Interracial Couple Refused Marriage License

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I think it depends on what level you define natural attraction to "like people." Is it college grads attracted to college grads? White to white? Or just human to human?
 
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BigPapaVol said:
No argument.

I'm just saying those comfortable with the different are likely to remain relatively stable as a % of the population. It will change some, but not drastically.

I just don't have enormous faith in people after having traveled a lot.

Those staring at the gay couple suck, but they arent going away. People will always suck too, no pun intended.
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I agree completely. People literally kill themselves worrying about things that have nothing to do with them and has no effect what-so-ever on whether they get to eat another meal or not.
 
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getyopopcornready said:
I see what you're saying, most of the older white men in America absolutely HATE to see a black man with a somewhat attractive white woman. But me and my wife have been to 5 different states in the past 2.5 years across America and I've never seen anyone our age (23) look at us with the hate that I see some older white men look at us. I think once that older population dies off then there will be a more general acceptance of interracial dating.
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even in LA you'd probably get a second look. i'm not sure it's hate though.
 
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droski said:
even in LA you'd probably get a second look. i'm not sure it's hate though.
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Yea I know. I'm not talking about second looks though. I'm talking about the look of you are looking at your 15 year old duaghter holding hands with OJ Simpson type look
 
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lawgator1 said:
I think it depends on what level you define natural attraction to "like people." Is it college grads attracted to college grads? White to white? Or just human to human?
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The point is does it matter? Why would someone think they have the right to control whether or not an interracial couple can get a marriage license or not? That guy should be shot in the head
 
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TXVOL07 said:
yup
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interesting how that ad and the interracialdating.com ad both have a white guy with a black woman. i'm not sure what to read into that. edit: one of the other ads is different. glad to see it. it woudl be sad if even an interracial dating site thought it was taboo for a black man to date a white woman.
 
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droski said:
as a public employee the guy should be fired.
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No doubt. But just the thought that someone believes just because they believe in something different that they can control whether or not they can get a marriage license is what bothers me. How in the world would it affect him if their kids have to go through anything?
 
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getyopopcornready said:
No doubt. But just the thought that someone believes just because they believe in something different that they can control whether or not they can get a marriage license is what bothers me. How in the world would it affect him if their kids have to go through anything?
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His moral superiority could have stopped their suffering?
 
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lawgator1 said:
I think it depends on what level you define natural attraction to "like people." Is it college grads attracted to college grads? White to white? Or just human to human?
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Don't be dense. It's different for different people. Often it's similar tastes and backgrounds.
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getyopopcornready said:
No doubt. But just the thought that someone believes just because they believe in something different that they can control whether or not they can get a marriage license is what bothers me. How in the world would it affect him if their kids have to go through anything?
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the fact that he got away with it before now is what bothers me. idiots exist everywhere, but the fact this guy hasn't been fired well before now is disturbing.
 
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TXVOL07 said:
"Shot in the head"

Dude, really?
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Yea, I feel people who relentlessly worry about things they can't control to the point where it affects others should be done away with... I also feel the same way about criminals.. I feel they should be killed, raped, tortured the same way the treated their victim.. That would reduce crime rates drastically
 
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getyopopcornready said:
The point is does it matter? Why would someone think they have the right to control whether or not an interracial couple can get a marriage license or not? That guy should be shot in the head
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You misunderstand. I'm not saying he's right -- I'm saying that people excusing it away on some sort of "we are attracted to x, but not y" kind of thing is just silly.

Now, 30 or 40 years ago it was that much more taboo, and so got even more stares than it does today. But, even now, people think they have some input into other people's relationships and that's just idiotic given everything else we have to worry about.

I go out with my friend Sharona occassionaly. I am as WASPy as you can get, she's from Trinidad, very ethnic appearance, dark skinned, attirbutes a lot of her heritage to India. People glance at us all the time, and some I am pretty sure make some comments to each other.

Now, thing is, I don't believe I have EVER sense that any of them were critical of us. Its usually just curiosity, I think. And also the fact that I'm a 45 year old pretty much fuddy duddy and she's smokin hot and 31. LOL



droski said:
as a public employee the guy should be fired.
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getyopopcornready said:
No doubt. But just the thought that someone believes just because they believe in something different that they can control whether or not they can get a marriage license is what bothers me. How in the world would it affect him if their kids have to go through anything?
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Dude, he's lying. He doesn't give a rat's azz about their theoretical kids. He did what he did because he was personally offended by it. Guarantee 1950's reruns on Nick at Nite are his favorite pastime.
 
