Interesting comment on Butch Vs. Dooley...

[zidanefan]

Working hard vs. Working smart

The results are what matters and the results are clear, regardless of perception.

 

[DaddyChad]

Mentioned Sunseri as a recruiter. Lost me right there.

Well I mean Sal had to be good at something right? He sold Dooley on hiring him so maybe he's a better salesman than we give him credit for.

 

[mdrew27]

Butch's action speak louder than this dudes words. We're killin it on the recruiting front.

 

[PEPPERJAX]

Well I mean Sal had to be good at something right? He sold Dooley on hiring him so maybe he's a better salesman than we give him credit for.

Sal was pretty good at pretending to be an SEC D coordinator.

 

[jlindsa4]

This probably means that the dooley staff was also working hard in the Atlanta area, not that the Jones staff is half-a**ing. The difference is no one likes dooley's personality.

 

[DaddyChad]

Agreed...he was kinda saying.."they tried real hard...but they were idiots"

Maybe I'm crazy BUT I don't remember Dooley on the recruiting trail that much. At least not as much as Jones, I mean sure he would go in to close some guys but I don't remember him being as visible in recruiting especially not early in the recruiting cycle.

I will acknowledge however I haven't followed recruiting as closely lately since the kids started sports so maybe that's not accurate.

 

[Pepe_Silvia]

Dooley

 

[KnoxVillain]

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[Jackcrevol]

work smarter not harder

 

[BookVol]

Dooley, slippin up the holler. Dooley, tryna make a doller. Dooley, gimme a swaller and I'll pay ya back some day! :hi:

Yeah we're paying him all right...

Worst 5 million dollars ever spent.

Although maybe not since we paid to get rid of him.

 

[KBVol]

I remember Dooley recruiting Georgia pretty hard, actually. Several of his best recruits were from GA.

It's Tennessee that he ignored entirely.

Welp, that's 37-1 in terms of coaches who think Dooley didn't do ish in terms of recruiting vs those who think he did.

 

[orangeluvr]

Ran across this 247 article this morning and I read a sentence that floored me.....

"Howie DeCristofaro, who coaches Sapp and three-star 2015 guard Nick Wilson at Atlanta-area Milton High School and has sent multiple players to Tennessee and other SEC programs over the past several years, said the Vols aren’t working any harder in the Atlanta area under Jones than they did under Dooley."

....Whaaaaaaaaaa? I find this extremely hard to believe but hey who knows. Maybe Dooley only threw himself onto a few schools and hung on for dear life. What are y'alls thoughts?

Tennessee Vols football recruiting: Georgia on Tennessee's Mind

Butch's results prove otherwise.

 

[easybakemethlab]

I doubt one coach at one high school can know the state of a program's recruiting efforts in a metro area of 6 million people with countless other schools.

 

[PACKERVOL]

"Never confuse activity with accomplishment. Results are what count."
-Anonymous-

 

[TNVolunteerGrad]

Working harder doesn't always mean more effective.

 

[DeepPurpleFloyd]

Sal did a great job working the buffets in the Atlanta area. Ya know what I'm sayin'?

 

[oldsmokey67]

Ran across this 247 article this morning and I read a sentence that floored me.....

"Howie DeCristofaro, who coaches Sapp and three-star 2015 guard Nick Wilson at Atlanta-area Milton High School and has sent multiple players to Tennessee and other SEC programs over the past several years, said the Vols aren’t working any harder in the Atlanta area under Jones than they did under Dooley."

....Whaaaaaaaaaa? I find this extremely hard to believe but hey who knows. Maybe Dooley only threw himself onto a few schools and hung on for dear life. What are y'alls thoughts?

Tennessee Vols football recruiting: Georgia on Tennessee's Mind

thanks for the link.great read.

 

[RetardedElf]

Great response

 

[OldVol49vfl]

To me it just points out the fact that Dooley sucked at recruiting. Many state that he just didn't care about recruiting and I think that this proves that false...he just DID NOT GET IT. haha I can play 54 holes of golf everyday...but I ain't winning the Masters.

I've said it before and I'll repeat it here, Dooley will go down in history as a Tennessee coach and as a SEC coach. He may very well be at the top of his category. I know that Tennessee fans, including myself, will never forget him and what he did to (not for) the University.

 

[MADISONGAVOL]

Ran across this 247 article this morning and I read a sentence that floored me.....

"Howie DeCristofaro, who coaches Sapp and three-star 2015 guard Nick Wilson at Atlanta-area Milton High School and has sent multiple players to Tennessee and other SEC programs over the past several years, said the Vols aren’t working any harder in the Atlanta area under Jones than they did under Dooley."

....Whaaaaaaaaaa? I find this extremely hard to believe but hey who knows. Maybe Dooley only threw himself onto a few schools and hung on for dear life. What are y'alls thoughts?

Tennessee Vols football recruiting: Georgia on Tennessee's Mind[/QUOT


U didn't read far enough. I goes to say Dooley recruited 2nd tier players heavily that Uga Bama and uf didn't offer. Theirs your perspective to this quote. They were not elite players minus 3 or 4 players out of his tenure

 

[MADISONGAVOL]

Butch is recruiting top tier athletes from ga

 

[volboy81]

Dooley recruited GA & other states while completely ignoring Tennessee. He was under the impression that there was absolutely no talent here. Butch disagrees. Dooley was clueless & tried to recruit like his daddy did 40 years ago....it didn't work

 

[Montrell Hardy]

“But I will say that I think Coach Jones is doing a better job of recruiting the upper-tier kids rather than the second-tier kids, and he’s getting some of them. He and his staff are doing a great job.”

This is the key difference.....

X1000.

Butch and his staff work hard to land elite talent, not just in GA but all over including the state of Tennessee which Dooley not only largely ignored but damaged all kinds of relationships. Dooley and his staff working hard to land lower tier talent is not impressive at all.

It's a lot harder going after and landing the upper echelon kids that all the top programs want as opposed to kids who only have marginal schools as the competition for them.

 

[DarthGrim]

I can work really really hard at being a starting QB in the NFL, but I'll never succeed because in comparison to the real starting NFL QBs I suck.

Same thing goes for Fooley. A for effort doesn't mean much if you suck and he sucked.

 

[Vol Catdaddy]

He publicly made Georgia a priority when he was hired...no shock that he visibly put work in there...he just had tunnel vision and safe contacts in his home state and didn't branch out like you have to do at Tennessee...thus lack of overall success.

Exactly! I understand why he did it, but each recruiting cycle should be done on a case by case. One year you may get the best talent out of one area. And one year you may not, but there are variables to the situation. It's hard to get a young out of his region when, your not winning, your not his dream school, and when family wants the child close to home.