Inflation in your World

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hog88 said:
In other words, you can’t name a single one that would have delayed your build. It’s that simple.
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OSHA's vaccine or weekly test mandate. it was "formalized" under Biden, but Trump started the testing requirements through bureaucratic processes. and that was back when testing was darn near impossible to get, yet alone weekly. it was eventually struck down by the SC, including the Trump aspects.

Federal contracts & contractors vaccine mandates, applied to new HUD projects, this was one. This was separate from the OSHA mandate, and again started under Trump and Biden signed an EO making it official policy and not just a bureaucratic overstep.

pretty much every single governor adopted various CDC measures and enacted them thru EOs or emergency powers, granted through an EO. most of those EOs and CDC measures came out in 2020.

The main ones that hit us here were the jobs that weren't deemed critical, usually it was an issue dealing with trades from different states with different requirements. Construction was deemed critical in most states, but many of the smaller subs will still shut down or couldn't get the parts they needed. it made the supply line EXTREMELY complicated and quadrupled prices almost over night. This started with the 2020 federal CISA requirements.

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there was no one single thing that specifically shut it down, it was a series of issues that all started from Trump's administration, which made this particular project impossible at the time. and probably plenty of others. and now with inflation ROI is a major problem. If it hadn't been for these, and probably some others I am forgetting, the project could have started long before inflation hit. and I also think many of those restriction either directly or indirectly lead to the inflation we are seeing today.
 
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whodeycin85 said:
He literally says just a little bit longer after say May 1st...is April 22 before May 1st and just a little bit away ..yes..so he wanted to open up but left it to the states..I get you hold him responsible 100% and that your choice...but it's not accurate according to what we have both posted thus far..no point in going further..Trump made mistakes but ultimately it was the state governors calls..if they choose to follow Faucci that's on them..in on Trump for leaving that snake a the podium that long...but good luck with your projects
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May 1 is a complete assumption by you. The behind closed doors is the typical un-named sources and "people familiar with the situation" non-sense that we reject from the pro-Dem crowd, so I am not sure why I would accept it for Trump.

I 100% blame Trump because he said it himself.

apnews.com

Trump claims 'total' authority, over govs, to reopen economy

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump claimed the “total” authority Monday to decide how and when to reopen the economy after weeks of tough social distancing guidelines aimed at fighting the new coronavirus.
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"President Donald Trump claimed the “total” authority Monday to decide how and when to reopen the economy after weeks of tough social distancing guidelines aimed at fighting the new coronavirus. But governors from both parties were quick to push back, noting they have primary responsibility for ensuring public safety in their states and would decide when it’s safe to begin a return to normal operations.
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“When somebody is president of the United States, the authority is total,” Trump said at the White House. “The governors know that.”
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“The president of the United States calls the shots,” he said, promising to release a paper outlining his legal argument.""

that legal argument never came, and about 10 days later he was arguing against Kemp opening back up. If he wanted Kemp to open a week or two later, that should have been his response. But as usual Trump didn't offer any justification, and just claimed extra-executive powers over the states just so he could have a big "Trump opens the economy" moment, not because of a safety concern.
 
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LouderVol said:
OSHA's vaccine or weekly test mandate. it was "formalized" under Biden, but Trump started the testing requirements through bureaucratic processes. and that was back when testing was darn near impossible to get, yet alone weekly. it was eventually struck down by the SC, including the Trump aspects.

Federal contracts & contractors vaccine mandates, applied to new HUD projects, this was one. This was separate from the OSHA mandate, and again started under Trump and Biden signed an EO making it official policy and not just a bureaucratic overstep.

pretty much every single governor adopted various CDC measures and enacted them thru EOs or emergency powers, granted through an EO. most of those EOs and CDC measures came out in 2020.

The main ones that hit us here were the jobs that weren't deemed critical, usually it was an issue dealing with trades from different states with different requirements. Construction was deemed critical in most states, but many of the smaller subs will still shut down or couldn't get the parts they needed. it made the supply line EXTREMELY complicated and quadrupled prices almost over night. This started with the 2020 federal CISA requirements.

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www.pillsburylaw.com

there was no one single thing that specifically shut it down, it was a series of issues that all started from Trump's administration, which made this particular project impossible at the time. and probably plenty of others. and now with inflation ROI is a major problem. If it hadn't been for these, and probably some others I am forgetting, the project could have started long before inflation hit. and I also think many of those restriction either directly or indirectly lead to the inflation we are seeing today.
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None of that was done at the federal level. That was all state level actions and in most areas completely ignored within the construction and service industry.

