In Italy, Economy and Law Leave Many Single Fathers Broke and Homeless

[hog88]

Personally, I think women ought to be treated equal to men and decisions regarding employment, child care, child support, and alimony should not be, in any manner, gender dependent. However, as stated above, I do not see how one who does not think the first decision (employment) should be gender independent can then argue that the third and fourth decisions (child support and alimony) should be gender independent.

That said, please propose what it is you think the solution to the relationships in the West ought to be.

I will agree with you on this once they are held to the same standards. In places such as the police force/firemen ext they lowered the standards so the women could be hired. In the military their standards are lower than men but recieve the same pay. What's fair about that?

I could go on and on and dig up numbers on men vs women missed work days/FMLA used ext in the buisness world.

 

[therealUT]

I will agree with you on this once they are held to the same standards. In places such as the police force/firemen ext they lowered the standards so the women could be hired. In the military their standards are lower than men but recieve the same pay. What's fair about that?

I could go on and on and dig up numbers on men vs women missed work days/FMLA used ext in the buisness world.

I agree to an extent: I think that in the military physical fitness standards actually matter in very few MOSs (infantry, field artillery,...and, infantry and field artillery; maybe military police). Aside from that, it makes no difference for pure job performance whether non-combat arms personnel are physically fit; therefore, they should receive the same pay. I would love to see infantry opened up to females that score above a 270 on the men's APFT scale.

Of course, one could also easily point out that the physical fitness standards are different for different age groups, yet the pay is the same. This occurs even in light infantry units where physical fitness is relevant to job performance. So, should a 33 year-old, E-6 squad leader who scores a 280 on his APFT make the same salary as a 31 year-old, E-6 squad leader who scores a 280 on his APFT? Should either earn as much as an E-6 who scores a 300?

I cannot think of any other standards that are different for women (marksmanship scoring is the same for both genders).

 

[hog88]

I agree to an extent: I think that in the military physical fitness standards actually matter in very few MOSs (infantry, field artillery,...and, infantry and field artillery; maybe military police). Aside from that, it makes no difference for pure job performance whether non-combat arms personnel are physically fit; therefore, they should receive the same pay. I would love to see infantry opened up to females that score above a 270 on the men's APFT scale.

Of course, one could also easily point out that the physical fitness standards are different for different age groups, yet the pay is the same. This occurs even in light infantry units where physical fitness is relevant to job performance. So, should a 33 year-old, E-6 squad leader who scores a 280 on his APFT make the same salary as a 31 year-old, E-6 squad leader who scores a 280 on his APFT? Should either earn as much as an E-6 who scores a 300?

I cannot think of any other standards that are different for women (marksmanship scoring is the same for both genders).

I always had a problem with the pay vs. MOS and grade. As a 11B, both air asault/jump wings, sniper qualified and Ranger tab (never in regiment) I always thought I should be paid more than a REMF clerk of the same grade. I also firmly believe there should be a maximum time in grade before being thrown out.

As for the females in combat arms, very against. The worst disiplined units were always the support units with females. Not the ladies fault mind you, it was the guys fault trying to bed them.

 

[therealUT]

I always had a problem with the pay vs. MOS and grade. As a 11B, both air asault/jump wings, sniper qualified and Ranger tab (never in regiment) I always thought I should be paid more than a REMF clerk of the same grade. I also firmly believe there should be a maximum time in grade before being thrown out.

I thought and still think the same.

As for the females in combat arms, very against. The worst disiplined units were always the support units with females. Not the ladies fault mind you, it was the guys fault trying to bed them.

Now that BCUs are more integrated, support companies are attached to combat battalions, and females are in Infantry Battalion S-Shops, I would say that the discipline problems from those units are less based on the fact that those units are integrated and more based on the fact that those units are simply not Infantry units.

 

[hog88]

I thought and still think the same.



Now that BCUs are more integrated, support companies are attached to combat battalions, and females are in Infantry Battalion S-Shops, I would say that the discipline problems from those units are less based on the fact that those units are integrated and more based on the fact that those units are simply not Infantry units.

Been out almost 20 years so I know there have been major changes since the RCTs of the 80's and 90's.

We once had a CSMG who actualy wrote DOA with suggestions such as:
1) All bastard children born to WACS should be locked in cages, fed raw meat and poked with sticks until 16 then put them in the 75th.
2) Before being promoted to E-5 a soldier should be shot in the leg with a 22 and force marched 20 miles so they would know what pain is.

Crazy SOB but a good CSMG. I doubt a guy like him could make it in todays Army.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Men can't even find justice in Australia. Interestingly, the judge (based on his last name) and the father in this case appear to be Italian...


Justice is blind to fathers, writes Miranda Devine | thetelegraph.com.au

Magistrate Tom Altobelli's letter to the boy, 11, and girl, 6, was nicely written. But it is no substitute for the love of a father whose contact has been reduced to letters, birthday cards and gifts.

The mother had accused the father of sexually abusing their daughter. The court heard her belief was based on the predictions of a clairvoyant.

Magistrate Altobelli, who heard all the evidence, concluded the father had not done it.

Yet the father was still punished by losing his children.

Just like in the Brian Banks case, a woman lies and ruins a man's future and fortune, yet gets off free as a bird.

 

[Ned Ray McWorkher]

Every black adult male in jail in Italy?
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When did Italy create a race of people? African-Italian?