I'm surprised at all of you.

#51
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Ravenheart said:
Are we really going to do this EVERY time we lose? Are you going to get on here every time the Vols lose and whine, b$&@%, and moan and demand that coaches be fired and scholarships be revoked? Honestly, it makes us as a fanbase look pathetic. We sound like Kitty (Kentucky) basketball fans and Slimy Reptile football fans.

It is no secret that this loss is going to hurt for a while. However, whining about it isn't going to make our team better. Yanking Skylar's scholarship isn't going to help us win. Firing the man who resurrected Tennessee basketball is surely not going to help either. We have no power over what happens with our team, so we must leave it to Coach Pearl (and no one else, mind you) and the staff to take that team back to the gym and make the next practices before the next game absolute HELL in regards to overall toughness, defense, outside shooting, and free throws. The season is NOT over yet. No need to pack it in.

Until the season ends, or until Hamilton decides to make a move, I don't want to hear anymore whining and crying. We've got more games to play. We are Tennessee.
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But it may prevent us from losing.
 
#52
#52
Ravenheart said:
Are we really going to do this EVERY time we lose? Are you going to get on here every time the Vols lose and whine, b$&@%, and moan and demand that coaches be fired and scholarships be revoked? Honestly, it makes us as a fanbase look pathetic. We sound like Kitty (Kentucky) basketball fans and Slimy Reptile football fans.

It is no secret that this loss is going to hurt for a while. However, whining about it isn't going to make our team better. Yanking Skylar's scholarship isn't going to help us win. Firing the man who resurrected Tennessee basketball is surely not going to help either. We have no power over what happens with our team, so we must leave it to Coach Pearl (and no one else, mind you) and the staff to take that team back to the gym and make the next practices before the next game absolute HELL in regards to overall toughness, defense, outside shooting, and free throws. The season is NOT over yet. No need to pack it in.

Until the season ends, or until Hamilton decides to make a move, I don't want to hear anymore whining and crying. We've got more games to play. We are Tennessee.
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And we are on a 3 game losing streak.
 
#53
#53
Ravenheart said:
This applies to fans as well. The more you hold on to bad memories from the more the anger and frustration will take its toll on you. For example, I remember the football game against the Enemy back in 2009, when "Fat@$$" Cody blocked those two field goals. We know that both of those, if we had had our way, would have won the game. I literally wanted to puke afterward. But two hours later, I was over it, and you could probably say that it was because I took solace in the fact that Cody will never get that lucky again.

Back to your statement, they may be inept right now, but they have time to become familiar, and patience is a virtue.
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Another example as to why that IQ tests must be required before accepting members to this site. Get to work Freak.
 
#54
#54
Ravenheart said:
Are we really going to do this EVERY time we lose? Are you going to get on here every time the Vols lose and whine, b$&@%, and moan and demand that coaches be fired and scholarships be revoked? Honestly, it makes us as a fanbase look pathetic. We sound like Kitty (Kentucky) basketball fans and Slimy Reptile football fans.

It is no secret that this loss is going to hurt for a while. However, whining about it isn't going to make our team better. Yanking Skylar's scholarship isn't going to help us win. Firing the man who resurrected Tennessee basketball is surely not going to help either. We have no power over what happens with our team, so we must leave it to Coach Pearl (and no one else, mind you) and the staff to take that team back to the gym and make the next practices before the next game absolute HELL in regards to overall toughness, defense, outside shooting, and free throws. The season is NOT over yet. No need to pack it in.

Until the season ends, or until Hamilton decides to make a move, I don't want to hear anymore whining and crying. We've got more games to play. We are Tennessee.
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You really have no business posting on a message board if you dont want to hear others' opinons. people wanna rant about mcbee and pearl...get over it.
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#55
#55
Seems we should fire every coach every year, hire new ones every year until we get one to win a national championship. Basketball and football.

Is that about it ?

Then there's Pat, hitting the glass ceiling so many times since her last NC. Pitiful.
I say fire her too.
 
#56
#56
kw7pd4 said:
Seems we should fire every coach every year, hire new ones every year until we get one to win a national championship. Basketball and football.

Is that about it ?

Then there's Pat, hitting the glass ceiling so many times since her last NC. Pitiful.
I say fire her too.
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No joke. We just made elite eight first time ever and people want coach fired.
 
#57
#57
Freak said:
I'll be the first to admit that my memory fails me at times. Has this been an issue in years past? I don't remember it being a problem before this season.
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Off the top of my head
2009 - UT vs Miss St. SECCG
2009 - UT vs OK St. NCAA Tourney
 
#58
#58
VolDad said:
Off the top of my head
2009 - UT vs Miss St. SECCG
2009 - UT vs OK St. NCAA Tourney
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Don't forget Weezy against Purdue (2009).

I'm pretty sure if you check through the '08/'09 season, you'll find a lot of late game ineptitude, although I don't know about last shots.

Gonzaga: OT loss (I believe we had a chance to win in regulation, but not sure)
Memphis: 54-52 loss
Auburn: 78-77 loss
Alabama: 70-67 loss (they hit a halfcourt shot at the buzzer)
MSU and Okie State, as you mentioned

Rucker had a stat earlier in the year that Pearl's Tennessee teams are something like 1-8 in one point games, although they do very well in 2-5 point games.
 
#59
#59
Pointing out close losses is only looking at one side of the coin. To fully break it down, we would need to compare all the successes versus failures in games that were decided at the end and determine whether that number is overwhelmingly skewed as it is this year.
 
#60
#60
:glare: :glare: :glare: :glare:

Ugh. Unbelievable. All of you. There's no way to get you all to listen to reason, is there?