We work and worked all over the country during the height of the covid stupidity, of course we saw projects delayed and canceled but none were due to federal covid rules/regulations. They were all due to uncertainty in how it would all play out and many companies decided to hold onto their cash or capitulated to state edicts. We actually grew, more like exploded during 2020/21 because we would roll when other contractors wouldn't.
 
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hog88 said:
None of that was done at the federal level. That was all state level actions and in most areas completely ignored within the construction and service industry.

We work and worked all over the country during the height of the covid stupidity, of course we saw projects delayed and canceled but none were due to federal covid rules/regulations. They were all due to uncertainty in how it would all play out and many companies decided to hold onto their cash or capitulated to state edicts. We actually grew, more like exploded during 2020/21 because we would roll when other contractors wouldn't.
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OSHA and the CDC aren't at the federal level? federal contracts and HUD aren't at the Federal level?

you claim there weren't problems, but then admit you were able to grow due to the problems others were having.

maybe if your company was in our market providing all the concrete, steel, copper, pvc, glass, speciality trades, so on and so forth, the project could have proceeded. but the reality is those federal requirements created problems, and it shut this project down, and I am willing to bet many others. I only have first hand knowledge of this one.
 
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LouderVol said:
OSHA and the CDC aren't at the federal level? federal contracts and HUD aren't at the Federal level?

you claim there weren't problems, but then admit you were able to grow due to the problems others were having.

maybe if your company was in our market providing all the concrete, steel, copper, pvc, glass, speciality trades, so on and so forth, the project could have proceeded. but the reality is those federal requirements created problems, and it shut this project down, and I am willing to bet many others. I only have first hand knowledge of this one.
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Yes there were problems, people compounded their own problems by listening to CDC and OSHA guidance. And yes it was guidance and not rules/regulations.

Don't get me wrong, Trump and his administration screwed up the way Covid was initially handled and states/localities doubled down on the screw ups. If you allowed your business to be run by those idiots that's on you.
 
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LouderVol said:
May 1 is a complete assumption by you. The behind closed doors is the typical un-named sources and "people familiar with the situation" non-sense that we reject from the pro-Dem crowd, so I am not sure why I would accept it for Trump.

I 100% blame Trump because he said it himself.

apnews.com

Trump claims 'total' authority, over govs, to reopen economy

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump claimed the “total” authority Monday to decide how and when to reopen the economy after weeks of tough social distancing guidelines aimed at fighting the new coronavirus.
apnews.com apnews.com

"President Donald Trump claimed the “total” authority Monday to decide how and when to reopen the economy after weeks of tough social distancing guidelines aimed at fighting the new coronavirus. But governors from both parties were quick to push back, noting they have primary responsibility for ensuring public safety in their states and would decide when it’s safe to begin a return to normal operations.
...
“When somebody is president of the United States, the authority is total,” Trump said at the White House. “The governors know that.”
...
“The president of the United States calls the shots,” he said, promising to release a paper outlining his legal argument.""

that legal argument never came, and about 10 days later he was arguing against Kemp opening back up. If he wanted Kemp to open a week or two later, that should have been his response. But as usual Trump didn't offer any justification, and just claimed extra-executive powers over the states just so he could have a big "Trump opens the economy" moment, not because of a safety concern.
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He was calling for the states to reopen in May 1st when the white house would..you agree he cannot force states open or close thier economy...it the governor discretion...now be mad about the spending and leaving Faucci at the mic to long but you can't blame him for states closing down..that you bias against Trump overwhelming your thoughts.
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Timeline: Government's evolving guidance on when Americans can return to work

While a battle brews between federal and state powers, Americans are left questioning when life will get back to normal -- and when will everyone return to work?
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whodeycin85 said:
He was calling for the states to reopen in May 1st when the white house would..you agree he cannot force states open or close thier economy...it the governor discretion...now be mad about the spending and leaving Faucci at the mic to long but you can't blame him for states closing down..that you bias against Trump overwhelming your thoughts.
www.google.com

Timeline: Government's evolving guidance on when Americans can return to work

While a battle brews between federal and state powers, Americans are left questioning when life will get back to normal -- and when will everyone return to work?
www.google.com www.google.com
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like I said, he wanted it to be all about him. he said he was going to overrule the governors. I quoted as much, no bias there.

