‘23 IL WR Carnell Tate (Ohio State commit)

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Weezer said:
Have you considered joining an OSU board so you can continue singing their praises to people that actually care?
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If I had made some true insult, like hypothetically if I had said LSU or Georgia were better than the Vols historically, I'd understand the outrage but defending the proposition that Ohio State is in the same historical peer group with Tennessee? That shouldn't be controversial at all. It's an obvious fact. I don't know why y'all are so emotional about it. I stopped getting that emotionally involved in a single recruitment long ago. Sure, I want to get Tate and others, but I don't lash out when we don't like somebody stole my girlfriend.
 
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unfrozencvmanvol said:
Florida has 200 less all-time wins than OSU. We're only 86 wins behind them, which I think CAN be explained by the relative strengths of the conferences but I think historically it's pretty clear they would be ahead of Florida and Auburn.
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Dude do you even follow what im saying? That soft ass conference is why they have wins, wins produce championships. They dont win that much in this conference. The horrible head to head matchups give that some highlight. They beat Bama once, and Arkansas with players who should not have been eligible. They also benefit of being a Media Darling of the north. Again they are a solid program and yes they have a lot of wins against a bad conference. Heisman trophies and all that jazz. But I wouldn't put them over Florida or Auburn.
 
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BigALWiLson said:
Dude do you even follow what im saying? That soft ass conference is why they have wins, wins produce championships. They dont win that much in this conference. The horrible head to head matchups give that some highlight. They beat Bama once, and Arkansas with players who should not have been eligible. They also benefit of being a Media Darling of the north. Again they are a solid program and yes they have a lot of wins against a bad conference. Heisman trophies and all that jazz. But I wouldn't put them over Florida or Auburn.
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You're not following what I'm saying, I disagree with your last sentence mainly. Florida wasn't even good until Spurrier got there. Auburn is extremely inconsistent. Ohio State has always been good, consistently. I agree the 86 game disparity between UT and OSU can be explained by the relative strengths of the conferences (so UT and OSU are peers, i.e. historical equals), but much beyond that, certainly Florida, is a real stretch. OSU is clearly a better program historically than Florida and Auburn.
 
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unfrozencvmanvol said:
You're not following what I'm saying, I disagree with your last sentence mainly. Florida wasn't even good until Spurrier got there. Auburn is extremely inconsistent. Ohio State has always been good, consistently. I agree the 86 game disparity between UT and OSU can be explained by the relative strengths of the conferences (so UT and OSU are peers, i.e. historical equals), but much beyond that, certainly Florida, is a real stretch. OSU is clearly a better program historically than Florida and Auburn.
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Agree to disagree.
 
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valleybucknut said:
Buckeye fan here. Been reading this thread over the past week or so to get your side's perspective on Tate's recruitment. Been enjoying it, lots of good info and I love a fanbase that cares. However, aside from all that, is the presiding thought really that OSU is some second rate program that is only good because it's in the "weak" Big Ten? Asked another way, if Tennessee and Ohio State flipped conferences, do you think Tennessee would be more successful in the Big Ten than Ohio State is? And that Ohio State would be less successful in the SEC than Tennessee is?

edit to give my point of view: I concede that the SEC is absolutely better than the Big Ten overall. My view is that Ohio State basically operates like a top SEC team, and that if you dropped them in the SEC, they'd compete for titles along with Georgia, Bama, and LSU. They obviously wouldn't be winning the conference every year like they do in the Big Ten, but they wouldn't be a middling SEC program either.
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With Day as your coach you’re never beating Bama or Georgia and you would struggle with other teams as well depending on whether you’re in East or west of sec. No offense I just don’t see you guys doing well consistently in the sec.
 
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unfrozencvmanvol said:
You're not following what I'm saying, I disagree with your last sentence mainly. Florida wasn't even good until Spurrier got there. Auburn is extremely inconsistent. Ohio State has always been good, consistently. I agree the 86 game disparity between UT and OSU can be explained by the relative strengths of the conferences (so UT and OSU are peers, i.e. historical equals), but much beyond that, certainly Florida, is a real stretch. OSU is clearly a better program historically than Florida and Auburn.
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A dog will gnaw on a bone less time than you on this. This is a VOL fan forum. I don’t give a crap about Ohio State. That’s it.
 
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norrislakevol said:
I think this is accurate. Ohio State would be on the level of LSU is they were in the SEC. They'd still be very good, have plenty of talent, and get into the playoffs from time to time, but the'd be no Bama.
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LSU is interesting bc their coaching situation has sucked but the talent isn’t comparable. We see this every time teams match up, Ohio state has some speed but they just don’t have the speed at every position to stack up to decent SEC teams.
 
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