1) I have NEVER said I didn't want to listen to your opinions. I just don't want to listen to people whine like children. It's pathetic. How about we agree that no one is perfect?

2) Real intelligent to intentionally take my words out of context. Skylar McBee may be struggling, but who doesn't these days? He's not perfect. We all would like him to play better, but downgrading him and insulting him isn't going to make him better. What's next? Death threats? Throwing stones through his windows? Come on, people.

3) I am more of a Vol fan than you can imagine. But being a Vol fan doesn't warrant impatience, hasty judgments, going to extremes with certain players (I.e. Jonathan Crompton), etc. This shows that there is no loyalty within this fanbase, whether we win or lose. The reason I say this is because I have a friend who is a supporter of The Enemy, and she told me that the reason she hates Tennessee is because (besides the fact she has family down there) there is no loyalty in our fanbase. I was quick to scoff at her and dismiss her statement as complete garbage, but I began to wonder, "What if she is right?" So, I began to assess things a bit. As soon as we falter and succumb to defeat, we whine and yell and kick and scream because something that we as fans have no control over did not turn out in our favor. Furthermore, we are quick to judge our teams and abandon them at the drop of a hat (I.e. those vowing to give up on Bruce and the BasketVols). That is truly sickening and disheartening to watch, particularly because all of you are proving her right. I am really hoping that we can learn to embrace our teams and the coaches who lead them, whether they win or lose, and finally make a liar out of my friend, as much as I respect her, and realize that Orange is, and will always be, better than Crimson.

4) I have NEVER said we should accept mediocrity. I am not any happier with our team's play than you are. But understand that our team is not perfect. Bruce Pearl is not perfect. Scotty is not perfect. Cameron is not perfect. Brian is not perfect. Tobias is not perfect. Melvin, Steven, and more importantly Skylar are not perfect. They are only human, and will fall on hard times eventually in their lives. The real trick is picking the appropriate time to struggle, and hopefully it will not be in crunch time. As I said before, all of this negativity isn't going to solve anything. Just encourage them to do better, but don't downgrade them and belittle them; you'd be surprised at how many people respond adversely to that. They're not professional athletes. They're just kids; never forget that.
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#61
#61
Just out of curiosity, I went back and skimmed through all the games in the Pearl era before this year that were decided by three points or less. Final scores can be misleading so I don't know that it really proves anything one way or the other about late game success vs. failure, but here are the results.

2005 1-1
2006 5-4
2007 7-2
2008 3-5
2009 4-2
 
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#62
#62
Freak said:
Just out of curiosity, I went back and skimmed through all the games in the Pearl era before this year that were decided by three points or less. Final scores can be misleading so I don't know that it really proves anything one way or the other about late game success vs. failure, but here are the results.

2005 1-1
2006 5-4
2007 7-2
2008 3-5
2009 4-2
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Losses have a longer lasting after taste than wins, and giving the current situation with basketball, even more so.
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#63
#63
JTrainDavis said:
Losses have a longer lasting after taste than wins, and giving the current situation with basketball, even more so.
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A longer lasting taste? :lol:

I guess that depends on your personality and point of view. I tend to remember the wins, but that's just me.
 
#65
#65
Freak said:
Just out of curiosity, I went back and skimmed through all the games in the Pearl era before this year that were decided by three points or less. Final scores can be misleading so I don't know that it really proves anything one way or the other about late game success vs. failure, but here are the results.

2005 1-1
W - Winthrop (1st round)
L - Kentucky
2006 5-4
W - OK State, S. Carolina, LSU, Bama, Virginia (2nd round)
L - Ohio State, Vandy, Aurburn, Ohio State (3rd round)
2007 7-2
W - LSU, Kentucky, Florida, S. Carolina, Ole Miss, Georgia, West Virginia
L - Arkansas, Vandy
2008 3-5
W - Belmont, S. Carolina, Arkansas
L - Memphis, Auburn, Alabama, Miss. State, OK State (1st round)
2009 4-2
W - Ole Miss, Florida, San Diego St. (1st round), Ohio State (3rd round)
L - Purdue, Michigan St. (4th round)
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2010 3-4
W - Belmont, Vandy, Georgia
L - Charlotte, USC, Arkansas, Florida

Expanded the stats a bit. Don't know if it shows anything worthwhile, I was just curious.
 
#66
#66
Late game calling has always been bad. Even when Tennessee is the winning end it's usually because a shooter bailed Tennessee out. The 3 smart end of game situations are Lofton's game winner in the SEC tournament and feeding the ball to Smith in the post against Ole Miss and Memphis.
 
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#67
#67
23-19 overall in close games. Fire him, take away the scholarships of the players, even get rid of the managers who are not getting the right towels out to the players on the bench.
 
#68
#68
Smebody up in here likes attention so much they went to a look at me whorish font to tout they allsome fandom.
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#69
#69
Freak said:
Just out of curiosity, I went back and skimmed through all the games in the Pearl era before this year that were decided by three points or less. Final scores can be misleading so I don't know that it really proves anything one way or the other about late game success vs. failure, but here are the results.

2005 1-1
2006 5-4
2007 7-2
2008 3-5
2009 4-2
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If you check that list again, I believe you'll find that it's 1 point games that have been our undoing. We're pretty strong in everything else. And honestly, I think it's the one point games that have been frustrating us mostly--taking threes when twos would suffice.

edit: Wes Rucker did the work for me. In Pearl's tenure at Tennessee, we're 33-10 in 2-5 point games and 2-9 in 1 point games. The question: is this a statistical anomaly or is there something about one point games (the way we handle the last shot?) that makes them problematic?

In both one point wins, by the way, Scotty Hopson hit the game-winning shot.
 
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