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Peoples perceptions of interracial dating and relationships isn't just a problem in the south. Go to any northern state outside of the larger cities where it is less common to see interracial relationships and you will get those same looks. Same is true just about all over America.

My grandparents grew up in the deep south, I am almost positive they were conditioned to be prejudiced because of the era they grew up in. I was engaged to a Laotian girl I dated all throughout high school. I could tell they weren't happy with my decision even though they never said anything to me directly. It wasn't long before they got to know her better and actually grew to like her, their opinions changed because they were exposed to her and got to know her as a person. Things change when you get to know individuals of other races as people, not the stereotype you attribute to them.
 
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KB5252 said:
Peoples perceptions of interracial dating and relationships isn't just a problem in the south. Go to any northern state outside of the larger cities where it is less common to see interracial relationships and you will get those same looks. Same is true just about all over America.

My grandparents grew up in the deep south, I am almost positive they were conditioned to be prejudiced because of the era they grew up in. I was engaged to a Laotian girl I dated all throughout high school. I could tell they weren't happy with my decision even though they never said anything to me directly. It wasn't long before they got to know her better and actually grew to like her, their opinions changed because they were exposed to her and got to know her as a person. Things change when you get to know individuals of other races as people, not the stereotype you attribute to them.
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Who are you and what did you do to KB252?
 
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lawgator1 said:
You misunderstand. I'm not saying he's right -- I'm saying that people excusing it away on some sort of "we are attracted to x, but not y" kind of thing is just silly.

Now, 30 or 40 years ago it was that much more taboo, and so got even more stares than it does today. But, even now, people think they have some input into other people's relationships and that's just idiotic given everything else we have to worry about.

I go out with my friend Sharona occassionaly. I am as WASPy as you can get, she's from Trinidad, very ethnic appearance, dark skinned, attirbutes a lot of her heritage to India. People glance at us all the time, and some I am pretty sure make some comments to each other.

Now, thing is, I don't believe I have EVER sense that any of them were critical of us. Its usually just curiosity, I think. And also the fact that I'm a 45 year old pretty much fuddy duddy and she's smokin hot and 31. LOL








Dude, he's lying. He doesn't give a rat's azz about their theoretical kids. He did what he did because he was personally offended by it. Guarantee 1950's reruns on Nick at Nite are his favorite pastime.
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I'm not excusing dick. I am talking about human nature. If you can't grasp that, leave the subject alone save for all your righteous indignation over it. Throw up a few "can you believe this" comments and just move on. At the heart of racism is uneducation and human nature. The uneducation stems from our nature too.

Pointing fingers at te problem won't help it. Understanding it might. Rarely is it a hatred issue. For those folks, it's hopeless. For those acting on instinct, there is hope, but both sides have to understand it.
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BigPapaVol said:
I'm not excusing dick. I am talking about human nature. If you can't grasp that, leave the subject alone save for all your righteous indignation over it. Throw up a few "can you believe this" comments and just move on. At the heart of racism is uneducation and human nature. The uneducation stems from our nature too.
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No need to get your back up there, Frances.

Let me ask you this, if its "more natural" for whites to be attracted to whites and black people to black people, then why do you also say that it changes with your understanding of the other race? And, if it is a matter of "nature," then how do you explain the apparent increase in interracial relationships over just a matter of decades?

I don't think its an issue of nature as much as it is a function of overcoming societal pressures and taboos, don't you?
 
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I was expecting to see a set of VN regulars emphatically supporting the justice in this case. I'm really disappointed in this thread.
 
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droski said:
the fact that he got away with it before now is what bothers me. idiots exist everywhere, but the fact this guy hasn't been fired well before now is disturbing.
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That is disturbing. The other disturbing part is, he feels so strongly about preventing interracial couples to get married because of how it would affect the kids.. But let's say they slipped up and had a kid unmarried.. Would he be there to support the kid when it goes through tough times and provide food, shelter, clothing, and healthcare needed? Will he be there to consult the kid everytime they come home from school crying because they don't feel they "fit in"?
 
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