He didn't care about the economy being shut down, he cared because he wanted a big moment for him.

Fauci and the spending are all part of his administration that I brought up at the beginning. before all the little government conservatives had to jump in and defend some of the biggest big government moves in my life time to make sure no wrong is ever associated with Trump.
 
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LouderVol said:
like I said, he wanted it to be all about him. he said he was going to overrule the governors. I quoted as much, no bias there.

He didn't care about the economy being shut down, he cared because he wanted a big moment for him.

Fauci and the spending are all part of his administration that I brought up at the beginning. before all the little government conservatives had to jump in and defend some of the biggest big government moves in my life time to make sure no wrong is ever associated with Trump.
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What actions did Trump take??? Not what did Trump say what did she DO? The Trump said this argument is that same that weak minded liberals use to defend Biden v Trump...if you can't point to a policy or something besides Trump said, the ya got nothing.
 
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whodeycin85 said:
What actions did Trump take??? Not what did Trump say what did she DO? The Trump said this argument is that same that weak minded liberals use to defend Biden v Trump...if you can't point to a policy or something besides Trump said, the ya got nothing.
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Fauci and the spending. as i stated, his administration, for which he is responsible, was part of the problem.

he also got on TV and publicly called out a governor, that was him doing something. it would be a completely different situation if he said it behind closed doors. I don't see how you can try to defend him with what he might have said behind closed doors, but what he said on a national stage with full quotes, videos, and multiple sources, doesn't matter.

he also had a number of EOs, 13909, 13910, 13911, 13917, 13922, 13927 that dealt with Covid. and those were just until June, didn't bother looking for more. I didn't read them word for word, but I am willing to bet there is an overstep or two in those.
 
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LouderVol said:
May 1 is a complete assumption by you. The behind closed doors is the typical un-named sources and "people familiar with the situation" non-sense that we reject from the pro-Dem crowd, so I am not sure why I would accept it for Trump.

I 100% blame Trump because he said it himself.

apnews.com

Trump claims 'total' authority, over govs, to reopen economy

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump claimed the “total” authority Monday to decide how and when to reopen the economy after weeks of tough social distancing guidelines aimed at fighting the new coronavirus.
apnews.com apnews.com

"President Donald Trump claimed the “total” authority Monday to decide how and when to reopen the economy after weeks of tough social distancing guidelines aimed at fighting the new coronavirus. But governors from both parties were quick to push back, noting they have primary responsibility for ensuring public safety in their states and would decide when it’s safe to begin a return to normal operations.
...
“When somebody is president of the United States, the authority is total,” Trump said at the White House. “The governors know that.”
...
“The president of the United States calls the shots,” he said, promising to release a paper outlining his legal argument.""

that legal argument never came, and about 10 days later he was arguing against Kemp opening back up. If he wanted Kemp to open a week or two later, that should have been his response. But as usual Trump didn't offer any justification, and just claimed extra-executive powers over the states just so he could have a big "Trump opens the economy" moment, not because of a safety concern.
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There is an alarming irony in that conservatives claim to be against too much federal control, or don't like absolutist, unitarian control. Yet they'd vote for Trump, who represents that to the nth degree.
 
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lawgator1 said:
There is an alarming irony in that conservatives claim to be against too much federal control, or don't like absolutist, unitarian control. Yet they'd vote for Trump, who represents that to the nth degree.
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I dont play that game anymore..after Russiagate the Republic is over..it is win at all costs now and govern by any means. You know how you and others said remove Trump with any legal means..well one day it is going to boomerang on yall.

The irony is that is democracy that you advocate..the will of the victor imposed on the minority.
 
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US economy shows growth resulting in higher CPI again. We’re still just “stimulating” the economy by printing $$ to fund Ukraine, payments to migrants, student loan cancellation, etc. and pushing inflation higher. Markets took a dump today knowing rates will likely push higher again and Fed ain’t cutting anytime soon, nor should they. Everything has a price. What price will the American consumer and investor pay for the trick f’ing the economy?
 
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Raw material prices are declining...good for my company. CEO is worrying about deflation as an overreaction and, yes, SUDDEN deflation would be devastating rn.

The covid-era supply chain madness seems to have stimmed and coming off it.
 
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