If Peyton Manning was QB this year?

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Anyone, besides myself, ever consider we won the national championship the year after Peyton left? I'm not hating on the man at all. Just something to ponder.
 
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Thrasher865 said:
I think we would have beaten UF, too.

Peyton Manning doesn't play great defense, though, and he can't catch his own passes.
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However, if Payton was a freshman, starting his first game, and had freshmen receivers and average running backs( this years team on offense) both UGa ad UF games would still have been very close. Our defense has been pretty pores in most of the big games this year. Our key to winning Saturday is for our defense to like it player in the first 5 games.
 
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We still would have struggled with dropped passes, and Peyton is way ahead of offense in terms of our offense being able to execute and actually catch the ball.
 
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Doyle Hargraves said:
Anyone, besides myself, ever consider we won the national championship the year after Peyton left? I'm not hating on the man at all. Just something to ponder.
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Well, let's see, for starters the '98 team only gave up 14.5 ppg. The bigger issue is that, in spite of only managing 235yds and 7 1st downs of offense (a whole 64yds passing) the D managed to hold FL to only 17pts. (Manning et al managed 353yds passing and 20 1st downs the year prior)

So...no, there's really not THAT much to ponder.
 
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With Peyton we would be at 9-1 or 8-2 (loses by Bama and maybe Oregon).
Of course the assumption is that coaches would get out of the way and let Peyton call the offensive plays.
 
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hndog609 said:
Well, let's see, for starters the '98 team only gave up 14.5 ppg. The bigger issue is that, in spite of only managing 235yds and 7 1st downs of offense (a whole 64yds passing) the D managed to hold FL to only 17pts. (Manning et al managed 353yds passing and 20 1st downs the year prior)

So...no, there's really not THAT much to ponder.
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Maybe not much to ponder, but a fact nonetheless.
 
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Doyle Hargraves said:
Anyone, besides myself, ever consider we won the national championship the year after Peyton left? I'm not hating on the man at all. Just something to ponder.
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The 98 team played more as a complete team, and despite how some prop up Tee Martin, there really wasn't "superstar" on the team like Manning.

Seemed to me Manning's junior and senior years, the team was always waiting for Manning to win the game for them. The 98 team didn't have that.
 
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VFLCodyGBO said:
He lost the heisman, broke some school and conference records, and won an SEC title, that's pretty average. Peyton is a vol great no doubt and will go down as one of the best if not THE best in NFL history but he didn't make quite the splash in college as he has in the NFL.
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It amazes me how some brains work. Really.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
The 98 team played more as a complete team, and despite how some prop up Tee Martin, there really wasn't "superstar" on the team like Manning.

Seemed to me Manning's junior and senior years, the team was always waiting for Manning to win the game for them. The 98 team didn't have that.
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This is exactly the way I always thought about it. I'm not knocking Peyton, but the championship team seemed to pull together more when he left. They knew that to get it done, they had to all step up and do it themselves.
 
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Doyle Hargraves said:
This is exactly the way I always thought about it. I'm not knocking Peyton, but the championship team seemed to pull together more when he left. They knew that to get it done, they had to all step up and do it themselves.
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Couldn't agree more. If UT's D had held Florida to 17 points in ANY of the three games Manning played against them, UT wins that game.
 
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GAMECOCK said:
If Peyton was the QB this year with the same system and players, would the season have been any different? If so, what kind of impact would it have made? A telling thought I think.
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Here are Manning's numbers from his freshman year for reference:

24-21 loss to Mississippi State (8-4): 14/23 256 2 TD 1 INT
10-9 win over Washington State (8-4, #17): 7/14 79 0 TD 0 INT
38-21 win over Arkansas (4-7): 12/18 157 1 TD 0 INT
17-13 loss to Alabama (12-1, #10): 10/18 138 0 TD 2 INT
31-22 win over South Carolina (7-5): 18/23 189 3 TD 0 INT
24-13 win over Memphis (6-5): 5/12 32 0 TD 1 INT, missed 2nd half with injury
52-0 win over Kentucky (1-10): 10/15 122 2 TD 0 INT
65-0 win over Vanderbilt (5-6): 10/16 141 2 TD 1 INT
45-23 win over Virginia Tech (8-4): 12/19 189 1 TD 0 INT

We had two solid senior running backs in Little Man Stewart (first round draft pick) and Aaron Hayden (fourth round) who carried much of the offensive workload. I'm not sure if Manning played in the first three games against UCLA, Georgia, and Florida.

I do remember letters-to-the-editor to the News-Sentinel late in the season complaining about Manning, and bemoaning that Branndon Stewart hadn't been given a fair shot. While there were subtle signs of greatness in 1994, needless to say, Manning's breakout year didn't come until the 1995 season, when he was a sophomore.
 
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governmentmule said:
lose to Fla and wait for Tee ?
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The Tee whose career passing against FL was 23 of 59 (39%) for 256yds? The one that was 7 of 20 for 64yds in the one win of those two games?

I loved me some Tee but man is the "Tee Martin beat FL" mantra overplayed. A certain MLB was twice as important in that win as the QB.
 
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volatil said:
You can play the what ifs all you want.....

What if Nu'Keese never bought a BB gun?

What if Mike Hamilton had never been born?

What if Digital Underground had more than one hit.
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If a frog had wings it wouldn't bump it's ass every time it hops.
 
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GAMECOCK said:
If Peyton was the QB this year with the same system and players, would the season have been any different? If so, what kind of impact would it have made? A telling thought I think.
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Hopefully the coaches wouldn't be stupid enough to run this system with a PM as QB.
 
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hndog609 said:
The Tee whose career passing against FL was 23 of 59 (39%) for 256yds? The one that was 7 of 20 for 64yds in the one win of those two games?

I loved me some Tee but man is the "Tee Martin beat FL" mantra overplayed. A certain MLB was twice as important in that win as the QB.
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well all that is true,but Tee kicked all of there asses, Payton didn't ,who was the MLB ?
 
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hndog609 said:
The Tee whose career passing against FL was 23 of 59 (39%) for 256yds? The one that was 7 of 20 for 64yds in the one win of those two games?

I loved me some Tee but man is the "Tee Martin beat FL" mantra overplayed. A certain MLB was twice as important in that win as the QB.
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True. I believe he was something like 9 of 25 against Syracuse too.
 
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