Interesting Oklahoma Perspective

[adam.vol]

I mean we do it on extra points all the time. I get your point it definitely effects play more when it’s in the middle of a drive. When we do it it’s to rest the defense; really think Heupel started doing this bc everyone else was doing it as well.

I have noticed that we use it regularly. I think part of it is Heupel mocking the rules committee because they obviously aren’t smart enough to figure out how to deal with it. They keep jacking with the clock rules, but I’ll be darned if they haven’t realized that they could shave half an hour from every game if they could figure out how to take “injuries” seriously enough to make the player sit out for 5-10 minutes.

 

[Danl]

We do the same thing, just saying.

No, we don't. The problem is with faking injuries DURING AN OFFENSIVE DRIVE. It let's the defense get a little rest and allows any and all substitutions by the defense. Without the fake injuries during an offensive drive, the defense would have to keep playing with whatever personnel they have on the field, regardless of which defenders are tired or what substitutions the defensive coach would like to make.

Faking an injury after the extra point doesn't effect the other team at all. Any and all personnel changes are going to take place before the next play (the kickoff) regardless of whether there is an injury on the extra point or not.

Big difference.

 

[vol94fan]

Bro we fake injuries on the extra point every time we score too fast.

Faking injuries on the extra point just buys a little time before the kick off. It does not affect the rhythm of the opposing offense and therefore seems a little more acceptable to me. I don't think we did it against the Sooners, but i had a few drinks and might have missed it.

 

[Hbg]

No, we don't. The problem is with faking injuries DURING AN OFFENSIVE DRIVE. It let's the defense get a little rest and allows any and all substitutions by the defense. Without the fake injuries during an offensive drive, the defense would have to keep playing with whatever personnel they have on the field, regardless of which defenders are tired or what substitutions the defensive coach would like to make.

Faking an injury after the extra point doesn't effect the other team at all. Any and all personnel changes are going to take place before the next play (the kickoff) regardless of whether there is an injury on the extra point or not.

Big difference.

So you’re saying we fake injuries?

 

[Sudden Impact]

The guys from the Schooner Pod said that we would have performed better offensively if the game wasn't in primetime.

They said their defense was gassed and all the commercial breaks really helped.

sounds like an oxymoron. Prime time game that gave us rest.

 

[volfanhill]

It also helped when they faked injuries.

The other reason they got tired was watching their offense be completely futile. Having a good to great offense AND defense is very rare. And they most definitely affect each other.

Did it help us when we faked injuries?

 

[volfanhill]

Yea I lost a lot of respect for Venables after that nonsense. I'm sure i'm the minority on this, but it just doesn't sit well with me when a coach deliberately coaches a kid to lie to gain an advantage.....in any form, but especially to fake an injury.

Lol. You must hate Josh

 

[BowlBrother85]

Did it help us when we faked injuries?

The only scenario in which I could see it gaining us an advantage, is if we are going for two. It's not a big deal, but I do wish we would knock it off.

 

[volfanhill]

The only scenario in which I could see it gaining us an advantage, is if we are going for two. It's not a big deal, but I do wish we would knock it off.

We do it for a reason. If it “wasn't a big deal” we wouldn't do it.

 

[Okie]

Yea I lost a lot of respect for Venables after that nonsense. I'm sure i'm the minority on this, but it just doesn't sit well with me when a coach deliberately coaches a kid to lie to gain an advantage.....in any form, but especially to fake an injury.

Just curious, where did you see that anyone was coached to do that?

 

[butchna]

Faking injuries on the extra point just buys a little time before the kick off. It does not affect the rhythm of the opposing offense and therefore seems a little more acceptable to me. I don't think we did it against the Sooners, but i had a few drinks and might have missed it.

Vysen Lang did it after the first TD. Told my wife and the two Sooner fans sitting next to her to look for it. They didn’t do it for the final TD.

 

[chuckiepoo]

We do the same thing, just saying.

Thank you for mentioning that. We’ve even got a designated PAT injury player on scholarship. Formal theatrical training a prerequisite. Heard he’s Dundee’s nephew…

 

[chuckiepoo]

I mean we do it on extra points all the time. I get your point it definitely effects play more when it’s in the middle of a drive. When we do it it’s to rest the defense; really think Heupel started doing this bc everyone else was doing it as well.

Before or after French’s Mustard Bowl?

 

[chuckiepoo]

I have noticed that we use it regularly. I think part of it is Heupel mocking the rules committee because they obviously aren’t smart enough to figure out how to deal with it. They keep jacking with the clock rules, but I’ll be darned if they haven’t realized that they could shave half an hour from every game if they could figure out how to take “injuries” seriously enough to make the player sit out for 5-10 minutes.

