In order for a team to beat Alabama

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Did anyone watch A&M and OU in cotton bowl?A&M win was no fluke. They probably finish season in top 5. I agree Bama may be slightly better but when you got a freshman QB at A&M that plays like he does and wins Heisman you have real good chance beating anyone.
 
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CountVolcula said:
you HAVE to not only control but dominate both lines of scrimmage. The Texas A&M came was a fluke. It was an off day for Alabama. 9 times out of 10, Alabama wins that game.

You can have the fastest RBs, best QB, Best WRs, you are not beating Bama unless you have superior OL and DL talent. You have to beat them at their own game

Alabama wins by dominating those two lines. With that, they can control the game. They don't control it by running gimmicky offenses or trying to throw for 500 yards and 5 TDs. They pound, pound, pound your OL and DL into dust

Until you beat them at their game, your chances of success are minimal. Until you recruit the meanest SOBs on both sides of the line, you won't have much of a chance

So getting your hopes up about speed,speed,speed isn't going to do much good if you can't control that line
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I agree with the first bolded sentence but not the second. Yes, I think that football in general will always be a battle at the LOS first and foremost. Dominating the LOS is the key to winning.

That said, I think a team needs to be true to itself and not change who they are at the core just because they are playing Bama (or anyone else). If you strive to beat them at their own game and that forces you to do things you haven't done all year, then that is a recipe for disaster.

In my view, we tried to do a lot of different things over the CDD era and never found our core strength. Consequently, when things got rough, we didn't have anything to really fall back on.

I didn't really watch a lot of ND games this season, but it seemed as though they were trying to be Bama rather than be ND.

Just my philosophizing...
 
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I'll take TAMU every time in that game. There are some good teams this year, but not any great teams. JMO.
 
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fade route said:
We all need to stop hyperventilating over Bama being the greatest team in the history of organized football. In 2 of the 3 years they've won it all they entered the NC game with one loss. They can be beat and do get beat. However, most of the time they play disciplined, fundamentally sound football and recruit really well. It's as simple as that. Let's move on to signing day.
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They've backed into the NC game the last 2 yrs. & gotten there only because Ok St lost to Iowa St (OT) in 2011 & because Oregon lost to Stanford (OT) & K St lost to Baylor in 2012. Ala is good, but also lucky.
 
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fade route said:
We all need to stop hyperventilating over Bama being the greatest team in the history of organized football. In 2 of the 3 years they've won it all they entered the NC game with one loss. They can be beat and do get beat. However, most of the time they play disciplined, fundamentally sound football and recruit really well. It's as simple as that. Let's move on to signing day.
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Thunk...thunk.

Me hitting the floor agreeing with fade.

:)
 
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txVOL4 said:
Bama wasn't as prepared for Manziel. This helped a&m get off to a fast start. At the half (which bama is one of the best)they made adjustments and the aggies only put together one drive the entire second half. Bama just got down to early before they could figure out how to contain Manziel. Game was no fluke though. Notre Dame was beyond overated. They played a weak schedule and being an independent and going undefeated helped get them to the NC. Their 2 biggest wins were USCe and Okie. Okie got scraped by a&m and USCe got embarrassed by a mediocre GaTech team. All in all, i hate bammer, but i hate the golden dome more and loved every minute of their their overrated a$$es getting kicked. GO VOLS
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I thought USCe was S Carolina as in USCeast?
 
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Cartervol said:
I'd take my chances with a mobile QB.. That's the only way to keep them off balance.. That QB has to be able to make throws though.. Most lines in the SEC aren't as grossly overmatched as ND was last night...
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Yeah, worked for Michigan.
 
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volboy81 said:
They've backed into the NC game the last 2 yrs. & gotten there only because Ok St lost to Iowa St (OT) in 2011 & because Oregon lost to Stanford (OT) & K St lost to Baylor in 2012. Ala is good, but also lucky.
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I agree... when we had Peyton we did not have second chance after getting beat by UF.
 
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CountVolcula said:
you HAVE to not only control but dominate both lines of scrimmage. The Texas A&M came was a fluke. It was an off day for Alabama. 9 times out of 10, Alabama wins that game.

You can have the fastest RBs, best QB, Best WRs, you are not beating Bama unless you have superior OL and DL talent. You have to beat them at their own game

Alabama wins by dominating those two lines. With that, they can control the game. They don't control it by running gimmicky offenses or trying to throw for 500 yards and 5 TDs. They pound, pound, pound your OL and DL into dust

Until you beat them at their game, your chances of success are minimal. Until you recruit the meanest SOBs on both sides of the line, you won't have much of a chance

So getting your hopes up about speed,speed,speed isn't going to do much good if you can't control that line
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Just out recruit them. Simple
 
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If Commissioner Slive called the ND AD this morning to invite them to join the SEC how long do you think it would take him to say, "Hell, No!"?
 
