I'm baffled. Help me understand how LSU was ranked higher than UT going into the season?

Why was LSU ranked #5 and UT #10/12 going into this season?

  • Brian Kelly's name and reputation are larger than Coach Heupels

    Votes: 116 31.1%

  • Voters felt that Daniels is a more proven QB than Milton

    Votes: 98 26.3%

  • LSUs most recent recruiting class was stronger than UT's

    Votes: 9 2.4%

  • LSU returned more starters than UT

    Votes: 27 7.2%

  • All of the above

    Votes: 135 36.2%

  • Other___________________________________________________________________

    Votes: 41 11.0%
  • Total voters
    373
  • Poll closed .
#52
#52
Volador said:
Truly, this is a head scratcher. The Noles played a solid 4 quarter game last night and ran away w the prize in the second half - leaving Coach Kelly in a pretty fowl mood about their performance. We embarrassed the Tigers in Baton Rouge and had a better record in 2022. We beat Clemson handily in the Orange Bowl and LSU beat Purdue in the Cheez It Citrus Bowl - who btw, lost Saturday to Fresno State at HOME on Saturday. How/why did LSU earn/deserve the #5 spot?

I do not have the answer but, have provided a few options as to why the poll voters thought so much more highly of LSU vs UT. If you think it is something other than those options, than please chime in because this one just has me baffled.

And w a long way to go this season, who knows of these poll prognosticators could be 100% accurate? This is a now question, not a later question. Happy Labor Day Vol Fans!!
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Explain to us why it matters.
 
#55
#55
You underestimate how much people like corn dogs. My kids love them too, but they're in grade school.

Figure about that level of competency and go forth
 
#57
#57
volfan_28 said:
Personally I think the narrative surrounding Milton hurts us in the rankings more than anything. Everyone knows he has a cannon, but there are a lot of doubters out there. Listen to how Jessie Palmer called the game, for example. Maybe I’m reading too much into it but it sounded to me like he expects Milton to struggle. It’s gotten to a point where every time he makes a throw that isn’t on target, people talk about his accuracy being a problem. That takes a toll on an individual’s opinion over time.
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I don’t get it. Milton played well and has for 3 straight games now. 12 TDs, 0 INTs in his UT career and completing about 70% of his passes.
 
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#58
#58
sami said:
Hard for me to believe that anyone still thinks like this. Those 15 years are history, becoming more ancient by the week.

As soon as the administration was turned over and a real pro was hired as AD, and Heupel delivered a season like 2022 with the recruiting to back it up, those 15 years ceased to exist except as a bad memory and cautionary tale to those in charge.
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This.

A decade plus in the wilderness and VBS was caused by incompetent leaders starting at the university leadership level, down to AD, down to head coach. We never had a chance with that clown show. Thank God those days are over. We have stone cold killers at AD and HBC, and also importantly, university leadership that they’re willing to work for.

It’s 2023 and we finally have a program that can compete with and beat anyone.
 
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#63
#63
Returning QB, returning OC, and they lost less than we did. With that said I thought they were way over-rated. I thought we should’ve started the season at around #8-10 and LSU around #10-12. I see now that even I was too high on them.
 
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#65
#65
There really is a kind of bi-coastal, "Northwestern-Syracuse-Duke" Journalism degreed, snobbery among the sport-writing class that felt save assuming that Kelley to LSU was "one of our smart guys" combining his brain power and elite schools experience to those "blue collar bayou Bodines" kind of magic combinations.

Kelly went to all the "right" places (went to a Massachusetts prep school / coached Notre Dame), much as they went to the "right" schools. To not assume greater success to him over Heupel---who played in Dakota-Utah-Oklahoma and coached at Utah State, Missouri, UCF, and now Tennessee(!)---would send them in an existential identity crisis.
 
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#67
#67
They were at No. 5 because the national media put them there. The national media is a joke and has been for some time. We saw what we all new from last year, Tennessee is 40-13 better than LSU. The same thing goes for Clemson.
 
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#68
#68
Because it's not based off of just last year. It's perception of what a team will be. Don't necessarily agree with it but that's how it works.
 
#69
#69
Boston Vol said:
Them winning the west last year after what Kelly inherited was a pretty impressive accomplishment. .
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Are you kidding me? Compare what Heupel inherited vs. what Kelly inherited. Night and day. Kelly inherited a ton of talent. Kelly is a good, but not great coach and his personality will not play long term in LA if he doesn't win big.
 
#71
#71
Let's do thread title again except replace LSU with Clemson... even after we beat them with basically the same team. They look about as good as Vandy right now.
 
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#72
#72
LAVol1 said:
Are you kidding me? Compare what Heupel inherited vs. what Kelly inherited. Night and day. Kelly inherited a ton of talent. Kelly is a good, but not great coach and his personality will not play long term in LA if he doesn't win big.
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Well first off, who is comparing him to Heupel? Heupel did a great job in his first year considering what he inherited. Secondly, when Kelly was hired, LSU had 38 scholarship players on the roster. What he accomplished in year one, winning the west and 10 games was impressive.
 
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#73
#73
Volador said:
Truly, this is a head scratcher. The Noles played a solid 4 quarter game last night and ran away w the prize in the second half - leaving Coach Kelly in a pretty fowl mood about their performance. We embarrassed the Tigers in Baton Rouge and had a better record in 2022. We beat Clemson handily in the Orange Bowl and LSU beat Purdue in the Cheez It Citrus Bowl - who btw, lost Saturday to Fresno State at HOME on Saturday. How/why did LSU earn/deserve the #5 spot?

I do not have the answer but, have provided a few options as to why the poll voters thought so much more highly of LSU vs UT. If you think it is something other than those options, than please chime in because this one just has me baffled.

And w a long way to go this season, who knows of these poll prognosticators could be 100% accurate? This is a now question, not a later question. Happy Labor Day Vol Fans!!
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