And relinquish all that commercial time? Fat chance.

 

[chuckiepoo]

No, we don't. The problem is with faking injuries DURING AN OFFENSIVE DRIVE. It let's the defense get a little rest and allows any and all substitutions by the defense. Without the fake injuries during an offensive drive, the defense would have to keep playing with whatever personnel they have on the field, regardless of which defenders are tired or what substitutions the defensive coach would like to make.

Faking an injury after the extra point doesn't effect the other team at all. Any and all personnel changes are going to take place before the next play (the kickoff) regardless of whether there is an injury on the extra point or not.

Big difference.

Hmm. We haven’t really needed to…yet. Seems we may have used the in game tactic, too. Not this year for sure, but last year and before?

 

[adam.vol]

And relinquish all that commercial time? Fat chance.

Often they don’t even bother to show a commercial. They can’t create a demand for airtime if they broadcast too many ads.

“How much is a halftime slot?”
- That’s our most expensive time slot
“How about every 4th injury timeout?”
- Deal

[Turns to his buddy] “Lane Kiffin is coming to town and last time it was 34 injury timeouts $$$”.

 

[Carp]

I also noticed a lot of slipping on the grass for both teams. Not a good field for a big program.

Offensively challenged teams going up against offensive juggernauts have been known to alter the field to their advantage.

I am not saying that for sure happened here, but Norman, OK has not seen any rain whatsoever in the previous 30 days before the game. It seems pretty odd that the field would be in that sort of condition without someone overwatering it.

 

[Casual Mustard Yeeter]

It won’t be long before there are more commercials than football. Takes a lot of the fun away for the viewer.

Legit question: when do we boycott for the long term health of the sport? I would miss football and I don't know if enough people would participate to make it meaningful, but it's already getting borderline unwatchable in some cases.

 

[Casual Mustard Yeeter]

Offensively challenged teams going up against offensive juggernauts have been known to alter the field to their advantage.

I am not saying that for sure happened here, but Norman, OK has not seen any rain whatsoever in the previous 30 days before the game. It seems pretty odd that the field would be in that sort of condition without someone overwatering it.

The sooner dude on here kept swearing it was army worms, but I could not locate a single source that put an infestation on their field.

 

[Carp]

Did it help us when we faked injuries?

It doesn't help us nearly as much as it helps other teams by getting correct personnel in the game. A big part of what makes our offense so dangerous is that by playing so fast, we can exploit other teams personnel mismatches.

An example is a run stuffing LB who normally gets rotated out on passing downs is now forced to either blitz or try to defend a WR/RB/TE. Our offense sees that and exploits those mismatches, usually resulting in large chunk plays. And certainly if the defense is sucking air, playing quick exploits that as well. A fake injury completely disrupts our offense.


An injury after a FG gives us about 2 minutes of extra rest, but otherwise it gives us no other advantage. If you can't see the difference then you are blind.

 

[Ned Ray McWorkher]

It won’t be long before there are more commercials than football. Takes a lot of the fun away for the viewer.

Not when you dvr the game and start watching it about an hour or so later. You can right on through the commercials and halftime too.

 

[volbound1700]

To be fair to Sooner fan, Tennessee's offense disappointed a little on first couple of drives. However, it seems like a great offense that just didn't play well.

Oklahoma will win more than 6 games IMO. I do think OU got screwed and Texas got the cake. Texas has all 3 of the historically worse SEC programs: Vandy, Miss State, and Kentucky on their schedule and only 2 of the historic powers (Georgia and Florida). Florida being down hard makes Texas' schedule a lot easier.

 

[Shirleyudontmeanthat]

I think Oklahoma wins pretty soundly. Even though I don't think Hawkins was that great, they will be more confident offensively with him. Auburn's D isn't that great and I think Oklahoma has a good defense. I think Oklahoma shuts them down and scores ~20-30 points to win a 30-7 or something like that type of game.

Yeah don’t see it at all … if that happens Freeze seat is very very warm.

 

[Volnanza]

It won’t be long before there are more commercials than football. Takes a lot of the fun away for the viewer.

Yeah. We all saw how they wanted to "shorten the games" so they changed the clock rules. The end result...games last just as long by the clock, less football but there is more time for commercials. Follow the $$$

 

[JBVolunteer]

When Herbstreit calls you pathetic, it’s bad. He would prefer everyone to love the game as much as he.

Herbstreit was absolutely on point with his criticism. There has to be a new rule created to force teams to stop flopping.

If a player delays the game after a supposed injury; they have to go through full evaluation and are ineligible to return to the field for at minimum 30 minutes.