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Don't misunderstand this because I think that A & M is a very good football team, but Alabama lost to them because of the schedule. Their game was the next week after Alabama's dramatic comeback win over their chief rival, LSU. They were due for a slow start in the A & M game.
 
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1972 Grad said:
Don't misunderstand this because I think that A & M is a very good football team, but Alabama lost to them because of the schedule. Their game was the next week after Alabama's dramatic comeback win over their chief rival, LSU. They were due for a slow start in the A & M game.
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Exactly. The Aggies are probably the second best team in the country; though.
 
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1725gatorhater said:
I agree... when we had Peyton we did not have second chance after getting beat by UF.
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Actually, we did. At the end of the 1997 season we played in the last Bowl Alliance Championship game (Rose Bowl chose not to be part of this alliance) against Nebraska. Had we won we would have automatically been declared #1 in the Coaches Poll and would have put "1997" up in big bold numbers in Neyland Stadium as another national championship season.
 
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tvols75 said:
Nick Saban, if anyone heard him, mentioned his weakness last night after the game. He was talking about coaching and then he got agitated when he mentioned no huddle offenses taking the coaching out of the game because they cannot substitute. Was very interesting. That A&M game was not a fluke; it's his weakness.
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Exactly. Why do you think Oregon is so successful? They practice heavily on no-huddle offense. You have to have the right players for this to work.
 
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Diagree. If there was a playoff this year and Texas A&M was in it then they would be National Champs.
Notre Damę was very overated. Notre Damę would have went 5-7 or 6-6 in SEC schedule.
 
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CountVolcula said:
you HAVE to not only control but dominate both lines of scrimmage. The Texas A&M came was a fluke. It was an off day for Alabama. 9 times out of 10, Alabama wins that game.

You can have the fastest RBs, best QB, Best WRs, you are not beating Bama unless you have superior OL and DL talent. You have to beat them at their own game

Alabama wins by dominating those two lines. With that, they can control the game. They don't control it by running gimmicky offenses or trying to throw for 500 yards and 5 TDs. They pound, pound, pound your OL and DL into dust

Until you beat them at their game, your chances of success are minimal. Until you recruit the meanest SOBs on both sides of the line, you won't have much of a chance

So getting your hopes up about speed,speed,speed isn't going to do much good if you can't control that line
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You mean like the 98" Vols, that is what Alabama of today resembles in some ways.
 
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CountVolcula said:
you HAVE to not only control but dominate both lines of scrimmage. The Texas A&M came was a fluke. It was an off day for Alabama. 9 times out of 10, Alabama wins that game.

You can have the fastest RBs, best QB, Best WRs, you are not beating Bama unless you have superior OL and DL talent. You have to beat them at their own game

Alabama wins by dominating those two lines. With that, they can control the game. They don't control it by running gimmicky offenses or trying to throw for 500 yards and 5 TDs. They pound, pound, pound your OL and DL into dust

Until you beat them at their game, your chances of success are minimal. Until you recruit the meanest SOBs on both sides of the line, you won't have much of a chance

So getting your hopes up about speed,speed,speed isn't going to do much good if you can't control that line
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The best way to beat Alabama is to score more points than they do!! Simple......
 
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Or you can wait for NCAA sanctions to decimate the team. Isn't Bama due for their regular 10 year NCAA smackdown? Oh never mind, still a few more years to go before the hammer gets dropped on them, again.
 
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A&M was not a fluke. Thei Ala line didn't play well two weeks in a row. They won one and lost the other.

Ala just plays well disciplined ball and you can only win by playing equally, or more, disciplined ball, starting with a solid game plan and then execution. ND had neither.
 
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CountVolcula said:
you HAVE to not only control but dominate both lines of scrimmage. The Texas A&M came was a fluke. It was an off day for Alabama. 9 times out of 10, Alabama wins that game.

You can have the fastest RBs, best QB, Best WRs, you are not beating Bama unless you have superior OL and DL talent. You have to beat them at their own game

Alabama wins by dominating those two lines. With that, they can control the game. They don't control it by running gimmicky offenses or trying to throw for 500 yards and 5 TDs. They pound, pound, pound your OL and DL into dust

Until you beat them at their game, your chances of success are minimal. Until you recruit the meanest SOBs on both sides of the line, you won't have much of a chance

So getting your hopes up about speed,speed,speed isn't going to do much good if you can't control that line
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Biggest gimmick Bama used last night was play action pass. I was rather impressed at the straight forward play. You are right though..dominate the lines, control the game.
 
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