interception percentage (season): 1.05% (1995)
Most consecutive passes without an interception (season): 132
Most passing yards (season): 3,819 (1997)
Most passing yards (career): 11,201
Most passing yards (game): 508 (11/22/97 vs. Kentucky)
Most offensive yards (career): 11,020
Most 500+ passing yard games (career): 1
Most 400+ passing yard games (career): 3
Most 300+ passing yard games (career): 18
Most 300+ passing yard games (season): 9 (1997)
Most consecutive 300+ passing yard games: 7
Most 200+ passing yard games (career): 30
Most wins as starting quarterback (career): 39
Most touchdown passes (career): 89
Most touchdown passes (game): 5 (08/30/97 vs. Texas Tech, 11/22/97 vs. Kentucky)
Most touchdowns (career): 101
Most offensive plays (career): 1,534
Most offensive plays (season): 538 (1997)
Most offensive plays (game): 70 (09/21/96 vs. Florida)


SEC records

Lowest interception percentage (season): 1.05% (1995)
Highest completion percentage (career): 62.49%
Lowest interception percentage (career): 2.39%
Most 300+ passing yard games (career): 18
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correct me if i am wrong.wasn't peyton the first maxwell award winner that failed to win the heisman trophy.
 
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What about Tony Robinson in 85 anybody remember, last time I saw him he was doing a line running down the sideline ON CRUTCHES in the 86 Sugar Bowl what a waste of talent.
 
#44
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SaintLouisVol said:
I agree.

An average college quarterback is almost always a four year starter in the top football conference in college. Nearly all of them are projected as the No. 1 overall draft pick after their junior year only to return for their senior year despite that fact and STILL get drafted number one in the next draft. That's average.

The SEC player of the year is nearly always average.

Back in the day, just about any quarterback finished Top 10 in the Heisman voting THREE TIMES!! And was the front runner for a whole season only to be hosed by a media backlash. That's average for sure.

In fact, isn't the Davey O'Brien Award given to most average quarterback in college football? Must be, because Peyton won it.

If you honestly think he "didn't make quite the splash in college" then you were either not yet born or just not paying attention. Peyton Manning was absolutely one of the hottest names in college football at the time. He brought more national attention to the UT program than any player had in a generation if ever.
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And to top it off, the publicity associated with Peyton Manning as Tennessee's quarterback contributed significantly to several bumper crops, i.e. highly rated recruiting classes, that culminated the year after Peyton's graduation in a national championship.
 
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VFLCodyGBO said:
He lost the heisman, broke some school and conference records, and won an SEC title, that's pretty average. Peyton is a vol great no doubt and will go down as one of the best if not THE best in NFL history but he didn't make quite the splash in college as he has in the NFL.
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I guess average is all relative. For instance, on an intelligence level this post is well below average. On an entertainment level, this post is way above average.
 
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VFLCodyGBO said:
The experienced Peyton of today or the Peyton that had a fairly average collegiate career of the past? I feel like both would have struggled due to our WR issues.
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Players with fairly average collegiate careers don't end up the first overall draft pick in the NFL.
 
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I really wish we could get back to that level of mediocrity from our QB's.
 
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