If you can't beat 'em ....

#51
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lawgator1 said:
All news stories and analysis I have heard, including on FOX, are that that eelction was collective thumbing of the nose at Washington, D.C. Electorate mad at Washington, Wall Street, and anybody seen as part of routine management of those two has tough rode to hoe.
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But neither candidate was an establishment candidate. The D certainly wasn't of Washington, pro-Wall street, etc.

If it were just what you listed then the D should have won. There was a policy difference between the two candidates. It was more than "throw the bums out". Neither was one of the bums but one had policy positions more in touch with the majority in a traditionally blue state. Ignore that at your own peril.

"rode" to hoe? that's a new one on me.
 
#52
#52
volinbham said:
But neither candidate was an establishment candidate. The D certainly wasn't of Washington, pro-Wall street, etc.

If it were just what you listed then the D should have won. There was a policy difference between the two candidates. It was more than "throw the bums out". Neither was one of the bums but one had policy positions more in touch with the majority in a traditionally blue state. Ignore that at your own peril.

"rode" to hoe? that's a new one on me.
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If the GOP wants to think that the election in Massachussettes was about rejecting Democrats, as opposed to simply rejecting institutional candidates in general, they do so at their own peril.

The frustration is much more anti-regular politics than it is anti-Obama or anti-Dem. One need only look at current poll numbers to appreciate that obstructionist say no to every proposal politics is going to blow up in their collective faces if they don't work on some common ground.

Someone here repeated "A pox on both their houses." That's the sentiment right now and the sentiment that explains Massachussettes.
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#54
#54
lawgator1 said:
If the GOP wants to think that the election in Massachussettes was about rejecting Democrats, as opposed to simply rejecting institutional candidates in general, they do so at their own peril.

The frustration is much more anti-regular politics than it is anti-Obama or anti-Dem. One need only look at current poll numbers to appreciate that obstructionist say no to every proposal politics is going to blow up in their collective faces if they don't work on some common ground.

Someone here repeated "A pox on both their houses." That's the sentiment right now and the sentiment that explains Massachussettes.
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That may be true to a certain extent, but do you honestly not believe that the debate over UHC had something to do with it?
 
#55
#55
None, people want gov't to run their health care. Democrats simply didn't explain it well enough for the plebes to understand.
 
#56
#56
lawgator1 said:
Moose Xing.
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You make it sound like I'm enamored with Palin. On the contrary, I kinda wish she would drive her car into a certain Massachusetts body of water and be done with it.

I was simply pointing out that Obama becoming president shows that qualifications aren't a prereq for becoming the most powerful man in the world.
 
#57
#57
lawgator1 said:
If the GOP wants to think that the election in Massachussettes was about rejecting Democrats, as opposed to simply rejecting institutional candidates in general, they do so at their own peril.

The frustration is much more anti-regular politics than it is anti-Obama or anti-Dem.
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I did not say it was about rejecting Dems. I did say it was about policy views. The voters rejected some of the current policy stances held by Dems. Had Coakley not held those particular views she likely would have been elected.

Coakley was NOT a real incumbent, she was NOT a career politician, she was NOT establishment. So what did voters reject about her? Her policy positions had a lot to do with it.

This assures nothing for Rs. It is about political stance more than anything and right now fiscal responsibility, focus on near term problems (read economy, security) over longer term issues (read HC; energy, climate change) are in with the voters. Either party can jump on this bandwagon but my bet is Rs see it more clearly than Ds so they will benefit as long as they leave the social conservatism understated.
 
#64
#64
lawgator1 said:
I think the reason for this is that we are astounded that she could have as much appeal to as many as she apparently has. It is unnerving that so many people could be so dumb as to see her as a viable anything, much less POTUS.
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Worked for our current POTUS.
 
#67
#67
lawgator1 said:
....management of those two has tough rode to hoe.
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volinbham said:
...."rode" to hoe? that's a new one on me.
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BigPapaVol said:
Did someone say rode to hoe up there somewhere?

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lawgator1 said:
Road, ok? ROAD! Sheesz.
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BigPapaVol said:
seriously? How does one hoe a road?
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I have no part in this debate, and don't want one, but this needs to be fixed. Having raised several gardens, the term is "hard row to hoe." meaning that some rows of crops are harder to hoe than others, due to rocks, weeds, etc.

Carry on.
 
#69
#69
MWR said:
I have no part in this debate, and don't want one, but this needs to be fixed. Having raised several gardens, the term is "hard row to hoe." meaning that some rows of crops are harder to hoe than others, due to rocks, weeds, etc.

Carry on.
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Hence the reason for saying I've never seen that version before. Mistaking "road to hoe" is relatively common but not the original phrase. Changing road to rode is a twist I've never seen.
 
#70
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volinbham said:
Hence the reason for saying I've never seen that version before. Mistaking "road to hoe" is relatively common but not the original phrase. Changing road to rode is a twist I've never seen.
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Any day you learn something new is a good day. :)

Ok, not always. :crazy:

Besides, maybe LG is a rodes scholar.
 
#71
#71
MWR said:
I have no part in this debate, and don't want one, but this needs to be fixed. Having raised several gardens, the term is "hard row to hoe." meaning that some rows of crops are harder to hoe than others, due to rocks, weeds, etc.

Carry on.
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It took five years and over 17,000 posts for me to finally get something of value out of this joint. Sir, I thank you for correcting my misuse of the phrase "row to hoe."

The "rode" part was a typo, though I suppose I could have covered by saying I meant "rodeo," as in rodeo to hoe, what with the animals and hay and all. But I take my lumps both for the typo and for misuse of road versus "row."

I take solace only in knowing I am not alone.

Road to Hoe Everything Language and Grammar

(Side note: Found the mention of potholes appropo timing-wise given the Daytona 500 fiasco).
 
#72
#72
lawgator1 said:
It took five years and over 17,000 posts for me to finally get something of value out of this joint. Sir, I thank you for correcting my misuse of the phrase "row to hoe."

The "rode" part was a typo, though I suppose I could have covered by saying I meant "rodeo," as in rodeo to hoe, what with the animals and hay and all. But I take my lumps both for the typo and for misuse of road versus "row."

I take solace only in knowing I am not alone.

Road to Hoe Everything Language and Grammar

(Side note: Found the mention of potholes appropo timing-wise given the Daytona 500 fiasco).
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#73
#73
BigPapaVol said:
seriously? How does one hoe a road?
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